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Thread started 02/23/21 10:55pm

DenDen

So "Small Grey Monkey" is not an unreleased track

According to chapter 1 of Duane Tudhal's new book, "Small Grey Monkey" was the working title for what became "Merci for the Speed of a Mad Clown in Summer" on Sheila E's Romance 1600 album.

Who knew?

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Reply #1 posted 02/23/21 11:03pm

ForceofNature

The latter being definitely the cooler of the two titles lol

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Reply #2 posted 02/24/21 4:40am

embmmusic

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But that track didn't have any Prince involvement though right?

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #3 posted 02/24/21 5:39am

DenDen

embmmusic said:

But that track didn't have any Prince involvement though right?

According to Duane's book he did. A lot of things credited to Sheila were actually Prince creations.

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Reply #4 posted 02/24/21 10:20am

nayroo2002

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OH!

i better read that freebie, then eek

(gonna buy the book, don't worry)

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #5 posted 02/24/21 10:54am

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Sorry!

won't interrupt again, but i have to make a comment about an entry in the first chapter

about Friday, January 4th, 1985.

"Toy Box" was initially tracked.

It's one of those "this-is-why-i'm-a-Prince-fan" songs.

There is no vaccine for the utter sickness of the bass on this song!!!

Thanks for your patience smile

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #6 posted 02/24/21 11:23am

LoveGalore

nayroo2002 said:

Sorry!


won't interrupt again, but i have to make a comment about an entry in the first chapter


about Friday, January 4th, 1985.


"Toy Box" was initially tracked.


It's one of those "this-is-why-i'm-a-Prince-fan" songs.


There is no vaccine for the utter sickness of the bass on this song!!!


Thanks for your patience smile



Agreed, Toy Box is a MFing jam. I desperately want it in good quality. (ie not "collector quality)
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Reply #7 posted 02/24/21 11:26am

lustmealways

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toy box is indeed an underrated gem

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Reply #8 posted 02/24/21 12:04pm

nayroo2002

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Sorry!

Just one more focus point/retrospect/perspective:

...

Susan Rogers. “I think the alternative was unthinkable. He was a kid from a
poor background in North Minneapolis. He had a very loving heart, but I think
Prince was well aware that time matters. He was using this powerful engine, the
engine of his creativity, this incredible brain he had coupled with his unparalleled
work ethic. All of those things he knew he had early in life, so he was going
to use it. He was going to run it as hard as he could until the energy ran out.

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #9 posted 02/24/21 6:17pm

billymeade

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Just to be clear, the book still says it's a Sheila track.

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Reply #10 posted 02/25/21 2:28am

LoveGalore

billymeade said:

Just to be clear, the book still says it's a Sheila track.



As opposed to what? Is Glamorous Life a Prince track?
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Reply #11 posted 02/25/21 3:44am

Dandroppedadim
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I'm so glad this has been revealed as a Prince composition - as so many people have poo-poo'd a lot of my theories over the years -just beacuse it says so on the record or Princevault says so!

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Reply #12 posted 02/25/21 6:10am

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LoveGalore said:

billymeade said:

Just to be clear, the book still says it's a Sheila track.

As opposed to what? Is Glamorous Life a Prince track?

Princevault, DMSR, and the 3rd post here point out that this track is Sheila's band only, with no Prince input.

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Reply #13 posted 02/25/21 6:11am

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Dandroppedadime said:

I'm so glad this has been revealed as a Prince composition - as so many people have poo-poo'd a lot of my theories over the years -just beacuse it says so on the record or Princevault says so!

It's NOT a Prince composition.

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Reply #14 posted 02/25/21 8:13am

DenDen

billymeade said:

Dandroppedadime said:

I'm so glad this has been revealed as a Prince composition - as so many people have poo-poo'd a lot of my theories over the years -just beacuse it says so on the record or Princevault says so!

It's NOT a Prince composition.

You can read Duane's book and decide for yourself but according to PrinceVault, 'Small Grey Monkey' was written by Prince with Sheila E providing percussion.

http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=Small_Grey_Monkey

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Reply #15 posted 02/25/21 9:57am

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DenDen said:

billymeade said:

It's NOT a Prince composition.

You can read Duane's book and decide for yourself but according to PrinceVault, 'Small Grey Monkey' was written by Prince with Sheila E providing percussion.

http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=Small_Grey_Monkey

Yes, that's the point of this thread. For years, it's been speculated that "Small Grey Monkey" was its own song from those sessions, and so assumed to be Prince + Sheila. Duane has uncovered that it was just the working title for a song Sheila brought to the sessions, which was edited and mixed properly. Princevault will probably have a wave of updates after publication of the new book!

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Reply #16 posted 03/01/21 2:17pm

Dandroppedadim
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Cool!
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Reply #17 posted 03/01/21 6:33pm

SoulAlive

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toy box is indeed an underrated gem



Indeed.I think it should have been the first single from Sheila’s album.
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Reply #18 posted 03/02/21 5:07am

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LoveGalore said:

billymeade said:

Just to be clear, the book still says it's a Sheila track.

As opposed to what? Is Glamorous Life a Prince track?

Merci 4 the Speed is like 2 Sexy

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