Sorry this is a Random post because Im watching The Graham Norton show And watching the group Steps perform. And then I watch an advert promoting Bloody westlife doing wembley Stadium in the summer! And I just got sad wishing that Prince was still alive and doing his thing. Even if i didnt always agree with what he was doing! Instead you have got goddamn awful groups to watch. Yes I know I dont have to watch em and i try not too! It just kinda hit me all of a sudden the big void he has left behind. At least to me anyhow. Anybody else on here get the same feelings from time to time? I think I need a new Prince fix!

I miss him as well. I was watching Morris Day's story recently on Unsung, and of course Prince was mentioned and shown, and it just brought back so many memories of those times gone by. I loved seeing Morris, he still looks great, and is still as funny as ever.

There has always been and there will always be bad music/bands/artists. Actually, that's true for pretty much anything in life, not only for music.

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Fortunately, you can listen to good music whenever you want. That's the magic of recorded music.

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But I'm with you: I also miss Prince.

I really miss Prince, but I'm extremely grateful for all the memories and the audio and video footage that exists. For me, almost everything being done around/about P is a blessing at this point, since he's no longer in our dimension. I love seeing people talk about him and watching old footage, etc. He's still around that way. I get so excited when I experience something "new" from P; the love and gratitude I have for the man overwhelm me all over again. I really do feel like he is a part of my family on a soul level, even though I didn't know him personally.

I'm so in debt to people like Jill Jones, Marylou Badeaux, Susan Rogers, and others for coming on my podcast and sharing glimpses with me of the man he was beyond his rock star persona. Prince, I love you SO much. Thank you for everything, from the bottom of my heart.

He sure as shit left a giant void when he died and I've never filled it. I'm hard pressed to find a musician that can/could do so many things so well and who lived his life so stylistically unique. He was a generational talent for sure who's spawned a ton of imitators but no one I can think of has all of his chops in so many areas.

From producing, song writing, musicianship, showmanship, fashion and just being a singularly unique person and artist who lived his life exactly how he wanted to, I'm hard pressed to think of someone that can fill his tiny high heeled shoes.

Some artists have the oddball outside the box weirdness thing down, or some of the choreography and production and shit. Some have the guitar licks or can bring some funk. A lot of them write good songs. Noboby I can think of has the total package.

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If anything good came from his death it's having all these unreleased songs and live material finally up on Youtube or being released by the estate. It's nice to have those floodgates opened up, not gonna lie. Just sucks I can't look forward to his next tour, new album, TV appearance, aftershow or interview anymore. I used to treat those things like EVENTS and make time for them in my life.

Now I just crawl down YouTube rabbit holes and listen to the SDE's.

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herb4 said:

He sure as shit left a giant void when he died and I've never filled it. I'm hard pressed to find a musician that can/could do so many things so well and who lived his life so stylistically unique. He was a generational talent for sure who's spawned a ton of imitators but no one I can think of has all of his chops in so many areas.

From producing, song writing, musicianship, showmanship, fashion and just being a singularly unique person and artist who lived his life exactly how he wanted to, I'm hard pressed to think of someone that can fill his tiny high heeled shoes.

Some artists have the oddball outside the box weirdness thing down, or some of the choreography and production and shit. Some have the guitar licks or can bring some funk. A lot of them write good songs. Noboby I can think of has the total package.

EDIT

If anything good came from his death it's having all these unreleased songs and live material finally up on Youtube or being released by the estate. It's nice to have those floodgates opened up, not gonna lie. Just sucks I can't look forward to his next tour, new album, TV appearance, aftershow or interview anymore. I used to treat those things like EVENTS and make time for them in my life.

Now I just crawl down YouTube rabbit holes and listen to the SDE's.

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You have just described my life there, (well some of it!) I feel the loss of Prince now more than I did when he died. For all those reasons you describe.

I don't miss Prince the person. I liked Prince better before the Internet. I miss the fact there won't be newly recorded albums but watching his interviews? No way.

antonb said:

Learning an instrument helps, when I play his music on the piano, it brings me so close to him, at times it feels like he never left at all.

homesquid said:

I don't miss Prince the person. I liked Prince better before the Internet. I miss the fact there won't be newly recorded albums but watching his interviews? No way.

There are a LOT of things I liked better before the internet. Seems like the world was a much better, more pleasant place to live.

leadline said:

looby said:

looby said:

homesquid said:

I don't miss Prince the person. I liked Prince better before the Internet. I miss the fact there won't be newly recorded albums but watching his interviews? No way.

There are a LOT of things I liked better before the internet. Seems like the world was a much better, more pleasant place to live.

I agree. People drove better too (not on their god damned phones all the time).

