Genesia said:

tab32792 said:

There's really people that don't like his last 4 albums? mind boggling.

When I heard that Prince had let Joshua Welton produce HnR1, that's when I knew something had gone south with the man.

tab32792 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

tab32792 said:

There's really people that don't like his last 4 albums? mind boggling.

Theres ppl that like ALL FOUR? Wow

I like songs on all four, to include ^^^.

sure, theres a handful on each, its just that, for fans, i think a lot of them will be enjoyable, but to convince someone outside, that prince was still making great material in this period, idk how convincing a lot of these loooooong playlists would be. thats what i was thinking when i made my post about a 90s playlist - trying to convince an outsider, rather than just a playlist of songs for fans to play for other fans.

i want to play catch up, but idk if i can bring myself to properly sit through a lot of these songs. there is a lot of music in the world to listen to....

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rednblue said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

rednblue said: Not seen the video for Baltimore But I like free Nelson Mandela Protest songs dont have to be blowing in the wind by Dylan or a change is gonna come or on the more militant side, fuck the police or fight the power I just dont think Baltimore is that special a song though, full stop It sounds weirdly twee and devoid of passion Sounds like prince was going for a kind of detached 60s vibe but it sounds anaemic and more than a bit derivative Like he felt he had to write something about what happened but then I've never felt hes THAT kind of artist Hes better just writing about himself than big events or issues [Edited 11/15/20 13:19pm]

The video is a very direct presentation of what was happening in the city. I wonder if you'd find it even more of an odd disconnect to hear the song while seeing the images. I like the song and video, but as I'm sure you know, you're far from alone in finding that Baltimore didn't really work.

Much appreciate your thoughts and song examples. They bring even more songs to mind...music from my parents Weavers records, Mahalia Jackson singing We Shall Overcome, The Times They Are a-Changin, Get Up Stand Up, Strange Fruit, Biko, Living for the City, etc., etc.

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what do you consider as princes best 'political' or 'message' songs?

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

rednblue said:

The video is a very direct presentation of what was happening in the city. I wonder if you'd find it even more of an odd disconnect to hear the song while seeing the images. I like the song and video, but as I'm sure you know, you're far from alone in finding that Baltimore didn't really work.

Much appreciate your thoughts and song examples. They bring even more songs to mind...music from my parents Weavers records, Mahalia Jackson singing We Shall Overcome, The Times They Are a-Changin, Get Up Stand Up, Strange Fruit, Biko, Living for the City, etc., etc.

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what do you consider as princes best 'political' or 'message' songs?

Even after some thought, I probably wouldn't have a great answer. Would be interested to hear what some hardcore fans think.

Also, not being religious, I miss a whole slew of P's messages in that area, but I do find the Deliverance EP touching, and it sure does hold my attention.

Papa grabs my attention, too.

On a side note, it was really something to learn how much Prince loved Suzanne Vega's Luka.

Some P lyrics with/thoughts messages that mean a lot to me...

"No child is bad from the beginning
They only imitate their atmosphere"

"What if I filled ur eyes with tears
So many that U cannot see...
What if I told U that U're worth
Only half of what U b...
What distortion could U let ur pen 4get 2day?
What misfortune left ur heart so broken U only say
Words intended 2 belittle or dismay?"

The songs Dreamer and Sacrifice of Victor are really impressive.

As mentioned before, I like Baltimore better than many. I think it's really good.

Here's the song with video:

https://youtu.be/hMLI7LFf84w

Do have some complaints, e.g. thought Ronnie Talk to Russia lyrics were really bad.

Do you like any of Prince's message/political songs?

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

sure, theres a handful on each, its just that, for fans, i think a lot of them will be enjoyable, but to convince someone outside, that prince was still making great material in this period, idk how convincing a lot of these loooooong playlists would be. thats what i was thinking when i made my post about a 90s playlist - trying to convince an outsider, rather than just a playlist of songs for fans to play for other fans.

i want to play catch up, but idk if i can bring myself to properly sit through a lot of these songs. there is a lot of music in the world to listen to....

