Thread started 11/17/20 11:06pmfunkbabyandthe babysitters
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prince used the term brother alot in songs after 96 yet not the term sister Curious.
I think he might have used brother more in his songs than any other rnb/soul artist of the time in fact (understandably, considering these were no longer mainstream terms, yet arguably further evidence of his mid life crisis). If you did some sort of Google search count, I'm sure he would be up there.
But I dont think he ever referred to sisters, oddly.
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Reply #1 posted 11/17/20 11:17pm
ludwig
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Well, you obviously haven't listened to his song "Stare". [Edited 11/17/20 23:17pm] |
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/20 12:35am
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I dunno, I hear brother more as a term just in general so maybe it is just a more commonly used term overall. On a side note though, you definitely never at a loss for thread premises lol [Edited 11/18/20 0:38am] |
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Reply #3 posted 11/18/20 2:02am
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ForceofNature said:
I dunno, I hear brother more as a term just in general so maybe it is just a more commonly used term overall. On a side note though, you definitely never at a loss for thread premises lol
[Edited 11/18/20 0:38am]
lockdown has given me more time than i perhaps wanted to consider these important matters lol |
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Reply #4 posted 11/18/20 3:43am
SexyMuthaF |
He never released a song titled Brother now did he. |
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Reply #6 posted 11/18/20 6:49am
ludwig
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http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=Friend,_Lover,_Sister,_Mother/Wife |
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Reply #7 posted 11/18/20 8:43am
Reply #8 posted 11/18/20 11:39am
Phase3 |
SexyMuthaF said: He never released a song titled Brother now did he. But he did release a song called Brother with a purpose. |
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Reply #9 posted 11/18/20 12:10pm
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RJOrion said:
is this a joke?
not at all.
it warrants our analysis. |
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Reply #10 posted 11/18/20 12:35pm
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I can't think of a song that uses "brother" after 96 except Wedding Feast. admittedly, I did about 3 seconds of research. |
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Reply #11 posted 11/18/20 1:21pm
dodger |
billymeade said: I can't think of a song that uses "brother" after 96 except Wedding Feast. admittedly, I did about 3 seconds of research. Off the top of my head Prettyman does . Random thread |
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Reply #12 posted 11/18/20 1:41pm
Reply #13 posted 11/18/20 2:38pm
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So first I need a picture of your mother To verify the fact that there's not another One in the universe so supreme Damn, you got the rock to give a brotha cream (Cream)
They were bound to find each other He needed proof, she needed a brother That’s when stars collide
"I'm gon' tap, tap, tap" But should I keep this party going? "Brother you know that!"
Every waking hour will soon be spent kissin' each other Angelic sisters and brothers Clap your hands for one another, we'll be havin'
Afternoon in the city, somewhere in July Policemen acting, yeah, you know, de-elevate a brotha's high
If she ain't makin' bank & scared of what a brotha got 2 say (Ow) She want the B-O-X a chocolate everyday
Ripopgodazippa, Ripopgodazippa, A few flick of da pink plush, and this brotha trippa
Mad sex {x2} Steppin’ up on the others tryin’ 2 make a jealous brotha Get u nothin’ but another night of vibration One nation under your groove and still u can’t break my cool I see u at another party
And if you're lookin' for the brotha that'll treat You like anything, but a Queen I ain't the one
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Reply #14 posted 11/18/20 2:44pm
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Make a brother yearnin' sista 2 walk on the face
strangely, the lyrics with sister i thought of were pre 90s - last heart and dead on it where he raps "sisters like it when you lick 'em on the knees"
Every time you whip it to the beat, it make a brother just stare Sister, freak me Nobody got a chance
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Reply #16 posted 11/19/20 4:07am
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so from this research, it can be construed that while, as has been written regularly since he died, prince worked with many black women in the latter half of his career, both as singers for his side projects and dancers and stars in his videos (that presumably he wanted to have sex with) and band members and musicians (that he probably didnt, but as they were around, there is a chance he did anyway), he did not address them in the lyrics of his songs. women were not assigned a racial identity as the subject of his affections, while the pursuer of these romantic interests (i.e prince) clearly was racialised.
it can also be suggested that the recurring use of the word brother/brotha in the latter part of princes career was to reinforce and draw attention to his racial identity in his music. often it was not used in a context that implied fraternal comradeship, or racial unity, or religious bonds as could be heard in many black churches or gatherings, simply to remind the listener of princes ancestry. That prince felt this was necesary at this stage in his career indicates something about how he felt about his racial identity, in particular how it may be viewed or how it was being and previously had been projected, and perhaps indicates a self consciousness about the earlier stages of his career when he chose to adopt a more ambiguous attitude to race in various aspects of his output.
end of my dissertation
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Reply #17 posted 11/19/20 7:28am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
so from this research, it can be construed that while, as has been written regularly since he died, prince worked with many black women in the latter half of his career, both as singers for his side projects and dancers and stars in his videos (that presumably he wanted to have sex with) and band members and musicians (that he probably didnt, but as they were around, there is a chance he did anyway), he did not address them in the lyrics of his songs. women were not assigned a racial identity as the subject of his affections, while the pursuer of these romantic interests (i.e prince) clearly was racialised.
it can also be suggested that the recurring use (arguably, often inserted without any real need) of the word brother/brotha in the latter part of princes career was to reinforce and draw attention to his racial identity in his music, in case the listener was not entirely certain whether prince was black. often it was not used in a context that implied fraternal comradeship, or racial unity, or religious bonds as could be heard in many black churches or gatherings, simply to remind the listener of the race of his music's creator. that prince felt this was necesary at this stage in his career indicates something important about how he felt about his racial identity, in particular how it may be viewed or how it was being and previously had been projected, and perhaps indicates a self consciousness about the earlier stages of his career when he chose to adopt a more ambiguous attitude to race in various aspects of his output.
end of my dissertation
[Edited 11/19/20 4:09am]
Proof that one can write any number of words and still say and prove absolutely nothing. |
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Reply #18 posted 11/19/20 7:42am
RJOrion |
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
so from this research, it can be construed that while, as has been written regularly since he died, prince worked with many black women in the latter half of his career, both as singers for his side projects and dancers and stars in his videos (that presumably he wanted to have sex with) and band members and musicians (that he probably didnt, but as they were around, there is a chance he did anyway), he did not address them in the lyrics of his songs. women were not assigned a racial identity as the subject of his affections, while the pursuer of these romantic interests (i.e prince) clearly was racialised.
it can also be suggested that the recurring use (arguably, often inserted without any real need) of the word brother/brotha in the latter part of princes career was to reinforce and draw attention to his racial identity in his music, in case the listener was not entirely certain whether prince was black. often it was not used in a context that implied fraternal comradeship, or racial unity, or religious bonds as could be heard in many black churches or gatherings, simply to remind the listener of the race of his music's creator. that prince felt this was necesary at this stage in his career indicates something important about how he felt about his racial identity, in particular how it may be viewed or how it was being and previously had been projected, and perhaps indicates a self consciousness about the earlier stages of his career when he chose to adopt a more ambiguous attitude to race in various aspects of his output.
end of my dissertation
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Reply #19 posted 11/19/20 7:45am
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Rimshottbob said:
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
so from this research, it can be construed that while, as has been written regularly since he died, prince worked with many black women in the latter half of his career, both as singers for his side projects and dancers and stars in his videos (that presumably he wanted to have sex with) and band members and musicians (that he probably didnt, but as they were around, there is a chance he did anyway), he did not address them in the lyrics of his songs. women were not assigned a racial identity as the subject of his affections, while the pursuer of these romantic interests (i.e prince) clearly was racialised.
it can also be suggested that the recurring use (arguably, often inserted without any real need) of the word brother/brotha in the latter part of princes career was to reinforce and draw attention to his racial identity in his music, in case the listener was not entirely certain whether prince was black. often it was not used in a context that implied fraternal comradeship, or racial unity, or religious bonds as could be heard in many black churches or gatherings, simply to remind the listener of the race of his music's creator. that prince felt this was necesary at this stage in his career indicates something important about how he felt about his racial identity, in particular how it may be viewed or how it was being and previously had been projected, and perhaps indicates a self consciousness about the earlier stages of his career when he chose to adopt a more ambiguous attitude to race in various aspects of his output.
end of my dissertation
[Edited 11/19/20 4:09am]
Proof that one can write any number of words and still say and prove absolutely nothing. Thank you Colombo |
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Reply #20 posted 11/19/20 7:46am
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RJOrion said:
funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
so from this research, it can be construed that while, as has been written regularly since he died, prince worked with many black women in the latter half of his career, both as singers for his side projects and dancers and stars in his videos (that presumably he wanted to have sex with) and band members and musicians (that he probably didnt, but as they were around, there is a chance he did anyway), he did not address them in the lyrics of his songs. women were not assigned a racial identity as the subject of his affections, while the pursuer of these romantic interests (i.e prince) clearly was racialised.
it can also be suggested that the recurring use (arguably, often inserted without any real need) of the word brother/brotha in the latter part of princes career was to reinforce and draw attention to his racial identity in his music, in case the listener was not entirely certain whether prince was black. often it was not used in a context that implied fraternal comradeship, or racial unity, or religious bonds as could be heard in many black churches or gatherings, simply to remind the listener of the race of his music's creator. that prince felt this was necesary at this stage in his career indicates something important about how he felt about his racial identity, in particular how it may be viewed or how it was being and previously had been projected, and perhaps indicates a self consciousness about the earlier stages of his career when he chose to adopt a more ambiguous attitude to race in various aspects of his output.
end of my dissertation
[Edited 11/19/20 4:09am]
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Reply #21 posted 11/19/20 3:09pm
SexyMuthaF |
Damn I tried to forget about brotha with a purpose. |
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Reply #22 posted 11/23/20 1:31am
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as a sidebar to this, interesting that as he got older he took two digs at white women in his music (dinner with delores and black sweat), yet not white men. also interesting considering how many white women were important to his career. |
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Reply #23 posted 11/23/20 2:31am
SexyMuthaF |
I could say something about that but it would be controversial so I wont. |
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Reply #24 posted 11/23/20 2:39am
funkbabyandthe babysitters
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then you have to say it, preferably without using offensive language though. |
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Reply #25 posted 11/23/20 3:40am
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
so from this research, it can be construed that while, as has been written regularly since he died, prince worked with many black women in the latter half of his career, both as singers for his side projects and dancers and stars in his videos (that presumably he wanted to have sex with) and band members and musicians (that he probably didnt, but as they were around, there is a chance he did anyway), he did not address them in the lyrics of his songs. women were not assigned a racial identity as the subject of his affections, while the pursuer of these romantic interests (i.e prince) clearly was racialised.
it can also be suggested that the recurring use of the word brother/brotha in the latter part of princes career was to reinforce and draw attention to his racial identity in his music. often it was not used in a context that implied fraternal comradeship, or racial unity, or religious bonds as could be heard in many black churches or gatherings, simply to remind the listener of princes ancestry. That prince felt this was necesary at this stage in his career indicates something about how he felt about his racial identity, in particular how it may be viewed or how it was being and previously had been projected, and perhaps indicates a self consciousness about the earlier stages of his career when he chose to adopt a more ambiguous attitude to race in various aspects of his output.
end of my dissertation
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