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Reply #30 posted 12/14/20 7:40pm

lurker316

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1. Love 2 the 9s (minus the middle portion with Tony quizzing Mayte)

2. The Max (kinda cheesy, but catchy as hell)

3. The Flow (I realize I'm in the minority for enjoying this song)

4. 7 (Accoustic Version... the album version is over-produced)

5. And God Created Woman (I agree with the person upthread who says this is the one song where Prince was simply trying to write a good song rather than trying to prove something)

6. The Sacrifice of Victor

I'm on the fence about a few other songs which I think are only okay. I'd pick from these to bring it up to 45 minutes and sequence it accordingly:

The Morning Papers
I Wanna Melt With U
The Continental (just the first half -- I'd cut off How U Wanna B Done as Trivial Pursuit suggested)

I think the worst song on the album is 3 Chains of Gold.

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Reply #31 posted 12/14/20 9:41pm

RODSERLING

Damn U and Sweet Baby are among the worst song Prince ever wrote.
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Reply #32 posted 12/14/20 11:25pm

TrivialPursuit

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RODSERLING said:

Damn U and Sweet Baby are among the worst song Prince ever wrote.


Said no one ever.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #33 posted 12/14/20 11:25pm

funkbabyandthe
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Sweet baby is beautiful. One of the few songs I believe where prince just writes about caring for another person without sex being involved.
Damn u is lovely but i wish the lyrics weren't just another damn baby you're so fine thing. I think I like extraordinary more.
The best days of my life part of 3 chains... never fails to sound good for some reason.
[Edited 12/14/20 23:26pm]
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Reply #34 posted 12/14/20 11:38pm

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Sweet baby is beautiful.
Damn u is brilliantly sung but the lyrics are just another damn baby you're so fine yawn fest. I think I like extraordinary more.
The best days of my life part of 3 chains... never fails to sound good for some reason.
[Edited 12/14/20 23:26pm]

3 chains of gold is a Bohemian Rhapsody pastiche, but at least i ts entertaining.
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Reply #35 posted 12/14/20 11:41pm

RODSERLING

TrivialPursuit said:



RODSERLING said:


Damn U and Sweet Baby are among the worst song Prince ever wrote.


Said no one ever.



Said no one neither.
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Reply #36 posted 12/15/20 12:14am

funkbabyandthe
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Rod you're too much of a hard man. You need to embrace your softer side
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Reply #37 posted 12/15/20 4:40am

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Rod you're too much of a hard man. You need to embrace your softer side
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Too much of an hard man?
You re the one wanting to cut 30 minutes to a very good album eek
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Reply #38 posted 12/15/20 4:53am

funkbabyandthe
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In the 90s most albums became too long because of cds
Diamonds and Pearl's, love symbol and gold were not immune.
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Reply #39 posted 12/15/20 5:12am

jaawwnn

I'm cutting it down to 37 minutes:

1) I Wanna Melt With U
2) Sexy MF
3) Sweet Baby
4) The Max
5) And God Created Woman
6) The Continental
7) Love 2 the 9's
8) 7


makes about as much sense as the album as it already stands. shrug

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Reply #40 posted 12/15/20 5:14am

Empress

TrivialPursuit said:

RODSERLING said:

Damn U and Sweet Baby are among the worst song Prince ever wrote.


Said no one ever.

No kidding rolleyes I wouldn't change a damn thing on this album. It rocks from start to finish.

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Reply #41 posted 12/15/20 5:21am

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

In the 90s most albums became too long because of cds
Diamonds and Pearl's, love symbol and gold were not immune.


Too long for you!
But you knew that on CD you could skip songs you don't like?
So in the end, I prefer that clunkers such as Damn U stay on the disc, because I skipped them so often, that when I listen to it, I m not that bored.
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Reply #42 posted 12/15/20 5:30am

Rimshottbob

This is the album where I came in. It blew my mind with its versatility, its musicianship, its sense of fun and adventure, its cheekiness, its imagination, its balls-out craziness. You couldn't even pronounce its title!

I wouldn't change a thing about it... cutting it down is to entirely miss the point of its arc, its slim narrative and its adherence to excess. That excess and great depth and breadth are WHY the album works so well....

It's a brilliant album, through and through.

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Reply #43 posted 12/15/20 6:27am

rednblue

Damn, this controversy over damn u!

LOVE Damn U and Sweet Baby heart heart heart

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Reply #44 posted 12/15/20 6:53am

funkbabyandthe
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RODSERLING said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

In the 90s most albums became too long because of cds
Diamonds and Pearl's, love symbol and gold were not immune.


