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Crystal Ball tour ideas? am currently watching the SOTT concert film and thought of a hypothetical:
it’s 1987. Prince is given the green light to release Crystal Ball, a triple-LP album. to promote the album, the Crystal Ball tour (and for the sake of the argument, we’ll say concert film too) is launched. how would this compare to the SOTT tour/movie? concert intro with Rebirth of the Flesh instead of SOTT? Camille-based skits similar to how Bob George was done on the Lovesexy tour? The Ball/Joy in Repetition played together live? possibly even the song “Crystal Ball” being done live? would love to hear what other peoples ideas are towards this. been wondering about this since i first heard of an alternate, longer version of SOTT. [Edited 1/9/21 0:14am] | |
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Sounds cool...
I don't know about Crystal Ball, the song, in concert, though.
Can you imagine sitting there through that song for 12 minutes at a concert? Prince would have had to have a lot of visual things going on either on a video screen or on stage or he would have had to shorten the song... At a concert, people want to sing-along or be visually wowed. That song is more of an experience that you sort of drink in at home or in a car on a drive.
I would have liked to have heard Joy In Repetition live. I've only seen P 4 times and I don't remember him doing that song, one of my favorites, live. | |
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. I'd rather have that than the endless pointless "jams" he did in the last two decades of his career. . (Why the fuck did he play a fifteen minute long jam on a 1970s disco tune with all those useless "backup singers" shouting bollocks and him shouting "I got too many hits"?) © Bart Van Hemelen
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BartVanHemelen said:
. I'd rather have that than the endless pointless "jams" he did in the last two decades of his career. . (Why the fuck did he play a fifteen minute long jam on a 1970s disco tune with all those useless "backup singers" shouting bollocks and him shouting "I got too many hits"?) |
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williamb610 said: Sounds cool...
I don't know about Crystal Ball, the song, in concert, though.
Can you imagine sitting there through that song for 12 minutes at a concert? Prince would have had to have a lot of visual things going on either on a video screen or on stage or he would have had to shorten the song... At a concert, people want to sing-along or be visually wowed. That song is more of an experience that you sort of drink in at home or in a car on a drive.
I would have liked to have heard Joy In Repetition live. I've only seen P 4 times and I don't remember him doing that song, one of my favorites, live. i would have to agree that Crystal Ball is much more of a fantastic studio venture than it would be a live performance. if the released version (from the CB box set) would be what was released in 1987, it for sure wouldn’t work, especially with the orchestral overdubs. had he rolled with the (superior) “Purple Underground” version, though, maybe it could work its way into the concert. maybe even in sections like how the 7” edit on the SOTT SDE was done. it would be strange, after all, to go to the “Crystal Ball” concert and not hear the song “Crystal Ball” at all. i really dig the idea of The Ball/Joy in Repetition live though. having heard live versions of 👁 No and the aftershow version of JIR really makes me wish we could have heard these two tracks live. like on Lovesexy live in Dortmund, hearing the horns at the end of 👁 No not segue into Alphabet St. or especially JIR sounds awkward; plus, having listened to the Crystal Ball album bootleg much more than i would like to admit, i just love the transition. “The Ball” seems like such a fun track to do live; it’s really just a huge jam and would make for a great track for the audience to dig. [Edited 1/9/21 22:35pm] | |
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LOL
Prince too often was intent of grooving, instead of slowing down to really simmer out of song
1987 for me (Dream Factory/Crystal Ball) with a larger band | |
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I think an album of music needs more musicians. and less dancing/focused vocalist
I'm going to try hard not to sway from the idea, but whether it is Dream Factory/Camille or Crystal Ball... Instead of breaking up the Revolution, I would have more expansion to focus on the quality and craft of the music.
The Revolution (yes with Brown Mark) Jerome Benton, Susannah Melvoin, Cat Glover, Jill Jones -vocalists Eddie M Eric Leads Atlanta Bliss -horns(flutes) David Coleman, Suzi Katayama, Novi Novog -strings Sheila E. Juan Escovedo Jonathan Melvoin(possibly) percussion
(I would need Madhouse to still happen but with a band that didn't have to jump back in forth between bands)
This is similar to what I wish he did in 1985 with ATWIAD. Instead of of a concert having smaller shows, sometime an appearance doing a full rendering of ATIAD or Condition of the Heart. No rush to jam.
With 1987 he could have a concert set, but more off-tour shows. Do 3-4 songs fully rendered pieces. | |
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Imagine if he had performed the title track with a backing orchestra, breaking it down to lone kickdrum and so forth... as a crazy epic performance at a televised awards show? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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I was actually watching some W2A footage last night and while I love looking back on that tour (my first & only Prince shows) I have to agree. It did mark some return to form in regards to overall presentation - but god damn those covers & jams - That being said I would do anything just to hear an aimless 15 minute jam and a famous "too many hits" again [Edited 1/10/21 13:14pm]  | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
I think an album of music needs more musicians. and less dancing/focused vocalist
I'm going to try hard not to sway from the idea, but whether it is Dream Factory/Camille or Crystal Ball... Instead of breaking up the Revolution, I would have more expansion to focus on the quality and craft of the music.
The Revolution (yes with Brown Mark) Jerome Benton, Susannah Melvoin, Cat Glover, Jill Jones -vocalists Eddie M Eric Leads Atlanta Bliss -horns(flutes) David Coleman, Suzi Katayama, Novi Novog -strings Sheila E. Juan Escovedo Jonathan Melvoin(possibly) percussion
(I would need Madhouse to still happen but with a band that didn't have to jump back in forth between bands)
This is similar to what I wish he did in 1985 with ATWIAD. Instead of of a concert having smaller shows, sometime an appearance doing a full rendering of ATIAD or Condition of the Heart. No rush to jam.
With 1987 he could have a concert set, but more off-tour shows. Do 3-4 songs fully rendered pieces. correct me if i’m wrong, but didn’t prince start going in that direction on the parade tour? like adding eric, eddie, miko, sheila, etc. and wasn’t that what lead to much tension in the revolution and then them breaking up going into 1987? i do like this idea tho. i think prince sacrificed the musicality of the revolution in order to produce a much more entertaining live show. i mean, the revolution couldn’t last forever. as good as dream factory would have been as an album (all my dreams is probably a top ten prince song of all time imo), idk how well they would have gotten along on another tour with the members of the sott-lovesexy band. would be a phenomenal display of prince’s musicality and showmanship, though. | |
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