Anymore, I feel like I'm consantly bombarding with disinformation, conspiracy theories and endless advertisements and scams. Spam. Robocalls. Tired of creating passwords, having to register every time I need to wipe my ass and needing to upgrade software on my fucking refirgerator. EVERYTHING doesnt need to be online. I think the ubiquity of the internet going to be our undoing.

When a big bank or someone likes Google gets hit with a major hack/secuirty breach, our society is going to be in big trouble.

I think when Prince said "the internet is dead", he meant in terms of benig a really useful, convenient thing that tangibly improved or lives. Not that nobody wasn't using it.

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herb4 said:

He sure as shit left a giant void when he died and I've never filled it. I'm hard pressed to find a musician that can/could do so many things so well and who lived his life so stylistically unique. He was a generational talent for sure who's spawned a ton of imitators but no one I can think of has all of his chops in so many areas.

From producing, song writing, musicianship, showmanship, fashion and just being a singularly unique person and artist who lived his life exactly how he wanted to, I'm hard pressed to think of someone that can fill his tiny high heeled shoes.

Some artists have the oddball outside the box weirdness thing down, or some of the choreography and production and shit. Some have the guitar licks or can bring some funk. A lot of them write good songs. Noboby I can think of has the total package.

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If anything good came from his death it's having all these unreleased songs and live material finally up on Youtube or being released by the estate. It's nice to have those floodgates opened up, not gonna lie. Just sucks I can't look forward to his next tour, new album, TV appearance, aftershow or interview anymore. I used to treat those things like EVENTS and make time for them in my life.

Now I just crawl down YouTube rabbit holes and listen to the SDE's.

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He was our Mozart except he had more tools at his disposal... and um Pro Tools. Music is like the universe. There are tonnes of possibilities, near infinite variety of sounds and yet the vast majority is pointless noise.

However music didn't die in 2016. The best movie soundtrack I've heard is Alien Covenant. Critics didn't agree. Fuck 'em. When it comes to music I'm smarter than them. That was 2017.
Same year, Todd Rundgren releases White Knight on where the ballads would've made P proud. Some Neptunes songs also emerged after 2016, which may not have been in circulation before P died and that he may not have heard.

fortuneandserendipity said:

herb4 said:

He sure as shit left a giant void when he died and I've never filled it. I'm hard pressed to find a musician that can/could do so many things so well and who lived his life so stylistically unique. He was a generational talent for sure who's spawned a ton of imitators but no one I can think of has all of his chops in so many areas.

From producing, song writing, musicianship, showmanship, fashion and just being a singularly unique person and artist who lived his life exactly how he wanted to, I'm hard pressed to think of someone that can fill his tiny high heeled shoes.

Some artists have the oddball outside the box weirdness thing down, or some of the choreography and production and shit. Some have the guitar licks or can bring some funk. A lot of them write good songs. Noboby I can think of has the total package.

EDIT

If anything good came from his death it's having all these unreleased songs and live material finally up on Youtube or being released by the estate. It's nice to have those floodgates opened up, not gonna lie. Just sucks I can't look forward to his next tour, new album, TV appearance, aftershow or interview anymore. I used to treat those things like EVENTS and make time for them in my life.

Now I just crawl down YouTube rabbit holes and listen to the SDE's.

[Edited 4/3/21 14:31pm]

He was our Mozart except he had more tools at his disposal... and um Pro Tools. Music is like the universe. There are tonnes of possibilities, near infinite variety of sounds and yet the vast majority is pointless noise.

However music didn't die in 2016. The best movie soundtrack I've heard is Alien Covenant. Critics didn't agree. Fuck 'em. When it comes to music I'm smarter than them. That was 2017.
Same year, Todd Rundgren releases White Knight on where the ballads would've made P proud. Some Neptunes songs also emerged after 2016, which may not have been in circulation before P died and that he may not have heard.

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You know all music critics and you know you are "smarter" about music than every one of them.

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Wow, what a thing to say.

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CAL3 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

He was our Mozart except he had more tools at his disposal... and um Pro Tools. Music is like the universe. There are tonnes of possibilities, near infinite variety of sounds and yet the vast majority is pointless noise.

However music didn't die in 2016. The best movie soundtrack I've heard is Alien Covenant. Critics didn't agree. Fuck 'em. When it comes to music I'm smarter than them. That was 2017.
Same year, Todd Rundgren releases White Knight on where the ballads would've made P proud. Some Neptunes songs also emerged after 2016, which may not have been in circulation before P died and that he may not have heard.

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You know all music critics and you know you are "smarter" about music than every one of them.

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Wow, what a thing to say.

