FunkiestOne said:

Her comments seemed reasonable to me.

FunkiestOne said:

We know that Prince could be a religious fanatic at times, but just finding it difficult to believe he was truly that clueless and dumb.

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He defended burqas in an interview. Dude had a hard-on for theocracy.

Prince giving her a look

LoveGalore said:

haveaglamslam said:

LoveGalore said:

Creepy as shit. I'm so glad God isn't real because the books written about him are a freakshow.

So are his fanatics

This thing we got, it's alive!
It seems to transcend the physical
One touch and I'm satisfied
Must be a dream it's so magical

onlyforaminute said:

This woman is selling writing about what P beliefs were. Nothing she's said shows she had a clue what his specific beliefs were. Morality is as morality does, not what label one slaps on their forehead.

Seems like everything she's said offers clues to what his beliefs were at that time. It's not abot morality, it's about science vs religion.

I mean he did mention chemtrails in a publicized interview. He liked to go into the emotion based beliefs.

Half of America does!

I think God has a sense of humor and is the least dogmatic entity around.

Oh, that Prince. Who knows if he believed the same thing the following day? He was basically 5 people with contradictory beliefs and attitudes in one person.

It's interesting hearing these stories that demonstrate an early religious extremism in him, then hear him on those taped interviews with Neal Karlan from around the same time saying basically, if God/heaven isn't real, then who cares, at least he lived for something.

I think Sheila E mentioned in an interview that there were times when he lost his belief too... Did he believe in evolution and meteors on those days?

I have to wonder if he was joking about the "next you'll be telling me that came out of the sky!" comment. Seems like a joke to me, though who knows.

Prince and Chemtrails...I forgot about that. He seemed pretty convinced, no irony.

Purpleone4Eva said:

BartVanHemelen said:

FunkiestOne said:

We know that Prince could be a religious fanatic at times, but just finding it difficult to believe he was truly that clueless and dumb.

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He defended burqas in an interview. Dude had a hard-on for theocracy.

Strive said:

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Religion.

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For me religion stands for wars, devision, underdevelopment and oppression - us AGAINST the rest.

It's like the worse kind of diarrhea.

Always trying to shove 'alternative facts' unasked up other peopple's asses - and i'm not even kinky!

It keeps people from thinking - from being sane.

But hey, believe what you like - as long as you don't confront me with scriptures and likes,

or fuck me up unasked and stay away from my wallet, you're mostly welcome.

All my humble opinion of course.

Prince was a fool for that matter I believe.

Poor soul, it killed him too.

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onlyforaminute said:

Everybody gets a gold star and a trophy. You all win.

Let's go back to first grade...

I'm an atheist, but religion in art (including Prince's music) gets a free pass when the result is good. I don't like Prince for intellectual reasons, anyway.

Margot said:

Prince and Chemtrails...I forgot about that. He seemed pretty convinced, no irony.

The thing is, Prince's openness to emotional split instinctive reasoning is what also led to his great art. If he had been a cold intellect, I dunno what kind of music we would have gotten. Maybe less with more quality? Maybe more boring stuff. Maybe nothing interesting.

He was a master of patterns, creating and weaving patterns and then discarding them. Recognizing and appropriating them, and also inventing them. and I think it was driven by impulsiveness and willingness to dive off a cliff with no caution. That type of spirit can soar, but at the expense of cold logic or wise deliberation.

I take his dabbling in conspiracies and religion as part of the mix that is/was Prince.

ufoclub said:

This is one of the best Prince stories ever to me, because it speaks of what pushed him and his art, that lyrical romanticized sentiment, but also might have limited him in personal life, that headstrong denial of logic.

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Well, if you lock yourself in and work/record/play 20 hours a day, sleep 4 hours, it is quite possible you have no clue of what the outside world is about, right?

And, like, constantly calling people in the middle of the night, is kinda like purple stalking...

