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OldFriends4Sal
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Purple Rain 'CoNsIdErAtIoNs' listed in the Beautiful Ones?


edited out the word 'OUTTAKE'
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So I'm reading another section of the book, the section fleshing out the Purple Rain movie characters Prince Morris and Vanity and there is:
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Songs include

Baby I'm a STAR

I Would DIE For U

MOONBEAM LEVELS
I CAN'T STOP THIS FEELING I GOT

TOO TOUGH

WOULDN'T U LOVE TO LOVE ME

I JuST WANNA BE RICH

BOLD GENERATION

among others.
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I might have missed this in conversations/discussions, but were these ever confirmed as Purple Rain outtakes?


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Reply #1 posted 11/03/20 7:59am

laytonian

It's definitely there; Moonbeam Levels would have been great in Purple Rain.
So many songs were under consideration.

Most folks have the book but haven't read it.

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Reply #2 posted 11/03/20 10:20am

imprimis

These are earlier-era vault titles (1979 through Spring 1983), presented for consideration to director Magnoli, at a very early stage of preproduction.

These are not Purple Rain outtakes, as such. IWD4U, & BIAS, of course, emerged from this list.

Had any of the other several dozen titles been selected for potential use in the film, they likely would have been substantially reworked, or more likely, fully re-recorded. There's no evidence to suggest this happened.

'Purple Music' may have received some minor overdubs for Dreams/Purple Rain at this very early moment; 'G-Spot', 'Moonbeam Levels', and 'Wonderful Ass', (in their known forms) may have received a microsecond of a fleeting glance as entries for a possible soundtrack, before being put back into storage at Sunset Sound or WB.

Most of the other titles did not receive even this level of serious consideration, but some did stay on the backburner for years afterwards ('Too Rough', WYL2LM, ICSTFIG, etc)

'Electric Intercourse', and the most primordial trappings of what would evolve into 'Purple Rain', were not specifically written with any film project in mind, either.

The list is eye-opening, however, in containing a number of outtakes that have never circulated to date.

If any of the titles represent a song from during or close to the actual production, I would suspect it is an instrumental ('Electrocution', 'Divinity'), or some partially incomplete work that originates from another project (like 'Velvet Kitty Cat' or 'My Love Belongs To You').

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Reply #3 posted 11/03/20 10:48am

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I'm talking about Purple Rain considerations. It's clear they were songs considered for Purple Rain.
That's all I'm saying. Just that they were considered had my attention

I think 'I Just Wanna Be Rich' is the only one that I'm not familiar with, unless it has a different title

imprimis said:

These are earlier-era vault titles (1979 through Spring 1983), presented for consideration to director Magnoli, at a very early stage of preproduction.

These are not Purple Rain outtakes, as such. IWD4U, & BIAS, of course, emerged from this list.

Had any of the other several dozen titles been selected for potential use in the film, they likely would have been substantially reworked, or more likely, fully re-recorded. There's no evidence to suggest this happened.

'Purple Music' may have received some minor overdubs for Dreams/Purple Rain at this very early moment; 'G-Spot', 'Moonbeam Levels', and 'Wonderful Ass', (in their known forms) may have received a microsecond of a fleeting glance as entries for a possible soundtrack, before being put back into storage at Sunset Sound or WB.

Most of the other titles did not receive even this level of serious consideration, but some did stay on the backburner for years afterwards ('Too Rough', WYL2LM, ICSTFIG, etc)

'Electric Intercourse', and the most primordial trappings of what would evolve into 'Purple Rain', were not specifically written with any film project in mind, either.

The list is eye-opening, however, in containing a number of outtakes that have never circulated to date.

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Reply #4 posted 11/03/20 10:56am

imprimis

Susan Rogers discusses 'M... placement

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Reply #5 posted 11/03/20 11:05am

imprimis

Under consideration at an early stage, yes, but generally only in the loosest or most transient fashion. By Summer 1983, they (his several managers, and the WB and film corporate suits) had to have arrived at a plan to build a narrowly tailored single LP of strong tracks, closely mirroring the formula set by the most commercially successful aspects of 1999.

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It is difficult to see how most of these outtakes, in their existing form, would hold up to that high expectation. The best of them are 'deep cuts' or 'killer B's'. The pseudo-live aspects helped dress up the prevailing songs like IWD4U/BIAS, which would be mediocre in a purely studio interpretation.

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Reply #6 posted 11/03/20 11:53am

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Hi everyone.

I can't remember which interview it was where Susan said this, but I remember her specifically saying that Prince tried sequencing Purple Rain with Moonbeam Levels as the last track.

I thought about where this song would be appropriate in the film, and I reckon it would have been a great number to include over the credits, instead of the Purple Rain medley.
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Reply #7 posted 11/03/20 11:55am

imprimis

VaultCurator said:

Hi everyone. I can't remember which interview it was where Susan said this, but I remember her specifically saying that Prince tried sequencing Purple Rain with Moonbeam Levels as the last track. I thought about where this song would be appropriate in the film, and I reckon it would have been a great number to include over the credits, instead of the Purple Rain medley.

The moment in the interview where she disccuses this I have linked in my post above.

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Reply #8 posted 11/03/20 4:26pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Reply #9 posted 11/03/20 4:30pm

LoveGalore

It was so early in the process that these are likely just his favorites at the time.
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Reply #10 posted 11/03/20 4:34pm

OldFriends4Sal
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I could see Bold Generation being done by the Time in Purple Rain.

It was anthematic and could have easily fit in the same space as Jungle Love or the Bird.

I think it would have fit better on Ice Cream Castles than What Time Is It?

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a few of the others could have been for Vanity 6 as well

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