[Edited 11/16/20 15:54pm]

Agree it's a challenge to select which songs get included in a showcase of Prince's talents/range for each decade. I owe an apology to the OP's as I didn't follow the directions and avoided the challenge, choosing instead to simply add some songs for consideration to the list of those songs already mentioned.

It might be easier if we were doing this showcase for a particular person we knew. Many of us would probably make our picks with that person's musical tastes in mind.

How would you find the challenge of making Prince music showcase(s) for your favorite decades or time periods?

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lurker316 said:

Since there are threads for the '90s and the oughts, here's one for the twenty-teens (I'm a completist).

Songs from 2010 through 2016:

• Lavaux
• Laydown
• Indifference
• Breakfast Can Wait (Expresso Mix)
• The Gold Standard
• U Know
• This Could B Us (AOA version)
• Way Back Home
• Time
• Like a Mack
• X's Face
• Rock N Roll Love Affair (HNR 2 version)
• Look at Me, Look at U
• Stare
• Xtralovable (HNR 2/horn version)
• When She Comes
• Black Muse
• Big City

That's a pretty good list right there. I'd make a few deletions struckthrough and additions in bold.

• Lavaux
• Laydown
• Indifference
• Breakfast Can Wait (Expresso Mix)
• The Gold Standard
• U Know
• This Could B Us (AOA version) (HNR1 version)
  
• Way Back Home
• Time
• Like a Mack
• X's Face (this shoujld be the first song on the mix, very cool opener)
  
• Rock N Roll Love Affair (HNR 2 version)
• Look at Me, Look at U
• Stare
• Xtralovable (HNR 2/horn version)
• When She Comes
• Black Muse
• Revelation
• 1000 Xs & Os
• Big City

ForbiddenFruit said:

Laydown

Clouds

Breakdown

Xtraloveable

Lavaux

This Could Be Us

Way Back Home

Hardrock Lover

Fall in Love 2nite

1000 Xs & Os

great album...

This is pretty good. But I would add Revelation, Look at Me Look at U, X's Face, Black Muse, and When She Comes. I still think it fits on 1 CD.

rednblue said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

sure, theres a handful on each, its just that, for fans, i think a lot of them will be enjoyable, but to convince someone outside, that prince was still making great material in this period, idk how convincing a lot of these loooooong playlists would be. thats what i was thinking when i made my post about a 90s playlist - trying to convince an outsider, rather than just a playlist of songs for fans to play for other fans.

[Edited 11/16/20 15:54pm]

Agree it's a challenge to select which songs get included in a showcase of Prince's talents/range for each decade. I owe an apology to the OP's as I didn't follow the directions and avoided the challenge, choosing instead to simply add some songs for consideration to the list of those songs already mentioned.

How would you find the challenge of making Prince music showcase(s) for your favorite decades or time periods?

[Edited 11/16/20 17:22pm]

There are a few different ways you could approach a playlist that's intended to showcase Prince's talents to the uninitiated. Obviously you could try to impress them with songs that have significant artistic and/or technical merit, though there's a great deal of subjectivity in those measures.

What's always impressed me about Prince is his range. I tell people that I could play them 100 Prince songs back-to-back, and all of the songs would sound like they were made by a completely different artist. If I were to put a playlist together specifically to emphasis the eclectic nature of his catalogue, I would intentionally juxtipose songs with genres and styles light years apart. For instance, it might go something like this:

• Venus de Milo
• Bambi
• Head
• The Truth
• Rainbow Children
• Face Down
• Colonised Mind
• The Way Back Home
• Adonis & Bathsheba
• Dreamer
• Condition of the Heart
• The Undertaker

The dozen songs I just picked off the top of my head my night be his best, but I believe they effectively illustrate his range as an artist, especially when juxtiposed to each other.

