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Thread started 03/15/21 3:23pm

AMERICA1ST

March 15 2004 PRINCE changed the guitar world at the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame

Prince obliterated everyone with his solo during the performance of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Today is the anniversary of that histrois Prince victory.

Just wanted to make sure someone knew it.

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Reply #1 posted 03/15/21 3:53pm

nayroo2002

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AMERICA1ST said:

Prince obliterated everyone with his solo during the performance of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Today is the anniversary of that histrois Prince victory.

Just wanted to make sure someone knew it.

He just eclipsed every other guitar player with this one and only performance?

No.

Prince was at the right place at the right time with an agenda.

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #2 posted 03/15/21 6:00pm

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Wrong thread post, but since I’m here, the performance is legendary, but only for those that weren’t aware that he did this on a nightly basis. Much like the Super Bowl, the bigger the stage, the more he shined.
[Edited 3/15/21 18:03pm]
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Reply #3 posted 03/15/21 6:28pm

coldcoffeeandc
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Dhani Harrisons face was a picture

Happier times
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Reply #4 posted 03/15/21 7:19pm

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nayroo2002 said:

He just eclipsed every other guitar player with this one and only performance?

No.

Prince was at the right place at the right time with an agenda.


That performance was special, it totally makes sense to acnowledging how notable it was. Prince was also in his guitarist prime when he did that. Those award shows aren't really the place to make a statement, you often don't get a sound check, and it's rare you get a stage of selfless artists that are practically begging you to do it, plus they loop the chorus at one point and Prince doesn't even look sure if he should go for it.

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Reply #5 posted 03/15/21 8:22pm

AMERICA1ST

DarkKnight1 said:

Wrong thread post, but since I’m here, the performance is legendary, but only for those that weren’t aware that he did this on a nightly basis. Much like the Super Bowl, the bigger the stage, the more he shined. [Edited 3/15/21 18:03pm]

I have seen him do it several times from 4 feet away - but he wasnt onstage with Steve Windwood, Tom Petty and Jeff Lyne in front of a national television audience after being inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame - alas the difference.

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Reply #6 posted 03/15/21 8:54pm

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AMERICA1ST said:



DarkKnight1 said:


Wrong thread post, but since I’m here, the performance is legendary, but only for those that weren’t aware that he did this on a nightly basis. Much like the Super Bowl, the bigger the stage, the more he shined. [Edited 3/15/21 18:03pm]

I have seen him do it several times from 4 feet away - but he wasnt onstage with Steve Windwood, Tom Petty and Jeff Lyne in front of a national television audience after being inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame - alas the difference.



That's cool, Where did you see him?
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Reply #7 posted 03/16/21 12:03am

udo

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Was he really onstage with Steve Windwood, Tom Petty and Jeff Lyne or was he simply doing his own thing?

Yes, it sounded good together but do not let that fool ya...

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Reply #8 posted 03/16/21 7:03am

Harps

I'm in a few Beatles fan groups and they really shit on Prince for this guitar solo......


"Too showy", "All about Prince", "disrespecting George Harrison", "George would have hated it" etc etc etc.........

They all miss the point in my opinion. What better way to pay homage to a great guitarist by delivering a solo that people are still talking about now! Let's be honest, up until Prince steps up, the performance is very paint by numbers - damn sure nobody would be watching it on youtube all these years later if P hadn't have tore it up!

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Reply #9 posted 03/16/21 10:51am

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Harps said:

I'm in a few Beatles fan groups and they really shit on Prince for this guitar solo......


"Too showy", "All about Prince", "disrespecting George Harrison", "George would have hated it" etc etc etc.........

They all miss the point in my opinion. What better way to pay homage to a great guitarist by delivering a solo that people are still talking about now! Let's be honest, up until Prince steps up, the performance is very paint by numbers - damn sure nobody would be watching it on youtube all these years later if P hadn't have tore it up!

I can see both sides of this one, though it's fun to tune into that 'showy performance' every now and then.