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Music critics aren't musicologists. And they're not even musicians most of the time. A lot of P albums have got bad reviews and you know what? They're wrong

Yeah, I'm real wary of people that call other people out for not understanding music, not liking "real" music and coming off like an authority on What's Good. I've run into more than a few pretentious assholes who seem to like nothing better than lecturing others on what they should like or what sucks and that attitutde is pretty tiresome. It crosses over into film, visual arts and writing but music is truly one of the most subjective art forms there is. Bad movies, bad writing and shitty drawings are pretty easy to lock in and identify but music is different I think.

Tons of people bought Def Leppard records, who I think is terrible, or listen to nothing but Country which I generally loathe but I'm not gonna call them stupid for liking what they like.

I enjoy a ton of shit that a lot of other people don't and have scores of Guilty Pleasures in my best of lists. For some reason, people who mainly listen to jazz and are heavily into it seem to be the most obnoxious about being an expert.


Wait...what's this thread about again?

Oh, yeah. Damn. COming up on half a decade now, arent't we?

herb4 said:

Yeah, I'm real wary of people that call other people out for not understanding music, not liking "real" music and coming off like an authority on What's Good. I've run into more than a few pretentious assholes who seem to like nothing better than lecturing others on what they should like or what sucks and that attitutde is pretty tiresome. It crosses over into film, visual arts and writing but music is truly one of the most subjective art forms there is. Bad movies, bad writing and shitty drawings are pretty easy to lock in and identify but music is different I think.

Tons of people bought Def Leppard records, who I think is terrible, or listen to nothing but Country which I generally loathe but I'm not gonna call them stupid for liking what they like.

I enjoy a ton of shit that a lot of other people don't and have scores of Guilty Pleasures in my best of lists. For some reason, people who mainly listen to jazz and are heavily into it seem to be the most obnoxious about being an expert.


Wait...what's this thread about again?

Oh, yeah. Damn. COming up on half a decade now, arent't we?

You may have a point. Upon meeting P for the first time, Eric Leeds' opening gambit was "I'm not a fan". P took it on the chin and recruited him anyway. But yeah, Eric had only listened to jazz at this point, ownd every note Miles Davis recorded and was quite proficient on the tenor sax. In other words, what you might call a trained asshole. I mean, if you're not gonna dig early 80s new wave/rockabilly/funk era Prince?

But your first paragraph I would be more inclined to go with if animals had an acute affinity to music. It's not been documented. Like a chimpanzee is probably going to show more interest in the mono lisa than music, by way of comparison. But then again, there's that classical pianist who plays to elephants and they haven't stampeded him, yet.

i miss him too

fortuneandserendipity said:

CAL3 said:

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You know all music critics and you know you are "smarter" about music than every one of them.

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Wow, what a thing to say.

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Music critics aren't musicologists. And they're not even musicians most of the time. A lot of P albums have got bad reviews and you know what? They're wrong

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Music critics don't think with one collective mind, nor do they share the same background. That should go without saying, but when people stereotype the way you're doing, I guess it it worth the reminder.

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And one needn't be a musician in order to be "smart" about music. Just like one needn't be a chef to express informed opinions on whether or not they like the food they're being served. Just like one needn't be a politician to offer a critique on the peformance of an election official.

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The list of things that people can offer informed opinions about - without actually being part of that profession - is long.

CAL3 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Music critics aren't musicologists. And they're not even musicians most of the time. A lot of P albums have got bad reviews and you know what? They're wrong

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Music critics don't think with one collective mind, nor do they share the same background. That should go without saying, but when people stereotype the way you're doing, I guess it it worth the reminder.

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And one needn't be a musician in order to be "smart" about music. Just like one needn't be a chef to express informed opinions on whether or not they like the food they're being served. Just like one needn't be a politician to offer a critique on the peformance of an election official.

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The list of things that people can offer informed opinions about - without actually being part of that profession - is long.

No, but they have a tendency to think that their tastes and opinions are superior to everyone else's.

More informed, such as it is, usually with a rather heavy precipitation of arrogance.

I don't mind critics and it they have their place. The problem is that most of them can't create a fraction of the art that they spend their lives pontificating over and getting paid to spout off on. Most of the stuff here on the org is just people talking about shit they like or don't -- which is really all critics do except they get paid for it.

It's all anybody really knows. What they LIKE and WHY they think It's Good. Problems start when someone claims to have superior knowledge or intellect into the artistic process when they, themselves, haven't created shit beyond criticism of other people's work. Roger Ebert's only foray into film was a shit show.

Go back and read some published critiques of classic films, paintings, books, music...you name it...to see just how full of shit your average professional critic can be. It's far easier to find fault than to create.