Too long for you!
But you knew that on CD you could skip songs you don't like?
So in the end, I prefer that clunkers such as Damn U stay on the disc, because I skipped them so often, that when I listen to it, I m not that bored.


Hold on
So you could skip tracks?
Wtf.
Mind blown.
Thank you for this revelation
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Reply #45 posted 12/15/20 8:18am

RJOrion

RODSERLING said:

Shut this thread down please.

word... seriously

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Reply #46 posted 12/15/20 8:19am

RJOrion

RODSERLING said:

Damn U and Sweet Baby are among the worst song Prince ever wrote.

you all the way outta your mind

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Reply #47 posted 12/15/20 8:51am

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FanAllMyLife said:

jdcxc said:

Better album than DP and you lost ALL credibility by removing the forever funky Sexy MF from the album. šŸ˜

I agree, he lost ALL credibility smile Much better album than D&P. I wanna Melt with U is sickkkk. I think he released the wrong version of My Name is Prince. There is a great outtake of it that blows away the version he put on the album.

Which outtake are you referring to?

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Reply #48 posted 12/15/20 9:48am

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Rimshottbob said:

This is the album where I came in. It blew my mind with its versatility, its musicianship, its sense of fun and adventure, its cheekiness, its imagination, its balls-out craziness. You couldn't even pronounce its title!

I wouldn't change a thing about it... cutting it down is to entirely miss the point of its arc, its slim narrative and its adherence to excess. That excess and great depth and breadth are WHY the album works so well....

It's a brilliant album, through and through.

All of the above, and most of all.....that big, fat, warm, super sound. I just love the sonic quality of this album. That bass right at the beginning of And God Created Woman, the smoothness of Damn U, it just sounds so great.

" IĀ“d rather be a stank ass hoe because IĀ“m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! IĀ“m always funny dude...IĀ“m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #49 posted 12/15/20 9:54am

Empress

KoolEaze said:

Rimshottbob said:

This is the album where I came in. It blew my mind with its versatility, its musicianship, its sense of fun and adventure, its cheekiness, its imagination, its balls-out craziness. You couldn't even pronounce its title!

I wouldn't change a thing about it... cutting it down is to entirely miss the point of its arc, its slim narrative and its adherence to excess. That excess and great depth and breadth are WHY the album works so well....

It's a brilliant album, through and through.

All of the above, and most of all.....that big, fat, warm, super sound. I just love the sonic quality of this album. That bass right at the beginning of And God Created Woman, the smoothness of Damn U, it just sounds so great.

Yes, it does. The entire album is awesome!

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Reply #50 posted 12/15/20 10:20am

emesem

I love Sweet Baby. It got me through some rough patches.

TrivialPursuit said:

RODSERLING said:

Damn U and Sweet Baby are among the worst song Prince ever wrote.


Said no one ever.

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Reply #51 posted 12/15/20 10:52am

jasopig

... it would be worse.

Next.

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Reply #52 posted 12/15/20 11:00am

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

RODSERLING said:



Too long for you!
But you knew that on CD you could skip songs you don't like?
So in the end, I prefer that clunkers such as Damn U stay on the disc, because I skipped them so often, that when I listen to it, I m not that bored.


Hold on
So you could skip tracks?
Wtf.
Mind blown.
Thank you for this revelation


Yes, that's why this whole topic is irrelevant in the CD era.
See the many tracks you can't bear as extra bonus tracks, that is better to get than not, as a fan.
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Even if it s to hear pieces of boring crap such as Damn U and Sweet Baby.
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Reply #53 posted 12/15/20 11:26am

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Ditch nothing. Keep everyone. One of his finest, most eclectic works. Top 5 album for me.
(Insert something clever here)
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Reply #54 posted 12/15/20 11:55am

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KoolEaze said:

that big, fat, warm, super sound. I just love the sonic quality of this album.


Yeah, this album definately has great production. Wasn't one of the Peterson's in charge of production?

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #55 posted 12/15/20 12:11pm

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funkaholic1972 said:

KoolEaze said:

that big, fat, warm, super sound. I just love the sonic quality of this album.


Yeah, this album definately has great production. Wasn't one of the Peterson's in charge of production?