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Reply #10 posted 03/16/21 12:45pm

Milty2

I loved this solo and this performance (one of his Top 10) but I've heard Prince crush bigger and better solos live.

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Reply #11 posted 03/16/21 3:09pm

Margot

We talked about this last month. What most people have seen is the edited version which makes Prince look less collaborative.

In the unedited, real version he is checking in frequently w/Tom Petty~very conscious of his role.

(not grand-standing)

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Reply #12 posted 03/16/21 3:56pm

Farfunknugin

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coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

Dhani Harrisons face was a picture

Happier times


He was also on record as saying prince was showboating , sure didn’t seem like he minded at the time .
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Reply #13 posted 03/16/21 5:57pm

kingricefan

While I agree that Prince totally shredded it, I also notice at one point towards the end of the solo that Petty gives a somewhat nasty look to Prince like he's trying to convey 'Enough already!' to Prince. I've watched the video numerous times trying to talk myself out of what I'm seeing but each time I watch it seems more and more obvious to me.

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Reply #14 posted 03/16/21 6:53pm

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kingricefan said:

While I agree that Prince totally shredded it, I also notice at one point towards the end of the solo that Petty gives a somewhat nasty look to Prince like he's trying to convey 'Enough already!' to Prince. I've watched the video numerous times trying to talk myself out of what I'm seeing but each time I watch it seems more and more obvious to me.

Who gives a F*ck what Petty or Dhani thought? This is why Prince had to break these overrated stiffs off and to smash the racist Rock King Guitar Hero myth. This performance has been seen by 100 million ppl due to Prince.

Btw...Petty has only been very warm in interviews regarding Prince's killing and Prince has said kind remarks about Petty. 😂

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Reply #15 posted 03/17/21 1:35am

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kingricefan said:

While I agree that Prince totally shredded it, I also notice at one point towards the end of the solo that Petty gives a somewhat nasty look to Prince like he's trying to convey 'Enough already!' to Prince. I've watched the video numerous times trying to talk myself out of what I'm seeing but each time I watch it seems more and more obvious to me.


Doesn't Petty claim he's the one who told him to ball out?

If he gives him a look, it migt just be concern because there's a point where it does go on a little long, and it's just so good, that even when you watch it for the 100th time it's hard not to think "that's good, don't overdo it".

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Reply #16 posted 03/17/21 4:53am

Vannormal

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Yes it was fun (and sublime)

but,

did it actualy had something to do wit George Harisson ?

It was a tribute to G. Harisson.

Not a commercial for Prince to try to polish up his comeback.

Bash me.

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Still, I enjoy it more than often when i look back at the video.

It IS fucking awesome.

Just a bit out of place imho.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #17 posted 03/17/21 8:00am

leecaldon

kingricefan said:

While I agree that Prince totally shredded it, I also notice at one point towards the end of the solo that Petty gives a somewhat nasty look to Prince like he's trying to convey 'Enough already!' to Prince. I've watched the video numerous times trying to talk myself out of what I'm seeing but each time I watch it seems more and more obvious to me.

I read/heard a Petty interview where he had nothing but complimentary/very positive things to say about Prince's performance.

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Reply #18 posted 03/17/21 10:28am

udo

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Margot said:

We talked about this last month. What most people have seen is the edited version which makes Prince look less collaborative.

In the unedited, real version he is checking in frequently w/Tom Petty~very conscious of his role.

(not grand-standing)

.

Where can we see this version, please?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #19 posted 03/17/21 12:08pm

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i am as big a Beatles fan (with Harrison being my fave Beatle) as I am a Prince fan. I have always thought George would've LOVED it.

Prince brought that song to a whole new level. Remember Claption did the solo on the original and that Claption has mad respect for Prince. I have a strong feeling Harrison would've been honored.

Finally Petty wanted him to go for it and never had an issue with Prince "showboating". He brought fire to that performance and is THE reason people still talk about it to this day.

