Da Da Da is genius hiphop, regardless of the rap. Those percussion sounds. P nailed every genre. Mr. Happy and Face Down are nearly as good.

Tony M was underrated. Maybe he could even do speed rap.

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I love Prince as much as any fan, and yes, the man was of many talents, but rapping was not one of them. I know that sometimes because we love the man, that we thought he was perfect in every way, but in all honesty, he wasn't.

Is what he's doing on Sexy MF considered rap?

I know technically it is but I bet most rappers would catagorize it as talking on record.

Whatever it is it works exceptionally well on the record, and it is considered a classic so.

CynicKill said:

Is what he's doing on Sexy MF considered rap?

I know technically it is but I bet most rappers would catagorize it as talking on record.

Whatever it is it works exceptionally well on the record, and it is considered a classic so.

Agree

I thought the Days of Wild rapped lyrics (studio version) were cool.

ufoclub said:

Some people said a lot of things. I mean, he didn't have to. In fact, I preferred if he didn't.

khill95 said:

I feel like he could rap but not in a freestyle setting. His rapping on the Act 2 tour, especially during the "Tell Me How You Want To Be Done" is definitely more in his lane. It's playful and cool and isn't as braggadocious as a lot of rap that was heard in the mainstream at that time. If you gave him time and pen and paper I feel he could really get into the style, as a style that embraces poetry

I'll never understand when people say that he couldn't rap. I've heard a few songs where he raps now and I don't think he's that bad though. Isn't the rap part on the Gett Off cover in coming 2 america him? If it is him, it's pretty good. Just because his lyrics aren't what Tupac might have written, doesn't mean it's bad. Also, Face down, it's good. My sister is a hip hop head and says that if Prince would've grown up to be a rapper, he might have been one of the better ones and I also wonder what his sound would've been had he been born later.

A lot of pop stars had a guest rap star on their albums in the early 90s. Paula Abdul, Michael Jackson, etc.

But, where those other acts featured a rapper on one or two tracks, Prince enlisted Tony M. into his band and IMO showcased him far too much. He wasn't bad really, but there was much too much of him.

I would have much preferred if Prince himself had performed those rap segments himself.

TrivialPursuit said:

LOL OKAY.

Prince didn't get that contract because of his attempt to rap on a song.

"My Name is Prince" and "Sexy M.F." were bombs. They didn't even come close to cracking the top 20 in the US.

Come wasn't an album filled with wannabe rappers, including Prince's attempts. "Space" had a limited release, so any "rap" on that went unheard by the masses. Come was #1 only in the UK, no other country including the US. It barely made Gold status.

In fact, "Diamonds and Pearls" was his last #1 hit in the U.S. on the Top 100 or R&B chart (not "Cream" as many think).

So this rap=hits bullshit is invalid.

Perfectly said

I think his rapping is mostly fine within the context of his own career, it's bad within the context of hip-hop but that's not his world. I don't think any real jazz heads are putting on those Madhouse albums either but as a Prince fan it's fun to see him explore that side of his musical personality.

If a man can be judged by his first rap, then the song 'The Latest Fashion' is a pretty good start.

OldFriends4Sale said:

TrivialPursuit said:

LOL OKAY.

Prince didn't get that contract because of his attempt to rap on a song.

"My Name is Prince" and "Sexy M.F." were bombs. They didn't even come close to cracking the top 20 in the US.

Come wasn't an album filled with wannabe rappers, including Prince's attempts. "Space" had a limited release, so any "rap" on that went unheard by the masses. Come was #1 only in the UK, no other country including the US. It barely made Gold status.

In fact, "Diamonds and Pearls" was his last #1 hit in the U.S. on the Top 100 or R&B chart (not "Cream" as many think).

So this rap=hits bullshit is invalid.

Perfectly said

wrong Cream was a number 1 and my name is Prince and sexy mf may be bombs in US but not every where else.

sambluedolphin said:

jaawwnn said:

sambluedolphin said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Perfectly said

wrong Cream was a number 1 and my name is Prince and sexy mf may be bombs in US but not every where else.

He's correct Cream was not the last, Diamonds and Pearls was

Cream was released in Sept 1991 Diamonds and Pearls was released November 1991

when Prince rapped in the 90s it came off as a characture.

Prince's best "rap" was on Dead On it when he mocked it (and likely told us what he really thought of it). But lets be real, he the then tried to incorporate intially for purely commercial reasons (yes he was selling out) but I do think that he later understood it to be a legitimate Black art form but he still couldnt help but adopt the corniest and whackest elements (seriously who wanted to hear Doug E Fresh in 90s? come on, gun mic? and came across as disingenous and bit of a fake.

"Just, when you, thought it, was, safe-to-go-outside..."

is it about corny rappers or wrappings for cornbread?

Cornbread Rappers

ufoclub said:

funny how Americans have so little knowledge of anything outside their own borders, then go hard on the defensive when actually called on their ignorance

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fragglerock said:

funny how Americans have so little knowledge of anything outside their own borders, then go hard on the defensive when actually called on their ignorance

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Lol...true (American here)

fragglerock said:

fragglerock said:

funny how Americans have so little knowledge of anything outside their own borders, then go hard on the defensive when actually called on their ignorance

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facts don't care about your feelings lol

ufoclub said:

fragglerock said:

funny how Americans have so little knowledge of anything outside their own borders, then go hard on the defensive when actually called on their ignorance

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Where did that happen in a thread about “rap”?

oh about My Name is Prince and Sexy MF charting. I see.