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I Would Die 4 U evolution 1982-1984
So I'm listening to a 1999 tour rehearsal of I Would Die 4 U, it almost feels like Stand Back, that driving vibe . crazy 1999esque guitar solo by Dez Dickerson The extatic keyboard part Dr Fink did, sounds like it's being done here by either guitar or bass(keyboards) or both. more 'celestial' Caribbean keyboard melodies, that crisp 1999 kick drum Dr Fink or Lisa is playing some cool cords that I cannot capture what the song is, but it sounds like something from Dirty Mind or Prince Some of the lyrics are there, some not . I love how certain songs take on a specific era sound | |
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1982 Civic Auditorium Sound Check I Would Die 4 U rehearsal At first he wanted me to play the bassline on "I Would Die 4 U" manually. So we tried it during rehearsal first, which I could pull it off, but it was not easy. And sometimes I would get off rhythm a little bit because you had to be so spot on, and you had to play it with two hands! So Prince says, "Well, Matt, why can't you play it with one hand and play the chords with the other hand?" And I said, "You try it." But neither one of us could do it. So I told Prince, "I got an idea. Let's try to sequence this one." Unfortunately, nothing in our arsenal could sequence it properly, so we created a way to put that bassline part in the sequencer and then have it lock up to the Linn drum machine with MIDI. But the Linn drum didn't have MIDI so Prince's tech guy created a MIDI interface for it. So I would have the sequencer ready to go during the live show and then all Bobby Z would have to do is hit the play button. We did some groundbreaking technological things that day.
-Dr Fink . 1983 August 3rd @ First Avenue recorded live . 1984 Purple Rain album release . 1984 Purple Rain tour live version recorded for the single release | |
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That 82 or 83 rehearsal of Raspberry Beret has got a similar breezy vibe going on, it's a really lovely take on the song. It's the kind of thing War on Drugs are going for now. | |
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1982 Civic Auditorium Sound Check I Would Die 4 U rehearsal At first he wanted me to play the bassline on "I Would Die 4 U" manually. So we tried it during rehearsal first, which I could pull it off, but it was not easy. And sometimes I would get off rhythm a little bit because you had to be so spot on, and you had to play it with two hands! So Prince says, "Well, Matt, why can't you play it with one hand and play the chords with the other hand?" And I said, "You try it." But neither one of us could do it. So I told Prince, "I got an idea. Let's try to sequence this one." Unfortunately, nothing in our arsenal could sequence it properly, so we created a way to put that bassline part in the sequencer and then have it lock up to the Linn drum machine with MIDI. But the Linn drum didn't have MIDI so Prince's tech guy created a MIDI interface for it. So I would have the sequencer ready to go during the live show and then all Bobby Z would have to do is hit the play button. We did some groundbreaking technological things that day.
-Dr Fink
1983 August 3rd @ First Avenue recorded live
1984 Purple Rain album release
1984 Purple Rain tour live version recorded for the single release | |
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I can create a Raspberry Beret evolution thread. I just want to focus on IWD4U here | |
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I'm not a woman I'll never beat you
I'll never lie And if you're evil I'll forgive you by and by 'Cause you, I would die for you, yeah
Darling if you want me to You, I would die for you I'm not your lover
I'm not your friend I am something that you'll never comprehend No need to worry
No need to cry I'm your messiah and you're the reason why 'Cause you, I would die for you, yeah
Darling if you want me to You, I would die for you You're just a sinner I am told
Be your fire when you're cold Make you happy when you're sad Make you good when you are bad I'm not a human
I am a dove I'm your conscious I am love All I really need is to know that You believe Yeah, I would die for you, yeah
Darling if you want me to You, I would die for you Yeah, say one more time
You, I would die for you
Darling if you want me to You, I would die for you Two, three, four you I would die for you
I would die for you You, I would die for you You, I would die for you Alternate versionsThe extended version of "I Would Die 4 U" is actually a rehearsal jam on the song with The Revolution and musicians from Sheila E.'s band, Eddie M (on sax) and Miko Weaver (guitar), along with Sheila E. herself ; This version was recorded sometime before the Purple Rain Tour. The jam features some overdubbing and fades at the end; a longer version, nearly 31 minutes long, was never released officially, but has been bootlegged. The extended mix was also used as the B-side of the 1989 "Erotic City" single (the artwork of which features the same image of Prince that was used for this single's cover).
Rehearsal Recording
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Let's talk about that 31-minute version. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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I love how there's no point in that story where they consider the second synth or that Prince could also play synths for it.
It's so interesting to hear Dez on these tracks he never got credit for (sort of) contributing to. He doesn't totally fit, so him moving on was best for the music, but then you can still hear it in Prince's own solos. Hard to say if Prince was influenced, or Dez was just doing things Prince instructed, but it seems like he style helped shape Computer Blue, Purple Rain, and Let's Go Crazy. Prince is using touches of what Dez did. We wouldn't know that without these recordings. | |
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“The extended version of "I Would Die 4 U" is actually a rehearsal jam on the song with The Revolution and musicians from Sheila E.'s band...” This was a rehearsal at the Minneapolis Auditorium on 25th October 1984 - it’s on Prince Vault site and Duane’s First book. There may or may not be something coming! | |
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“So I'm listening to a 1999 tour rehearsal of I Would Die 4 U, it almost feels like Stand Back...”
This was a soundcheck on 15 February 1982 at the San Francisco Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, CA, USA, during a Controversy Tour show, again according to Prince Vault (and the bootleg details). I’d love to hear more of the soundchecks on this tour, and see if there are any other earlier versions of other songs (my holy grail would be Controversy Tour soundcheck/demo in late Feb ‘82 with a version of 1999, if one exists). [Edited 4/13/21 13:19pm] There may or may not be something coming! | |
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TrivialPursuit said: Let's talk about that 31-minute version
As I recall the tape ran out while they were recording the rehearsal (31 minute version) I wonder how long they were jamming and how the song ended. [Edited 4/13/21 16:03pm] I will take my place, In the great below | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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TrivialPursuit said:
Goid catch, you are right. I just looked up princevault.com. It was America where the tape ran out 👍 I will take my place, In the great below | |
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Such a great rendition, I think I actually prefer it what was eventually released. The chugging guitar and the keys are sublime. Hundalasiliah! | |
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I remember the 1st time I heard it, of course I was excited, but after, it wasn't something I revisited(maybe it's because I had so many others I needed to hear). But then maybe 7 yrs ago I 'put the needle down' again and fell in love. It was just not long enough . Great expression of the 31min version | |
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. I really like the atonal guitar solo! . | |
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I definitely think Dez's sound influenced Prince's more mainstream rock direction. Until I find the righteous one... | |
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