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Reply #60 posted 01/08/21 5:36pm

TrivialPursuit

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MattyJam said:

Who Is It, In The Closet, Jam, Will You Be There and Give Into Me >>> anything on D&P or Love Symbol.


I just tweeted today that the 2nd side of Dangerous is an album unto itself.

Black or White

Give In To me

Who Is It

Will You Be There

Keep The Faith

Gone Too Soon

Dangerous

That's a winner right there. I'm not a huge fan of "Can't Let Her Get Away" or "Heal The World." So the first side falters a tad, not that "Remember The Time," "In the Closet" or "Jam" are bad songs. And the rhythm of "Why You Wanna Trip On Me" is infectious.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #61 posted 01/08/21 5:47pm

looby

No.

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Reply #62 posted 01/08/21 6:02pm

TurnItUp

MattyJam said:

RODSERLING said:

Anytime an MJ fan wants to discover Prince, I advise him D&P. And it works. It s a very accessible album, in the same vein of what MJ did throughout his whole carreer.

I'm an MJ fan and I think D&P is a ropey old pile of shit. lol

Ha Ha lol very funny. At least Prince doesn't have a mockumentary with two liars saying he molested them when they were children ten years after he left this earth.

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Reply #63 posted 01/10/21 1:38pm

TrevorAyer

gett off destroys beat it and dirty diana for badass guitar licks

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Reply #64 posted 01/11/21 12:48am

TrivialPursuit

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TrevorAyer said:

"Gett off" destroys "Beat It" and "Dirty Diana" for badass guitar licks.


Well... "Gett Off" is a funk workout. "Beat It" and "Dirty Diana" are rock songs. "Gett Off" is guitar noodling and soloing. The other two are pointedly in your face with their respective guitar parts.

That's like saying, "Something In The Water" is a better ballad than "Human Nature" and "I Just Can't Stop Loving You."

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #65 posted 01/11/21 5:42pm

TrevorAyer

something in the water is one of my favorite things prince ever did .. i liked michael when i was a preteen and dont really care for his stuff anymore so ...

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Reply #66 posted 01/13/21 9:18am

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MattyJam said:

Who Is It, In The Closet, Jam, Will You Be There and Give Into Me >>> anything on D&P or Love Symbol.

.I like Who Is It and In The Closet for what they are but.... stoned

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Reply #67 posted 01/13/21 1:12pm

RJOrion
Dangerous > Diamonds & Pearls

Love Symbol > Dangerous
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Reply #68 posted 01/13/21 9:21pm

Free2BMe

lurker316 said:



thebanishedone said:




Wolfie87 said:


thebanishedone said: ...and I can't believe this hasn't been up for discussion in the media before. It's an blatant ripoff actually. Sure, Teddy did his THE FUTURE sound quite remarkable in this release. But come on, it's totally Rhythm Nation 2.0

i don't think it is.while Michael was going for sisters street sound,her sound was an updated Minneapolis sound.i don't hear mplsound on Dangerous




This.


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I agree.
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Reply #69 posted 01/13/21 9:31pm

Free2BMe

skywalker said:



MattyJam said:


Who Is It, In The Closet, Jam, Will You Be There and Give Into Me >>> anything on D&P or Love Symbol.


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Ugh. Go home. The song "7" , all by it's lonesome self, is more of an anthemic genius of a song than any of these.



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I mean, I looooove Michael Jackson*, but you are way overstating things here. Teddy Riley's version of Michael Jackson is NOT where it's at.


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Plus, you ever notice that "Why You Wanna trip on me" is a straight up zombie clone of Batdance's funk?





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Who is it: The best of these songs. Still MJ trying to recapture that Billie Jean magic and the exact same thematically with the lyrics.


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In the Closet. Cringey. Did MJ even know what "In the closet" meant? Either he outsmarted himself, or he was impossibly naieve. The video makes it worse. It's not sexy, it's MJ fake posturing, and kinda creepy.


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Will You be there: Ugh. Smalzy and another stab at the same old "We are the world" "Man in the mirror" thing that he just kept repeating. The album version is the worst went he does his woe is me poem at the end and fake cries (again).


