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Reply #30 posted 04/21/21 5:42am

fredmagnus

JorisE73 said:

fredmagnus said:

1 - BATMAN SDE including all the sessions from Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

2 - DIRTY MIND SDE

3 - CONTROVERSY SDE

4 - THE TIME ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

5 - SHEILA E ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

6 - COMPILATION OF OUTAKES FROM THE 2000'S

Not necessarly in this particular order.

[Edited 4/20/21 6:42am]


I woiuld love to get all the protege remasters with outtakes and Prince's versions on them.
For Batman, I think this one is one of the soundtracks/albums that WB still has the roghts to so I don't think The Estate would give them Rave to add to it when they have the rights to that and could easily press it up and release it without WB interfering.
They could add some of those Anna Fantasic recordings to the Batman SDE maybe.

The Estate would be able to release a proper Batman SDE under WB licensing with all the Rave sessions if they want to add them just because SONY doesn't own the Vault content. They just have the licensing rights for most of the albums (except the WB soundtracks of course).

If they go and release a Batman SDE, they will follow the same path as with 1999/SOTT so they will surely include everything they can from the release of Lovesexy to the release of Batman.

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Reply #31 posted 04/21/21 7:03am

Vannormal

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JorisE73 said:

rap said:

If I want shit from you, I'll squeeze your head.


He's still right tho.

Anyway, a complete 'First Avenue' boxset CD/BluRay is what I want with every single performance he did there (even those 15 minutes sets like the 'Girls and Boys/HollyRock' jam he did there with Sheila E.)
Proper SDE's every 6 months start9ing with For You and continue chronologically from there.
Utilize 'Record Store Day' with releasing the unreleased albums like Katrina's Paper Dolls, Camille, Dream Factory, Crystal Ball, Rave unto the Joy Fantastic etc. All with liner notes from only relevant people who were there.

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I agree with you.

Besides your propsal for RSD releases, they can also provide every three mnths a download. Like a previous assembled idea for a known album, or a live show in pristine audio, unreleased albums for protegeés, etc. There is just so much they can provide us.

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #32 posted 04/21/21 7:47am

Vannormal

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https://www.stltoday.com/...c5fbe.html

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #33 posted 04/21/21 7:50am

Vannormal

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lustmealways said:

here's what i want, in no order

dirty mind/controversy sde's. i don't wanna hear it from anyone about how "there's not enough material" or that they should "bundle the two together" because we both know that's horseshit. second coming, which was woefully incomplete btw, would be excellent with the controversy sde only for that delicious shot-in-film footage

i want whatever's left outtakes wise from 93-95, but i don't trust the estate to handle it properly and with the nuance it requires. it would be futile to attempt a standalone come or tge sde, this era is one they will surely struggle with unless they wise up overnight.

similarly, the early graffiti bridge period is one i don't trust the estate to handle well, but if it were done correctly it would yield a revelatory and one of a kind archival release... this weaves in and out with rave 89' thus complicating things further.

my request is no more bullshit one-off albums (to clarify, i'm speaking on things like piano and mic and originals... stuff like W2A is a-ok with me cause it's the real deal), no more half assing deluxe packages, and change your view of what an archival releases could and should be. take notes from dylan's team, and by that i don't mean release everything, but rather consider what you're releasing and adjust contents accordingly. the guy is gone, this is for the benefit of the scholars and music listening public, spinning everything into some masterpiece and elaborately constructed narrative to sell people hype is doing the music a disservice and actively hindering actual deep dives into his work, of which we should've gotten several by now.

word.

[Edited 4/19/21 22:33pm]

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First : I don't.

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Second : I agree?

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word

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #34 posted 04/21/21 7:59am

fortuneandsere
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fredmagnus said:

JorisE73 said:


I woiuld love to get all the protege remasters with outtakes and Prince's versions on them.
For Batman, I think this one is one of the soundtracks/albums that WB still has the roghts to so I don't think The Estate would give them Rave to add to it when they have the rights to that and could easily press it up and release it without WB interfering.
They could add some of those Anna Fantasic recordings to the Batman SDE maybe.

