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Thread started 01/29/21 10:37pm

carlitoz

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After Hi School v. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man

I listened tonight for the first time to The Time’s After Hi School from 1981. It right away brought to mind Prince’s I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man.
Was there ever any known connection between them. School sounds to me like a very primitive idea of what Man became? Of course I know they’re not the same, but I found similarities.

Also the song Cool from that album makes me think of Purple Rain’s Baby I’m A Star. But Star is faster. As if he went back to it and used as inspiration to make a better song out of it.
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Reply #1 posted 01/29/21 11:02pm

lustmealways

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a real sophie's choice

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Reply #2 posted 01/29/21 11:57pm

BartVanHemelen

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Perhaps do some research next time. https://www.princevault.c..._Hi_School

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Reply #3 posted 01/30/21 12:01am

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what a comparation.lol how about Knack My Sharona and Barbara Straisand Woman In Love.i mean both are...songs lol

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Reply #4 posted 01/30/21 12:02am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Perhaps do some research next time. https://www.princevault.c..._Hi_School

And perhaps you should let people do whatever they want,does anybody tell u 2 do some research???20 odd years you are harrassing fellow orgers and somehow you are still here.

liv and let others do the same

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Reply #5 posted 01/30/21 12:26am

lustmealways

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BartVanHemelen said:

Perhaps do some research next time. https://www.princevault.c..._Hi_School

don't mind this guy, carlitoz. he's got a defect, it's been that way since he was a child. many therapists have been called in and none can fix him. we just keep him around for cheap laughs these days.

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Reply #6 posted 01/30/21 12:31am

ForceofNature

The general beat and flow of rhythm is similar but the melody and general harmonic content are fairly different

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Reply #7 posted 01/30/21 5:07am

bwaaatch

Yeah, can see some similarity, esp with the early verison of ICNTTPOYM on the SOTT Super deluxe, where production and guitar sound are similar.

Although in a different key, the chords are actually quite similar (although ICNTTPOYM extends them over a longer period, and only plays the first three instead of coming back up at the end). The fact they are written by different people doesn't mean they can't be related. Dez is obviously in the group for much of this period, listening to (and playing) the same stuff. And 'who wrote what' in Prince land is often a bit blurry anyway.


So just chipping in to say that linking these two songs is not a crazy thing to do, though I don't suspect any conscious relationship.

Moreover, making connections between songs is endlessly fun, even when stretching a bit. Let's not discourage it. Our brains are wired for it.

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Reply #8 posted 01/31/21 9:41am

FasterThan67

bwaaatch said:

/>Moreover, making connections between songs is endlessly fun, even when stretching a bit. Let's not discourage it. Our brains are wired for it.



this. 100000x
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Reply #9 posted 02/02/21 11:07am

alexzander

bwaaatch said:

Yeah, can see some similarity, esp with the early verison of ICNTTPOYM on the SOTT Super deluxe, where production and guitar sound are similar.

Although in a different key, the chords are actually quite similar (although ICNTTPOYM extends them over a longer period, and only plays the first three instead of coming back up at the end). The fact they are written by different people doesn't mean they can't be related. Dez is obviously in the group for much of this period, listening to (and playing) the same stuff. And 'who wrote what' in Prince land is often a bit blurry anyway.


So just chipping in to say that linking these two songs is not a crazy thing to do, though I don't suspect any conscious relationship.

Moreover, making connections between songs is endlessly fun, even when stretching a bit. Let's not discourage it. Our brains are wired for it.

I completely agree with the bolded part. I think thats what the OP meant. After High School was the first thing I though about when I heard the ICNTTPOYM deluxe version. Especially the intro.

This is what you want...This is what you get.
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Reply #10 posted 02/02/21 11:14am

SquirrelMeat

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After Hi School wasn't written by Prince.

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Reply #11 posted 02/02/21 11:19am

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I totally hear it. Both are that happy 4/4 rock n roll cliche structure with that rolling build into the chorus. "...Never Take the Place of Your Man" however does that unuusal thing of only singing the "title" once and then letting the rest of the chorus be intrumental.

But if you find and listen to the unreleased 12" remix of "...Never Take the Place of Your Man" you can hear a repeat of the title sung repititiously, as an altered version of the chorus, towards the end, much like this song. I really really really like that unreleased 12" mix.


In the bigger scheme of pop landscape, this Timer song is just a same genre song though, not a copy or really related... but for Prince, whose songs got so strange and eclectic, yes, that's remarkable.

Remarkable= worth pointing out

cool

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Reply #12 posted 02/03/21 3:30pm

AvocadosMax

ufoclub said:

I totally hear it. Both are that happy 4/4 rock n roll cliche structure with that rolling build into the chorus. "...Never Take the Place of Your Man" however does that unuusal thing of only singing the "title" once and then letting the rest of the chorus be intrumental.

But if you find and listen to the unreleased 12" remix of "...Never Take the Place of Your Man" you can hear a repeat of the title sung repititiously, as an altered version of the chorus, towards the end, much like this song. I really really really like that unreleased 12" mix.


In the bigger scheme of pop landscape, this Timer song is just a same genre song though, not a copy or really related... but for Prince, whose songs got so strange and eclectic, yes, that's remarkable.

Remarkable= worth pointing out

cool

i do too!!! i just wish they didn't shorten the guitar solo!!! ugh!!!

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