It isn't mastered very well though, it sounds very compressed now that I took the effort to give it a spin. I am sure this album could sound better with a new mastering.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #56 posted 12/15/20 12:51pm

emesem

No way. Its one the sexiest things Prince ever put on wax:

How you want to be done?
Shall I go in a circle like the merry-go-round
That you and your girlfriends used to ride all up and down
Talk to me baby, (talk to me baby)
Tell me how you want to be done (how you want to be done)
Shall I write the alphabet, (A-B-C-D-E-F-G)
Or shall I just write my name
You tell me, you're the ruler in this telephone game

I could be a slave (oh yeah) (slave)
When it comes down to you
I'll do any and everything you want me to do
You know why? (why?)
'cause I want you to have fun
So how you want to be done? (how you want to be done?)
Baby, how you want to how you want to be done
Just say the word and we can start from number one
And go the distance baby, until you tell me stop
I'll lose myself inside you till you get all I got
Talk to me baby, tell me how you want to be done

I want you to imagine you're making angels
Angels in the snow
And kiss a hundred revolutions nice n' slow
Then I see you on the beat and do a def strip tease
No, no leave the Chanel around your neck
Please baby please
Now do something I've never seen before (how you want to, how you want to be
Crawl over to me on your stomach done)
More baby more

Now pull me down on top of you
And grind really fast (tell me how you want to be done)
Take both hands with all your might
And squeeze my, yeah
Roll me over 'til you're back on top
Then I want you to kiss me until I make you stop
That's how, that's how I want to be done (tell me how you want to be done)

TrivialPursuit said:

prince is a great album. With Tony M. removed, it's shorter in parts. I also remove "Arrogance" and the segues, and resequenced any songs that need it. (I also cut down "The Continental" to remove "Tell Me How U Wanna Be Done.")

Doesn't put it at 45 minutes, but it's more cohesive and quicker. Not that I'm trying to rush it. It's a favorite record. That album got me through poverty and cosmetology school in 1993 (as did janet.).

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Reply #57 posted 12/15/20 12:55pm

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I am also of opinion this album should have been shorter to be better working. So here we go:

Obviously dump all the skits immediately. Dump all the Tony M. bits. That feels mĆŗch better already! lol

Now that we have got that out of the way, let's get rid of some of the lesser tunes: 3 Chains of Gold (although a musically impressive patchwork this song is just too bombastic and was done better before by Queen) / I Wanna Melt With U (throwaway dance track) / The Flow (just awful) / Sweet Baby (not a bad song perse but too siruppy sweet for me)

Now it gets tricky though. Ideally I would leave it at this:

1. My Name Is Prince

2. Sexy MF

3. Love 2 the 9's

4. The Morning Papers

5. The Max

6. Blue Light

7. The Continental

8. Damn U

9. Arrogance

10. 7

11. And God Created Woman

12. The Sacrifice Of Victor


This track list adds up to about 55 minutes, so that is 10 minutes too long for this challenge. So with some pain in my heart I will leave out The Max and Blue Light. I've grown to love them both but they are kinda cheesy really.


Final track list:


1. My Name Is Prince

2. Sexy MF

3. Love 2 the 9's

4. The Morning Papers

5. The Continental

6. Damn U
7. Arrogance

8. 7

9. And God Created Woman

10. The Sacrifice Of Victor

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #58 posted 12/15/20 1:19pm

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We can try, we can try, but nothing can hide the fact that there just aren't many good songs on this album. My Name Is Prince, Sexy MF, The Max, I Wanna Melt With U, The Continental, The Flow, Arrogance: they're all about beats, grooves and poses and trying to be a big badass motherfucker. (Even though the band sounds great on Sexy MF.)
Love 2 the 9s is cool, I like how it changes in the middle of the song.
The Morning Papers would have been nice if it had a better chorus than Shanananananana.
And don't get me started on the "look ma, I can do reggae too!" and "look ma, I can do a rock opera too!"
I don't know why, but he was trying to show off with this album and that's why everything feels so forced and overblown. Maybe because he realized that his days as an innovator were behind him and tried to make up for that by showing how many genres he could do and how great a musician he was? Or maybe because he thought, I have this great band behind me, I've got a big studio, I just had a hit album, I can do whatever the fuck I want!
So what does that leave us with? Damn U, Sweet Baby and And God Created Woman are nice ballads. In The Sacrifice of Victor he is finally telling us a real story backed by some very funky music.
Not much for a 70 minute album...
[Edited 12/15/20 13:23pm]
If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #59 posted 12/15/20 1:34pm

funkbabyandthe
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basically this is right:

there just aren't many good songs on this album

i love sweet baby for instance but actually, it feels underwritten.

the max has some good piano pounding, but even that seems to not go anywhere.

love 2 the 9s is cool for all the changes, but im not sure it adds up to that much.

that said, i still enjoy this album. it has good riffs, prince is having fun, there are great band moments, some great vocals, but sometimes he seemed to lose interest in a song and coast on the band or his playing to keep the song going.

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