The Estate would be able to release a proper Batman SDE under WB licensing with all the Rave sessions if they want to add them just because SONY doesn't own the Vault content. They just have the licensing rights for most of the albums (except the WB soundtracks of course).

If they go and release a Batman SDE, they will follow the same path as with 1999/SOTT so they will surely include everything they can from the release of Lovesexy to the release of Batman.


Well, what's interesting is that the upcoming Welcome 2 America album is the first new material to be released by SONY. Whether it has 'legacy' tagged on the end or not. The original Rave stuff dates back to 87-89. My best guess is if this were released tomorrow, Warners would have the rights, not Sony.

Basically the dividing line is, music released before 95 will come under Warners. Anything recorded from '95 onwards will be Sony's remit. If I'm misreading and Warners actually have rights to post-95 stuff, that wouldn't explain how Sony come to be releasing this new 'old' album.

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Reply #35 posted 04/21/21 5:56pm

rap

leecaldon said:

-Piano & a Microphone Gala Event - 1 show on CD, 1 show on Bluray (or both)

-21 Nights in London - some huge boxset of CDs/Blurays from a selection of shows and aftershows

-Xenophobia - can't recall whether it was filmed, but a CD boxet of the week would be incredible

-3121 movie

-Black is the New Black

[Edited 4/21/21 3:19am]

They are both available online.

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Reply #36 posted 04/21/21 6:10pm

heartpeaceshea
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this feels like a time warp
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Reply #37 posted 04/21/21 6:27pm

jfenster

Problem is estate needs Howe..tudahl...and one listener who's been around long enough to know what's good and what's available. This person can make the other 2 see what to release
[Edited 4/22/21 4:45am]
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Reply #38 posted 04/21/21 11:39pm

Phase3

rap said:



leecaldon said:


-Piano & a Microphone Gala Event - 1 show on CD, 1 show on Bluray (or both)



-21 Nights in London - some huge boxset of CDs/Blurays from a selection of shows and aftershows



-Xenophobia - can't recall whether it was filmed, but a CD boxet of the week would be incredible



-3121 movie



-Black is the New Black




[Edited 4/21/21 3:19am]




They are both available online.


It isn't pro shot
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Reply #39 posted 04/22/21 3:52am

leecaldon

rap said:

leecaldon said:

-Piano & a Microphone Gala Event - 1 show on CD, 1 show on Bluray (or both)

-21 Nights in London - some huge boxset of CDs/Blurays from a selection of shows and aftershows

-Xenophobia - can't recall whether it was filmed, but a CD boxet of the week would be incredible

-3121 movie

-Black is the New Black

[Edited 4/21/21 3:19am]

They are both available online.

The quality is far from great, and I'm unaware of any video footage?

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Reply #40 posted 04/22/21 5:11am

vainandy

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Dirty Mind Super Deluxe

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Controversy Super Deluxe

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The follow-up album to 1999 he said he recorded and could have released instead of Around The World In A Day and everyone would have gone "yeah" but he didn't.

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First Avenue Live 1983 DVD

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Prince (1979) Super Deluxe

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The Second Coming DVD

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Any full unreleased albums from the period of 1978 to 1984. He said he had full unreleased albums from the 1980s in the vault.

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Around The World In A Day Super Deluxe

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Parade Super Deluxe

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Lovesexy Super Deluxe

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The Black Album Super Deluxe

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Unreleased projects from The Time, Vanity 6, and Apollonia 6.

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Don't get into the 1990s until every last thing from the previous years has been released.

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Anything from the 2000s and later can be released years after I'm dead and gone.

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #41 posted 04/22/21 7:38am

Vannormal

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vainandy said:

Dirty Mind Super Deluxe

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Controversy Super Deluxe

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The follow-up album to 1999 he said he recorded and could have released instead of Around The World In A Day and everyone would have gone "yeah" but he didn't.

.

First Avenue Live 1983 DVD

.

Prince (1979) Super Deluxe

.

The Second Coming DVD

.

Any full unreleased albums from the period of 1978 to 1984. He said he had full unreleased albums from the 1980s in the vault.

.

Around The World In A Day Super Deluxe

.