rednblue said:

ok here is mine -

future soul song

walk in sand

breakdown (the 3eg live version of this is incredible - in fact the AOA album has 3 of his best songs of the last 15 years, prob better than anything else in this time period)

way back home

time

june

when she comes

rnr love affair (im not totally sure why i like this, its kinda boring, but there was a live tv show version that sold it to me)

revelation

anotherlove

tictactoe

funkroll (plectrum electrum version)

I should maybe give those hit n run albums another go,idk

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

ok here is mine -

future soul song

walk in sand

breakdown (the 3eg live version of this is incredible - in fact the AOA album has 3 of his best songs of the last 15 years, prob better than anything else in this time period)

way back home

time

june

when she comes

rnr love affair (im not totally sure why i like this, its kinda boring, but there was a live tv show version that sold it to me)

revelation

big city (is this an old time song? he really should have let morris do it)

anotherlove

tictactoe

funkroll (plectrum electrum version)

I should maybe give those hit n run albums another go,idk

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[Edited 11/17/20 6:11am]

It's been said Walk In Sand could be on a tampon commercial. It's lost it's appeal since.

.

Surely Free Urself should make your list.

.

And yes maybe give HNR 2 anothor go.

Only negative at the time of release was the fact we had half of it already but there is a lot of strong tracks on it. Revelation and Look At Me are top notch IMO

tbh a lot of songs from this period were cheesy

screwdriver, wow, etc, all cheesy AF

so ok, walk in sand might sound like a tampon commercial

but these other songs, supposedly less corny, sound like beer commercials.

anyway, its wrong. if it does sound like a tampon commercial, well hey, let me buy some good tampons.

i almost included valentina but he just sounds horny and desperate (in a bad rather than risque way). worse when you know hes actually addresing salma hayeks daughter. wtf lol.

Couldnt find free urself online....

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[Edited 11/17/20 7:54am]

edit - i heard free urself. it has a good ending, but its average. plus the bassline is a bowie heroes rip off.

[Edited 11/17/20 10:33am]

dodger said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

ok here is mine -

future soul song

walk in sand

breakdown (the 3eg live version of this is incredible - in fact the AOA album has 3 of his best songs of the last 15 years, prob better than anything else in this time period)

way back home

time

june

when she comes

rnr love affair (im not totally sure why i like this, its kinda boring, but there was a live tv show version that sold it to me)

revelation

big city (is this an old time song? he really should have let morris do it)

anotherlove

tictactoe

funkroll (plectrum electrum version)

I should maybe give those hit n run albums another go,idk

[Edited 11/17/20 5:06am]

[Edited 11/17/20 6:11am]

It's been said Walk In Sand could be on a tampon commercial. It's lost it's appeal since.

.

Surely Free Urself should make your list.

.

And yes maybe give HNR 2 anothor go.

Only negative at the time of release was the fact we had half of it already but there is a lot of strong tracks on it. Revelation and Look At Me are top notch IMO

Not a tampon commercial - a maxipad commercial. With a girl riding a horse on a beach in white jeans. (I know because I was the one who said it.)

sounds hot.

Genesia said:

dodger said:

It's been said Walk In Sand could be on a tampon commercial. It's lost it's appeal since.

.

Surely Free Urself should make your list.

.

And yes maybe give HNR 2 anothor go.

Only negative at the time of release was the fact we had half of it already but there is a lot of strong tracks on it. Revelation and Look At Me are top notch IMO

Not a tampon commercial - a maxipad commercial. With a girl riding a horse on a beach in white jeans. (I know because I was the one who said it.)

Can she be riding the white Pegasus?

shaping up to be one great maxipad commercial.

Genesia said:

dodger said:

Genesia said:

Not a tampon commercial - a maxipad commercial. With a girl riding a horse on a beach in white jeans. (I know because I was the one who said it.)

my mistake I actually knew it was you but didn’t know if you’d want outing for the infamous quote

Why not? I'm pretty sure it's my ultimate org claim to fame.

Genesia said: