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Reply #90 posted 01/23/21 5:54am

OperatingTheta
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LILpoundCAKE said:



nayroo2002 said:


What would be a "stand-alone album" that didn't evolve into something already released???




He obviously picked and mixed tracks from ongoing projects to see what made the best album to his taste at that point. But I would say that any album that contains less than 3 'released on another album later' tracks can be considered a stand alone album imo no matter if it's from 1991 or 2011.




Exactly. And Prince talked about 'time capsule' albums he'd made that could later be released. For example, The Beautiful Strange album from 98, among many others.
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Reply #91 posted 01/23/21 7:37am

RODSERLING

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I’m new to the forum, and probably ignorant of lots of things. But isn’t there a risk of getting ahead of ourselves here?

1999 and SOTT are in most charts of 20th century all time great albums (as is PR). That just isn’t the case for other Prince albums however much we love them. Not even Parade is in that league.

So, can we be sure it makes conmercial sense to invest in SDE’s for any or several other albums?

I love D&P, it was the first Prince album I bought, and probably ranks among my 10 favourites (Parade is definitely there).

So I do hope the more optimistic takes on here turn out to be correct, but perhaps they aren’t?


Dirty Mind is in the Rolling Stones 500 list ( among others) too.
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Reply #92 posted 01/24/21 12:02am

udo

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OperatingThetan said:

Exactly. And Prince talked about 'time capsule' albums he'd made that could later be released. For example, The Beautiful Strange album from 98, among many others.

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So where's the Estate/WB touting a list of this stuff to make us interested?

I.e: if this stuff existed they did not know how to handle it.

That is the unprofessionalism exposed.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #93 posted 01/24/21 12:33am

ForceofNature

LoveGalore said:

Blondies1973 said:
I’m new to the forum, and probably ignorant of lots of things. But isn’t there a risk of getting ahead of ourselves here? 1999 and SOTT are in most charts of 20th century all time great albums (as is PR). That just isn’t the case for other Prince albums however much we love them. Not even Parade is in that league. So, can we be sure it makes conmercial sense to invest in SDE’s for any or several other albums? I love D&P, it was the first Prince album I bought, and probably ranks among my 10 favourites (Parade is definitely there). So I do hope the more optimistic takes on here turn out to be correct, but perhaps they aren’t?
It would be hard to believe that PR, 1999, and SOTT are the only albums worthy of an SDE given the performance of other era specific SDEs by other artists. No there's probably not going to be an SDE for Rainbow Children but his seminal works, no matter how they fare on someone's list, make $en$e. Selling an album of outtakes from 1985 will not do better than an SDE. This can be assured. Take a look at the sales performance of Originals vs the performance and fanfare around 1999 and SOTT.

Yes this is absolutely 100 percent true

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Reply #94 posted 01/24/21 1:50am

mediumdry

JorisE73 said:

I heard nothing concrete in the intervieuw.

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There wasn't anything concrete. So let's look at the insinuations. He mentioned "at least one more deep dive super deluxe", so there might not be more of those after that. To me that's very disappointing. All albums should have a deep dive super deluxe, either with Sony or WB.

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Also... when asked about his favourite Prince track, he mentioned it changes on a day to day basis, but then mentioned Sometimes It Snows In April. Since he doesn't have one track that's especially relevant to him he picked something top of mind, probably something he's been working on. To me, it is yet another indication that the next SDE is most likely Parade.

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As to what the other release of the year might be... no indications. There's no plan though for anything more sad

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I wish they would start "general releases" and "superfan only" releases already. If only so they can then make some decisions based on artistic merit, not thinking about the marketability and put all the packaging and marketing effort into the "commercial" release of the year. Add a subscription model for the fan stuff and you add another, predictable revenue stream. It's probably also the only way they'd start releasing stuff not from the 80s.

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Reply #95 posted 01/24/21 2:29am

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mediumdry said:

I wish they would start "general releases" and "superfan only" releases already. If only so they can then make some decisions based on artistic merit, not thinking about the marketability and put all the packaging and marketing effort into the "commercial" release of the year. Add a subscription model for the fan stuff and you add another, predictable revenue stream. It's probably also the only way they'd start releasing stuff not from the 80s.

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If they were after the money they'd have done this by now.

But they do not aim for profit maximization.

Not at all.

That is unprofessionalism exposed.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #96 posted 02/17/21 2:52am

andrewm7

I reckon it would be great if there was a box set of 3121 Antello road and 77 Beverly Park Lane live recordings at Prince’s house. Some of those performances with Ceelo Green, Larry Graham, Stevie Wonder make me very curious.

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Reply #97 posted 02/18/21 2:01am

jfenster

My interpretation is that no one really knows anything
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Reply #98 posted 02/18/21 2:38am

funkbabyandthe
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i think they pressed too many copies of the SOTT sets

so they are prob figuring out how to do it next time

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Reply #99 posted 02/18/21 4:38am

jfenster

OperatingThetan said:

LILpoundCAKE said:



nayroo2002 said:


What would be a "stand-alone album" that didn't evolve into something already released???




He obviously picked and mixed tracks from ongoing projects to see what made the best album to his taste at that point. But I would say that any album that contains less than 3 'released on another album later' tracks can be considered a stand alone album imo no matter if it's from 1991 or 2011.




Exactly. And Prince talked about 'time capsule' albums he'd made that could later be released. For example, The Beautiful Strange album from 98, among many others.




The prince and the revolution/ time/ vanity 6 albums also
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Reply #100 posted 02/18/21 9:40pm

paraded

Here's a thought. If Warners still owns the soundtrack albums, that makes it 4 more albums they control. So wouldn't we likely see 4 more super deluxes from them over the next 4 years? Something like:

2021: Parade (35th Anniversary)

2022: Graffiti Bridge

2023: Batman

2024: Purple Rain (40th Anniversary)

Sorry if this exact question has been brought up (I just couldn't find it). But I have a feeling they were *extremely* calculating in terms of releasing 1999 and SOTT when they did, knowing that they still had several more years of momentum to build up to PR in 2024.

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Reply #101 posted 02/18/21 9:56pm

lustmealways

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howe do you sleep at night

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Reply #102 posted 02/19/21 12:37am

JorisE73

paraded said:

Here's a thought. If Warners still owns the soundtrack albums, that makes it 4 more albums they control. So wouldn't we likely see 4 more super deluxes from them over the next 4 years? Something like:

2021: Parade (35th Anniversary)

2022: Graffiti Bridge

2023: Batman

2024: Purple Rain (40th Anniversary)

Sorry if this exact question has been brought up (I just couldn't find it). But I have a feeling they were *extremely* calculating in terms of releasing 1999 and SOTT when they did, knowing that they still had several more years of momentum to build up to PR in 2024.


I wonder what this means for Girl 6

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Reply #103 posted 02/19/21 3:19am

RODSERLING

JorisE73 said:



paraded said:


Here's a thought. If Warners still owns the soundtrack albums, that makes it 4 more albums they control. So wouldn't we likely see 4 more super deluxes from them over the next 4 years? Something like:



2021: Parade (35th Anniversary)


2022: Graffiti Bridge


2023: Batman


2024: Purple Rain (40th Anniversary)



Sorry if this exact question has been brought up (I just couldn't find it). But I have a feeling they were *extremely* calculating in terms of releasing 1999 and SOTT when they did, knowing that they still had several more years of momentum to build up to PR in 2024.




I wonder what this means for Girl 6



The same as for Come, The Black Album, Exodus, Kamasutra, etc.
Nobody owns this.
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Reply #104 posted 02/19/21 5:33am

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paraded said:

Here's a thought. If Warners still owns the soundtrack albums, that makes it 4 more albums they control. So wouldn't we likely see 4 more super deluxes from them over the next 4 years? Something like:



2021: Parade (35th Anniversary)


2022: Graffiti Bridge


2023: Batman


2024: Purple Rain (40th Anniversary)



Sorry if this exact question has been brought up (I just couldn't find it). But I have a feeling they were *extremely* calculating in terms of releasing 1999 and SOTT when they did, knowing that they still had several more years of momentum to build up to PR in 2024.




ANyway no Parade this year!
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Reply #105 posted 02/19/21 3:51pm

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RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:



paraded said:


Here's a thought. If Warners still owns the soundtrack albums, that makes it 4 more albums they control. So wouldn't we likely see 4 more super deluxes from them over the next 4 years? Something like:



2021: Parade (35th Anniversary)


2022: Graffiti Bridge


2023: Batman


2024: Purple Rain (40th Anniversary)



Sorry if this exact question has been brought up (I just couldn't find it). But I have a feeling they were *extremely* calculating in terms of releasing 1999 and SOTT when they did, knowing that they still had several more years of momentum to build up to PR in 2024.




I wonder what this means for Girl 6



The same as for Come, The Black Album, Exodus, Kamasutra, etc.
Nobody owns this.


Oh man, sign me up NOW For Kamasutra Superdeluxe!!
biggrin biggrin
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Reply #106 posted 02/19/21 3:57pm

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wouldn't it be funny if wb did parade and sony did d&p and every year we had two sde's and they had to compete with each other

this would be so funny. they should totally do that. it would be so funny. they'd really be showing each other, i'll tell you that much

do it

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Reply #107 posted 02/19/21 5:12pm

funkaholic1972

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lustmealways said:

Howe do you sleep at night

lol lol lol

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #108 posted 02/19/21 5:36pm

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lustmealways said:

howe do you sleep at night


On piles of our money eek lol
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Reply #109 posted 02/20/21 2:48am

Romeoblu

Duane seems to be hinting about a release coming soon on his Face Book page.

"Something Funky This house Comes"

Then a picture of what looks like a studio Record but only showing Prince and the first part of a song title "House".

Nothing more.

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Reply #110 posted 02/20/21 2:55am

funkaholic1972

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Romeoblu said:

Duane seems to be hinting about a release coming soon on his Face Book page.

"Something Funky This house Comes"

Then a picture of what looks like a studio Record but only showing Prince and the first part of a song title "House".

Nothing more.

A re-release of the Chaka album he did around 1998? lol

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #111 posted 02/20/21 3:32am

LILpoundCAKE

funkaholic1972 said:

Romeoblu said:

Duane seems to be hinting about a release coming soon on his Face Book page.

"Something Funky This house Comes"

Then a picture of what looks like a studio Record but only showing Prince and the first part of a song title "House".

Nothing more.

A re-release of the Chaka album he did around 1998? lol


"Something Funky This House Comes" is a Diamonds & Pearls session track so that might be confirmation then that we're getting a D&P SDE.


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Reply #112 posted 02/20/21 3:32am

Romeoblu

I think it could be his book. But we knew that was coming soon.
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Reply #113 posted 02/20/21 3:35am

LILpoundCAKE

Romeoblu said:

Duane seems to be hinting about a release coming soon on his Face Book page.

"Something Funky This house Comes"

Then a picture of what looks like a studio Record but only showing Prince and the first part of a song title "House".

Nothing more.


However, I can't see anything like that on either his FB or Twitter, so.... boxed


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Reply #114 posted 02/20/21 3:57am

Romeoblu

LILpoundCAKE said:

Romeoblu said:

Duane seems to be hinting about a release coming soon on his Face Book page.

"Something Funky This house Comes"

Then a picture of what looks like a studio Record but only showing Prince and the first part of a song title "House".

Nothing more.


However, I can't see anything like that on either his FB or Twitter, so.... boxed


it was posted in his studio sessions book group.

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Reply #115 posted 02/20/21 4:03am

LILpoundCAKE

Romeoblu said:

LILpoundCAKE said:


However, I can't see anything like that on either his FB or Twitter, so.... boxed


it was posted in his studio sessions book group.


ah ok, I see, cool. interesting bit of information cool

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Reply #116 posted 02/20/21 4:17am

FrankieCoco1

Checked the publisher site for Duane’s book, appears to be June release but think best to await the official announcement.

https://rowman.com/ISBN/9...5-and-1986
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #117 posted 02/20/21 8:29am

lustmealways

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on the surface i would expect this to be about his book but he went out of his way to reference the stunningly perfect diamonds and pearls outtake. what's going on

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Reply #118 posted 02/20/21 9:17am

LILpoundCAKE

lustmealways said:

on the surface i would expect this to be about his book but he went out of his way to reference the stunningly perfect diamonds and pearls outtake. what's going on


LOVE that track dancing jig the sound of the cloud guitar is perfect, the rapping is nice, rosie sounds great, the elisa (?) sample (?) is smooth, the bass n drums are wild. Granted, it sounds kinda like it's 80% samples and loops but still it's amazing how this did not make the cut and Jughead did. Prince could have featured on it with one of those raps and it would be one of my fav tracks on the album. eek


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Reply #119 posted 02/20/21 9:23am

LILpoundCAKE

just listen to the 1st version and then the later version back to back over and over, man the energy of this song is SO sexy and SO fcking I don't know so, so, so Gangster Glam, I guess lol


yeah, this shoulds have been somewhere in that era if not on the album at least on a single, lord knows he released about 287 versions of songs on those singles for that album.


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