Parade Super Deluxe

.

Lovesexy Super Deluxe

.

The Black Album Super Deluxe

.

Unreleased projects from The Time, Vanity 6, and Apollonia 6.

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Don't get into the 1990s until every last thing from the previous years has been released.

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Anything from the 2000s and later can be released years after I'm dead and gone.

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Agree. biggrin

Add a huge DVD box of the Purple Rain highlight years from the development ideas and shooting the movie in 1983, up to the tour finale in 1985.

Something like a movie box +every note of music played/performed in that era would just be fucking awesome !

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #42 posted 04/22/21 8:03am

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More DVD concert/show performances

sitting on iconic shows makes no, sinse those would be money makers

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
That's what U want, TRANSCENDENCE. When that happens, O Boy -Prince 2015
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Reply #43 posted 04/23/21 12:21am

Dimitri10

OldFriends4Sale said:

More DVD concert/show performances

sitting on iconic shows makes no, sense those would be money makers

Agree 100%, we need more DVD's released, so many great shows.

"Prince don't know how many hits he got"
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Reply #44 posted 04/23/21 4:59am

JorisE73

fredmagnus said:

JorisE73 said:


I woiuld love to get all the protege remasters with outtakes and Prince's versions on them.
For Batman, I think this one is one of the soundtracks/albums that WB still has the roghts to so I don't think The Estate would give them Rave to add to it when they have the rights to that and could easily press it up and release it without WB interfering.
They could add some of those Anna Fantasic recordings to the Batman SDE maybe.

The Estate would be able to release a proper Batman SDE under WB licensing with all the Rave sessions if they want to add them just because SONY doesn't own the Vault content. They just have the licensing rights for most of the albums (except the WB soundtracks of course).

If they go and release a Batman SDE, they will follow the same path as with 1999/SOTT so they will surely include everything they can from the release of Lovesexy to the release of Batman.


I think it would be cool to do a seperate Rave.. album release with alternate takes, outtakes and demo's and everything. Treat it like a seperate aborted release like they are doing it with Welcome 2 America.

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Reply #45 posted 04/23/21 5:37am

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I would like them to tell us how things are going. Have they been through all the audio yet? What about all the video? What is the plan for upcoming special editions? Let us know what will be coming for the next few years. I feel like we just get the usual " we have found some great stuff but can't talk about it"

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Reply #46 posted 04/23/21 9:54pm

SoulAlive

How about a big,multi-disc Paisley Park Records box set that includes remastered CDs from the likes of The Time,Mazarati,The Family,Sheila E.,Jill Jones,Madhouse,Apollonia 6 and others?

Include a bonus DVD with all the music videos from these artists.
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Reply #47 posted 04/28/21 2:46pm

rafael

dm3857 said:

soladeo1 said:

1. Piano & Microphone: The Final Shows. 6 shows - the Atlanta shows, the New Zealand shows, and the Oakland shows - Including high-rez video of the performances.



2. Dirty Mind: Super Deluxe.



3. A subsciption service for montly/weekly re-mastered releases of concerts/rehearsals/aftershows, etc. In concert with this, allowing subscribers to order limited edition vinyl of the shows and performances with exclusive artwork.



I know all the shows were recorded, but do we know if they were all filmed ? The only P&M I show I’ve heard that were filmed were the 2 Paisley Park shows? Does anyone have any info on other shows filmed ?

I am pretty sure all piano shows were filmed although i dont think the do prince right 😔
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Reply #48 posted 04/28/21 5:06pm

fortuneandsere
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I'd like to see an estimate of number of songs recorded per year, and the names of albums that P recorded, intended for future release.



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Reply #49 posted 04/28/21 6:21pm

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Everything prince recorded from 1977-1990...every scrap....after that I don't know. Lots of mediocre stuff has been released since then...LOTS. That said Prince has fans from every era so I guess give the old schools fans something followed by the newer school and repeat until we all die.

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Reply #50 posted 04/28/21 7:46pm

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homesquid said:

Everything prince recorded from 1977-1990...every scrap....after that I don't know. Lots of mediocre stuff has been released since then...LOTS. That said Prince has fans from every era so I guess give the old schools fans something followed by the newer school and repeat until we all die.