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Give in to me. Again, repeating himself. Dirty Diana part 2, any one? MJ formula: Hire the "hip" rock guitar player at the time and do some rock and roll posturing.



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Don't get me wrong. I actually like these songs. Yet, they are MJ doing the same ol' thing and they are not the songs I'd hold up as being "great." I sure as hell wouldn't make the claim that they were better than any thing on Diamonds and Pearls and prince.


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I mean, Prince gets accused for chasing trends with some of the stuff on these albums, but at least he wasn't still using his same old tired formula and "hot" producers and passing them off as "new."


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Just wanted to say that “In The Closet” had nothing to do with what people THOUGHT. If you notice in the video, Michael wore a wedding band, something that he had never done before. Most IN THE KNOW people felt it was about his relationship and subsequent marriage to Lisa Marie. Michael was the King of Metaphors and a LOT of his songs had “double meanings”. I always thought it was hilarious how so-called “critics” couldn’t understand that fact and MOST of the time, got it wrong in their “reviews”.
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Reply #70 posted 01/14/21 1:38am

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Um no.... try listening to Prince's Darling Nikki and MJ's Dirty Diana they sound more similar then D&P's IMHO
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #71 posted 01/17/21 4:05am

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toots said:

Um no.... try listening to Prince's Darling Nikki and MJ's Dirty Diana they sound more similar then D&P's IMHO

those two songs have 0 similarities except the fact that both are rock songs

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Reply #72 posted 01/17/21 12:37pm

RODSERLING

thebanishedone said:



toots said:


Um no.... try listening to Prince's Darling Nikki and MJ's Dirty Diana they sound more similar then D&P's IMHO

those two songs have 0 similarities except the fact that both are rock songs



Two songs About groupies, and with live sound.
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Reply #73 posted 01/31/21 2:35pm

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thebanishedone said:

toots said:

Um no.... try listening to Prince's Darling Nikki and MJ's Dirty Diana they sound more similar then D&P's IMHO

those two songs have 0 similarities except the fact that both are rock songs


Similar subject matter, but the sound is completely different. They are not akin sonically. One taunts, one cries plaintively. One is more straight forward, the other slinks and grooves.

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Reply #74 posted 01/31/21 5:23pm

Purplegarden

No, it sounds like a Prince album - but Prince trying to capture the youth market of the era. Lots of pop and pop rap songs with some poor attempts at rap.

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In many ways Dangerous was the much better album and it came out much later than D and P. Parts of D and P were written in 1989, way before Dangerous and only small pieces of it even date from 1991.

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Michael Jackson sounds like Michael Jackson. Still both albums did their job, 15 year old me loved pop rap and pop songs and in those days my taste in rap still realised Tony M was awful - but still better than Vanilla Ice or Icy Blu.

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Reply #75 posted 02/01/21 8:01am

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Purplegarden said:

No, it sounds like a Prince album - but Prince trying to capture the youth market of the era. Lots of pop and pop rap songs with some poor attempts at rap.

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In many ways Dangerous was the much better album and it came out much later than D and P. Parts of D and P were written in 1989, way before Dangerous and only small pieces of it even date from 1991.

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Michael Jackson sounds like Michael Jackson. Still both albums did their job, 15 year old me loved pop rap and pop songs and in those days my taste in rap still realised Tony M was awful - but still better than Vanilla Ice or Icy Blu.

prince

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"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #76 posted 02/01/21 8:03am

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Purplegarden said:

No, it sounds like a Prince album - but Prince trying to capture the youth market of the era. Lots of pop and pop rap songs with some poor attempts at rap.

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In many ways Dangerous was the much better album and it came out much later than D and P. Parts of D and P were written in 1989, way before Dangerous and only small pieces of it even date from 1991.

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Michael Jackson sounds like Michael Jackson. Still both albums did their job, 15 year old me loved pop rap and pop songs and in those days my taste in rap still realised Tony M was awful - but still better than Vanilla Ice or Icy Blu.

Damon Dickerson confirmed that D&P was finished during The Nude Tour.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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