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Reply #20 posted 03/17/21 3:16pm

steakfinger

Prince changed nothing about the "Guitar World" in his entire 57 years on Earth, much less that one night. Prince is great, no doubt, but he brought nothing new to the guitar. Jimi Hendrix and Edward Van Halen changed the way people played guitar. Their impact was enormous and immediate. Prince wrote some great songs and displayed great musicianship while performing them live and in the studio. He didn't change guitar any more than Stevie Wonder did. No hate here, just facts. David Bowie didn't change the "Guitar World" either and I love him, too.

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Reply #21 posted 03/17/21 3:51pm

kingricefan

jdcxc said:

kingricefan said:

While I agree that Prince totally shredded it, I also notice at one point towards the end of the solo that Petty gives a somewhat nasty look to Prince like he's trying to convey 'Enough already!' to Prince. I've watched the video numerous times trying to talk myself out of what I'm seeing but each time I watch it seems more and more obvious to me.

Who gives a F*ck what Petty or Dhani thought? This is why Prince had to break these overrated stiffs off and to smash the racist Rock King Guitar Hero myth. This performance has been seen by 100 million ppl due to Prince.

Btw...Petty has only been very warm in interviews regarding Prince's killing and Prince has said kind remarks about Petty. 😂

Dhani's face conveys nothing but joy and love when Prince starts to shred it. It's one of the things that I love about the performance.

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Reply #22 posted 03/17/21 4:00pm

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George Harrison was a v competent but safe guitarist. Even my fave guitar work of his, the solo on 'Let It Be', you could say sounds conservative.
But he said in interview, the reason he wasn't a virtuoso was that the beatles soundbook limited his freedom to experiment.
That said, GH would've appreciated the solo, because why cover a song to sound exactly as it was on record, if you're playing it live?! Too many bands do that and it sounds pantz.

The guitar playing at the RnR Hall of Fame isn't even P at his best. Year before, his guitar solo on Shhh at Hong Kong Rocks festival clearly beats it.

[Edited 3/18/21 9:13am]

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Reply #23 posted 03/18/21 4:06am

rafael

udo said:

Margot said:

We talked about this last month. What most people have seen is the edited version which makes Prince look less collaborative.

In the unedited, real version he is checking in frequently w/Tom Petty~very conscious of his role.

(not grand-standing)

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Where can we see this version, please?

yes, where is this edited version.....

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Reply #24 posted 03/18/21 4:36am

Milty2

rafael said:

udo said:

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Where can we see this version, please?

yes, where is this edited version.....

The edited version is on YouTube. The unedited version was floating around a couple of months ago.

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Reply #25 posted 03/18/21 7:37am

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Milty2 said:

rafael said:

yes, where is this edited version.....

The edited version is on YouTube. The unedited version was floating around a couple of months ago.

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Please show us the location when found again...

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Reply #26 posted 03/18/21 9:14am

Milty2

udo said:

Milty2 said:

The edited version is on YouTube. The unedited version was floating around a couple of months ago.

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Please show us the location when found again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83zqqfKh2_k

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Reply #27 posted 03/18/21 10:18am

udo

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Milty2 said:

udo said:

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Please show us the location when found again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83zqqfKh2_k

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Thanks!
And YES indeed, there are clear signs of interaction not in the 'official' youtube video of this song at this event....

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #28 posted 03/18/21 4:27pm

berlinas2k

First of all, eff Tom Petty. Secondly, P had every right to shine considering he was the only person on that stage being inducted into the HoF that night.
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Reply #29 posted 03/18/21 6:39pm

Milty2

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First of all, eff Tom Petty. Secondly, P had every right to shine considering he was the only person on that stage being inducted into the HoF that night.

Oh good God

There were other musicians on that stage who were inducted that same evening: Steve Winwood and Jim Capaldi from Traffic.

And no Tom Petty shouldn't have to "eff off". He, Jeff Lynne and the other guitarist (can't remember his name) were there on behalf of George Harrison

who arguably was the biggest name in the ceremony that year hence why While My Guitar Gently Sleeps WAS THE CLOSING JAM.

Petty and Lynne were in the Traveling Wilburys with George Harrison. They released two albums and worked together over the many years. It was only right that they were there representing GH rolleyes

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