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Thread started 04/02/21 1:23am

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Danny Elfman on Tim Burton, Prince and Batman


https://youtu.be/mUzEd-E6IrU


"So there’s a Batman score by prince somewhere?"

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Reply #1 posted 04/02/21 2:37am

udo

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rap said:

"So there’s a Batman score by prince somewhere?"

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Even if so, the Estate would not reelase it.

Even aside from movie-rights and such.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #2 posted 04/02/21 2:46am

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Reply #3 posted 04/02/21 6:40am

Margot

rap said:


https://youtu.be/mUzEd-E6IrU


"So there’s a Batman score by prince somewhere?"

I wondered the same thing.

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Reply #4 posted 04/02/21 8:07am

Genesia

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I just listened to Elfman's Batman score (which I love) yesterday. He definitely incorporated a bit of Scandalous in there - but that is all I hear of Prince. Totally respect that he stuck to his guns.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/21 10:35am

thebanishedone

Irony of life a pop musician from a more than average band become

serious movie score maker and the guy we hail as a Genious got stuck in the realm of pop music

playing the same setlist and same guitar solo again and again. i was always hoping that Prince will eventually leave the world of pop music and become some serious music condducter or similar.

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Reply #6 posted 04/02/21 11:06am

TrivialPursuit

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Genesia said:

I just listened to Elfman's Batman score (which I love) yesterday. He definitely incorporated a bit of "Scandalous" in there - but that is all I hear of Prince. Totally respect that he stuck to his guns.


And I think the credits in the movie and score album reflect that. They also incorporate elements of "Beautiful Dreamer" by Stephen Foster (a mid 19th century song).

I enjoyed that Elfman used part of "Scandalous" in "Love Theme." It creates a more full-bodied and inherent notion to the music across the board.

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Reply #7 posted 04/02/21 1:35pm

jdcxc

Genesia said:

I just listened to Elfman's Batman score (which I love) yesterday. He definitely incorporated a bit of Scandalous in there - but that is all I hear of Prince. Totally respect that he stuck to his guns.

And he was respectful of Prince's legacy. Who knows, it might have worked.

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Reply #8 posted 04/02/21 3:55pm

antonb

Batman and Batman Returns are Elfmans best scores. Love em both.

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Reply #9 posted 04/02/21 4:59pm

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In one of the biographies it mentions P submitting an orchestral score for Batman but Tim Burton didn't think it worked.

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Reply #10 posted 04/02/21 6:12pm

Margot

I skimmed through Elfmans's interview but it seemed Burton chose Elfman before he submitted the score?

Though I do remember Burton saying he was a Prince fan though his music wasn't right for the movie.

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Reply #11 posted 04/02/21 6:33pm

rap

Margot said:

I skimmed through Elfmans's interview but it seemed Burton chose Elfman before he submitted the score?

Though I do remember Burton saying he was a Prince fan though his music wasn't right for the movie.

https://ultimateprince.co...im-burton/

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Reply #12 posted 04/02/21 6:36pm

ludwig

Like I said before in another thread about Elfman's score, Danny Elfman "borrowed" heavily from Gottfried Huppertz' soundtrack for "Die Nibelungen" for his Batman theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmG-ozPW6S4&t=597s

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Reply #13 posted 04/04/21 1:07am

BlueShakooo

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Like I said before in another thread about Elfman's score, Danny Elfman "borrowed" heavily from Gottfried Huppertz' soundtrack for "Die Nibelungen" for his Batman theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmG-ozPW6S4&t=597s


Very interesting!
Thank you!
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Reply #14 posted 04/04/21 1:20am

BlueShakooo

rap said:


https://youtu.be/mUzEd-E6IrU




"So there’s a Batman score by prince somewhere?"


That was great!
Thank you rap!
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Reply #15 posted 04/04/21 3:56am

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BlueShakooo said:

rap said:


https://youtu.be/mUzEd-E6IrU


"So there’s a Batman score by prince somewhere?"

That was great! Thank you rap!

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Batman SDE extra disc?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #16 posted 04/05/21 11:50am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

In one of the biographies it mentions P submitting an orchestral score for Batman but Tim Burton didn't think it worked.

Of course it didn't. Prince knew nothing about orchestral writing. He outsourced that shit on his own records till the day he died. Prince was not a classical musician, he couldn't read music, and he certainly couldn't write it on a page for someone else to read. No shame there. That's not what he was about. It wasn't his focus. The idea that Prince could do everything is ridiculous and does him no favors.

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Reply #17 posted 04/05/21 1:26pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:

In one of the biographies it mentions P submitting an orchestral score for Batman but Tim Burton didn't think it worked.

Of course it didn't. Prince knew nothing about orchestral writing. He outsourced that shit on his own records till the day he died. Prince was not a classical musician, he couldn't read music, and he certainly couldn't write it on a page for someone else to read. No shame there. That's not what he was about. It wasn't his focus. The idea that Prince could do everything is ridiculous and does him no favors.


Yeah, supposedly he didn't know manuscript or how to write that way. Which is where Clare Fischer came in. It's in the book Slave to the Rhythm. But it sounds very hearsay, like no quotes.

P was obviously intelligent enough to understand music theory and learn it in minimal time. But maybe it never took his interest because he was all about what came instinctively to him. He was always that artist, that spontaneous so maybe he never changed.

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Reply #18 posted 04/05/21 1:37pm

Genesia

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fortuneandserendipity said:

steakfinger said:

Of course it didn't. Prince knew nothing about orchestral writing. He outsourced that shit on his own records till the day he died. Prince was not a classical musician, he couldn't read music, and he certainly couldn't write it on a page for someone else to read. No shame there. That's not what he was about. It wasn't his focus. The idea that Prince could do everything is ridiculous and does him no favors.


Yeah, supposedly he didn't know manuscript or how to write that way. Which is where Clare Fischer came in. It's in the book Slave to the Rhythm. But it sounds very hearsay, like no quotes.

P was obviously intelligent enough to understand music theory and learn it in minimal time. But maybe it never took his interest because he was all about what came instinctively to him. He was always that artist, that spontaneous so maybe he never changed.


Eric Leeds did a fair amount of orchestrating for him, too.

Prince didn't want to study music. He wanted to make music. Not passing judgment on his choices either way.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #19 posted 04/05/21 1:52pm

BlueShakooo

rap said:


https://youtu.be/mUzEd-E6IrU




"So there’s a Batman score by prince somewhere?"


Maybe Prince just renamed his score "Kamasutra" 😄
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