That mirrors the great run of albums he had, through 1977-1990 period. Well actually For You should have been a 10, rather than 8/10, going off the vault songs I've heard from that era. Only one song on Graffiti Bridge - an album underestimated by people with inferior taste - was recorded subsequent to 1989. Including the Sign Deluxe comp, I can identify 4 brilliant vault albums just from the late 80s.

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Reply #51 posted 04/29/21 8:53am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

homesquid said:

Everything prince recorded from 1977-1990...every scrap....after that I don't know. Lots of mediocre stuff has been released since then...LOTS. That said Prince has fans from every era so I guess give the old schools fans something followed by the newer school and repeat until we all die.


That mirrors the great run of albums he had, through 1977-1990 period. Well actually For You should have been a 10, rather than 8/10, going off the vault songs I've heard from that era. Only one song on Graffiti Bridge - an album underestimated by people with inferior taste - was recorded subsequent to 1989. Including the Sign Deluxe comp, I can identify 4 brilliant vault albums just from the late 80s.

Everything that is special about Prince as as an artist and songwriter is found in the 1977-1990 era- in fac I woukld extend it through 1993. Honestly, he fell off hard soon after. Starting chasing trends, releasing too much music, acting like petulant, entitled. trulent prick but, sure, there's lots of great music and more to come post 1993.

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Reply #52 posted 04/29/21 11:40am

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This is the most important thread this site has ever posted.
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Reply #53 posted 04/29/21 5:11pm

jfenster

Need a permanent sticky so we can ask for what we want and inform estate what shows etc he's done
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Reply #54 posted 04/30/21 9:49am

JorisE73

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Need a permanent sticky so we can ask for what we want and inform estate what shows etc he's done


Bigger fish have tried this without any results.
They don't care about the fans just there wallets becaise they know most of us will give them money for whatever lie they try to sell us.
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Reply #55 posted 05/01/21 1:58pm

esben

It would be an absolute delight to have a streaming/download service that focuses on the incredible amount of live shows, rehearsals and aftershows Prince performed.

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Reply #56 posted 05/05/21 8:50pm

Graycap23

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The unreleased and the outtakes.

They can keep the stuff we already own unless it requires a remaster due 2 quality.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #57 posted 05/06/21 10:51am

heartpeaceshea
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We want to see serious efforts and advocacy for nominations of Prince related and Associated artists in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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Reply #58 posted 05/06/21 4:22pm

PennyPurple

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heartpeacesheart said:

We want to see serious efforts and advocacy for nominations of Prince related and Associated artists in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Prince, of course. Assocaited artists no way.

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Reply #59 posted 05/06/21 4:34pm

lustmealways

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lustmealways said:

here's what i want, in no order

dirty mind/controversy sde's. i don't wanna hear it from anyone about how "there's not enough material" or that they should "bundle the two together" because we both know that's horseshit. second coming, which was woefully incomplete btw, would be excellent with the controversy sde only for that delicious shot-in-film footage

i want whatever's left outtakes wise from 93-95, but i don't trust the estate to handle it properly and with the nuance it requires. it would be futile to attempt a standalone come or tge sde, this era is one they will surely struggle with unless they wise up overnight.

similarly, the early graffiti bridge period is one i don't trust the estate to handle well, but if it were done correctly it would yield a revelatory and one of a kind archival release... this weaves in and out with rave 89' thus complicating things further.

my request is no more bullshit one-off albums (to clarify, i'm speaking on things like piano and mic and originals... stuff like W2A is a-ok with me cause it's the real deal), no more half assing deluxe packages, and change your view of what an archival releases could and should be. take notes from dylan's team, and by that i don't mean release everything, but rather consider what you're releasing and adjust contents accordingly. the guy is gone, this is for the benefit of the scholars and music listening public, spinning everything into some masterpiece and elaborately constructed narrative to sell people hype is doing the music a disservice and actively hindering actual deep dives into his work, of which we should've gotten several by now.

word.

did i say all this? what i really want is more makeup

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