ANd to mention that he never wanted a 'no' for an answer...

I even wonder if Prince had a real life besides his music.

Alan Leeds said the guy was pretty normal, besides his work ethic.

It also occures to me that all these hundreds of interviews with people from in and around his camp, barely ever have much surprisingly deep to say about conversations with Prince.

As if there were barely deep long big talks amongst them - knowing that they spend hours, days months, years with each other.

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I liked the story that Lenny Kravitz told in an interview recently with Naomi Campbell.

One day, Prince called him up in the afternoon asking Lenny to be ready in 30 minutes.

They were up to fool around with Michael Jackson in the Sony Studio's where Michael was.

Lenny said they fooled around all afternoon and had lots of fun.

I mean, I would've looooooved to be a fly on a wall to see those three just 'hanging'.

Need to read that memoire of Lenny now.

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McD said:

I don’t understand scripture? If you’re a JW, isn’t it your absolute position that 99.7% of believers don’t understand scripture? Only you do? So no point in directing me to an atheism site, is there. Even if I was a Christian (god help us), I’d consider your beliefs off the charts. I see you haven’t defended God and Jesus’s insistence on blood magic. Even if you’ve tried to squirrel your way out of doing it yourself, do you really want to believe in a God who seems to have a lot of abhorrent things to say, but insists on you killing animals for no reason other than to dab the blood behind your ear? It may also be unwise to abandon the direct instructions of God himself for the word of an extremist convert. Huge risk, I’d say. But you have at it. Hope you’re one of the 144,000. If your actions in this thread help you to get there, put a word in for me with the big fella.

Nice try but I'm Catholic. The point wasn't to convert you, the point was to get you to stop talking out of your ass about the JWs and Prince's beliefs.

Even the 144,000 you are mistaken about. The JWs believe that 144,000 go to heaven to serve in God's Kingdom but that everybody - outside of those destroyed in Armageddon, who get direct judgment at that time - are coming back to Earth for judgment or eternal life.

Trust me, I had to explain that one to Catholic people alot.

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Strive said:

Truth is, no matter what any of us think about religion or Prince & Religion, look at what he's accomplished with his life... His upbringing and family circumstances directed him to go 100MPH in the direction he went. And he is lauded across the world. And by all genre of music.

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'What's the matter with your life?..."

LoveGalore said:

Creepy as shit. I'm so glad God isn't real because the books written about him are a freakshow.

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Exactly.

How sane can it be to live up to tales written a couple of thousand years ago, and not being able to even question them.

When I was in my early thirties, I read the books out of curiosity, and to be able to try and have an informed say when the topic presented itself.

It only made me even more incredulous.

Creepy (science) fiction though.

Best to forget the inhuman and unnatural restrictions that are always enforced,

as well as the hatred and rediculed division of 'believers/unbelievers'.

How petty and at the same time silly that is.

It's only peace and love that matters.

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Strive said:

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ufoclub said:

This is one of the best Prince stories ever to me, because it speaks of what pushed him and his art, that lyrical romanticized sentiment, but also might have limited him in personal life, that headstrong denial of logic.

Agreed, ultimately his was a musical education and as you suggest he may have lost something if he were more grounded in reality.

onlyforaminute said:

So P didn't believe in meteors? He points to the meteor and said to her, next you're going to tell me this came from the sky? Mmmmm...okay. I'm off to listen to Space.

Like I said, these views were again echoed in Colonized Mind:

"Upload, the evolution principle
You see a rock on the shore and say
"It's always been there"
Download, no responsibility
Do what you want, nobody cares"

Creationist is a lie used to sell religion. While religion is used to control people for wealth and power. The idea that Noah's Ark could contain all the animals(twice over) let alone food for the animals is impossible. The Ark they built as life size in the USA could only contain all the worlds insects with no room for any animals or vice versa. It is physically impossible to contain all the worlds creatures in that Ark.

Dsoul said: