Am I the only fan that would like 2 see the 1 800 New Funk album as a stand alone Prince album done like The Originals album. That is, if Prince recorded versions 4 all of the songs on this disc, it'd be a cool little item 2 have IMO. I love If I Love U 2nite (Prince version) Lovesign, I like Standing At The Altar and would love a Prince only vocal. I bought 1-800 NEW FUNK just because of Prince's involvement but I really wished that he would have sang on it more. Just musing.

cfluid said:

Am I the only fan that would like 2 see the 1 800 New Funk album as a stand alone Prince album done like The Originals album. That is, if Prince recorded versions 4 all of the songs on this disc, it'd be a cool little item 2 have IMO. I love If I Love U 2nite (Prince version) Lovesign, I like Standing At The Altar and would love a Prince only vocal. I bought 1-800 NEW FUNK just because of Prince's involvement but I really wished that he would have sang on it more. Just musing.

IDK about that because:

There's no Prince vocals on 17 (obviously) and Hollywood.

It's uncertain if there's a version of Love Sign with only P on vocals.

It's uncertain if If I Love U 2Nite and You Will Be Moved (both were produced/recorded by Ricky Peterson, though it's likely there exists a demo of YWBM by Prince and there are of course the original, older recordings of IILU2N, but in the case of both songs these wouldn't be the same recordings as on the compilation).

It's very unlikely there exist versions 2gether and A Woman's Gotta Have It with P on vocals.

And we're not even sure whether there are versions of MPLS, Color and Standing At The Altar with Prince vocals. It's likely, but not documented.

So in the end it doesn't appear there's much viability to what you propose.

This said, it's a great compilation that will, hopefully be rereleased one day.

databank said:

IDK about that because:

There's no Prince vocals on 17 (obviously) and Hollywood.

It's uncertain if there's a version of Love Sign with only P on vocals.

It's uncertain if If I Love U 2Nite and You Will Be Moved (both were produced/recorded by Ricky Peterson, though it's likely there exists a demo of YWBM by Prince and there are of course the original, older recordings of IILU2N, but in the case of both songs these wouldn't be the same recordings as on the compilation).

It's very unlikely there exist versions 2gether and A Woman's Gotta Have It with P on vocals.

And we're not even sure whether there are versions of MPLS, Color and Standing At The Altar with Prince vocals. It's likely, but not documented.

So in the end it doesn't appear there's much viability to what you propose.

This said, it's a great compilation that will, hopefully be rereleased one day.

I'm going to take this as a gentle trolling, because clearly all those songs w/ vocals have Prince's voice on them (except maybe the Bobby Womack cover, and the quasi-Madhouse).

But to the OP, is it worth a release a la Originals? Not to me. Songs like "Color," "You Will Be Moved," "2gether," "If I Luv u 2nite" are songs I don't necessarily need or care to hear with Prince singing. His vocal isn't going to improve a soft B-grade song. I'd not mind hearing "Standing At the Altar," but I feel like there was a Prince version that leaked. Maybe I'm wrong on that. (Was it a remix that leaked? A b-side?)

RJOrion said:

the first coaster was quite enough

TrivialPursuit said:

databank said:

IDK about that because:

There's no Prince vocals on 17 (obviously) and Hollywood.

It's uncertain if there's a version of Love Sign with only P on vocals.

It's uncertain if If I Love U 2Nite and You Will Be Moved (both were produced/recorded by Ricky Peterson, though it's likely there exists a demo of YWBM by Prince and there are of course the original, older recordings of IILU2N, but in the case of both songs these wouldn't be the same recordings as on the compilation).

It's very unlikely there exist versions 2gether and A Woman's Gotta Have It with P on vocals.

And we're not even sure whether there are versions of MPLS, Color and Standing At The Altar with Prince vocals. It's likely, but not documented.

So in the end it doesn't appear there's much viability to what you propose.

This said, it's a great compilation that will, hopefully be rereleased one day.

I'm going to take this as a gentle trolling, because clearly all those songs w/ vocals have Prince's voice on them (except maybe the Bobby Womack cover, and the quasi-Madhouse).

But to the OP, is it worth a release a la Originals? Not to me. Songs like "Color," "You Will Be Moved," "2gether," "If I Luv u 2nite" are songs I don't necessarily need or care to hear with Prince singing. His vocal isn't going to improve a soft B-grade song. I'd not mind hearing "Standing At the Altar," but I feel like there was a Prince version that leaked. Maybe I'm wrong on that. (Was it a remix that leaked? A b-side?)

His vocal isn't going to improve a soft B-grade song

fair enough

TrivialPursuit said:

LoveGalore said:

His vocals on "Make-Up" and "You're My Love" are awesome and drive up the quality of those songs, imo. Certainly I prefer his vocal take on "It's A Wonderful Day." Actually I think his vocals make up for a lot, especially since that's kind of a big draw for most of his fans.

I'd take issue with that. His vocal noodling in the last 50 seconds or so just irks the everliving shit out of me. "You're My Love" is one of my favorite outtakes/song for someone else. It's such a simple perfect pop song. But don't think I don't love hearing his version anyway, because I do.

And while yes, I of course agree, that his vocals on any song is great, my point was that the early-mid section of songs on 1800-New-Funk just aren't that interesting in general. I think the song with the most potential out of the ones I named would be "You Will Be Moved." The others... I don't care who sings them.

[Edited 11/4/20 22:48pm]

TrivialPursuit said:

I'd not mind hearing "Standing At the Altar," but I feel like there was a Prince version that leaked. Maybe I'm wrong on that. (Was it a remix that leaked? A b-side?)

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A rehearsal take with Margie on vocals. e.g. on "30 Years Of Unreleased Funk Vol. 2". No version with Prince on lead vocals that I'm aware of.

TrivialPursuit said:

databank said:

IDK about that because:

There's no Prince vocals on 17 (obviously) and Hollywood.

It's uncertain if there's a version of Love Sign with only P on vocals.

It's uncertain if If I Love U 2Nite and You Will Be Moved (both were produced/recorded by Ricky Peterson, though it's likely there exists a demo of YWBM by Prince and there are of course the original, older recordings of IILU2N, but in the case of both songs these wouldn't be the same recordings as on the compilation).

It's very unlikely there exist versions 2gether and A Woman's Gotta Have It with P on vocals.

And we're not even sure whether there are versions of MPLS, Color and Standing At The Altar with Prince vocals. It's likely, but not documented.

So in the end it doesn't appear there's much viability to what you propose.

This said, it's a great compilation that will, hopefully be rereleased one day.

I'm going to take this as a gentle trolling, because clearly all those songs w/ vocals have Prince's voice on them (except maybe the Bobby Womack cover, and the quasi-Madhouse).

I was actually trying to help with the available information.

But then again that'll teach me to try and help fellow orgers.

RJOrion said:

the first coaster was quite enough

I think "Standing At The Altar" is a GREAT song

databank said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I'm going to take this as a gentle trolling, because clearly all those songs w/ vocals have Prince's voice on them (except maybe the Bobby Womack cover, and the quasi-Madhouse).

I was actually trying to help with the available information.

But then again that'll teach me to try and help fellow orgers.

Listen, I said it was trolling because I figured - why wouldn't there be Prince versions of any of those songs that he wrote and worked on (except maybe the Womack cover)? I mean, a duet like "Lovesign" that doesn't have a Prince only vocal for Nona to follow? She's practically buried in the mix anyway. So yeah, I saw it as sarcasm on your part. Nothing wrong with that. For the record, I do think there are very, very likely his vocals on all those songs.

databank said:

cfluid said:

Am I the only fan that would like 2 see the 1 800 New Funk album as a stand alone Prince album done like The Originals album. That is, if Prince recorded versions 4 all of the songs on this disc, it'd be a cool little item 2 have IMO. I love If I Love U 2nite (Prince version) Lovesign, I like Standing At The Altar and would love a Prince only vocal. I bought 1-800 NEW FUNK just because of Prince's involvement but I really wished that he would have sang on it more. Just musing.

IDK about that because:

There's no Prince vocals on 17 (obviously) and Hollywood.

It's uncertain if there's a version of Love Sign with only P on vocals.

It's uncertain if If I Love U 2Nite and You Will Be Moved (both were produced/recorded by Ricky Peterson, though it's likely there exists a demo of YWBM by Prince and there are of course the original, older recordings of IILU2N, but in the case of both songs these wouldn't be the same recordings as on the compilation).

It's very unlikely there exist versions 2gether and A Woman's Gotta Have It with P on vocals.

And we're not even sure whether there are versions of MPLS, Color and Standing At The Altar with Prince vocals. It's likely, but not documented.

So in the end it doesn't appear there's much viability to what you propose.

This said, it's a great compilation that will, hopefully be rereleased one day.

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Just out of curiosity, where do you get the idea that songs such as "2gether" and "A Woman's Gotta Have It" don't have versions with Prince on lead vocals?

SoulAlive said:

RJOrion said:

the first coaster was quite enough

I think "Standing At The Altar" is a GREAT song

I like it too. I was at a flea market, and found this as an old cassette tape. Dug out one of my kids old radios with a cassette player, got to listen to almost all of it, and it busted in two on Mayte's song...I can't remember the name of it. (Love You Tonight, or something like that?)

Anyhow, I tried to do the old seventies thing and splice it back together, and wind it up carefully, but it came all apart. Well, give me an E for effort. Loved the graphics on the liner on it for real!!!

olb99 said:

databank said:

olb99 said:

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Just out of curiosity, where do you get the idea that songs such as "2gether" and "A Woman's Gotta Have It" don't have versions with Prince on lead vocals?

There is little evidence that the tracks on Gold Nigga exist with more Prince vocals than on the record. Prince mostly recorded the whole thing with the band and according to one source I asked who was there, Tony wrote most if not all his lyrics. À Woman's Gotta Have It was produced by Ricky Peterson and it's still unclear how involved Prince was with the recording (most likely either basic tracking or overdubs) but since it's a cover there was no need for guide vocals for Nona. Now clearly these sessions are not well documented yet. Hopefully more info will surface.

Yes, Tony definitely wrote the lyrics to 2gether. You can't imagine P recording vocals for many of the Gold Nigga tracks but 2gether he could have, and he performed it live. So it's pure speculation...

databank said:

olb99 said:

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Just out of curiosity, where do you get the idea that songs such as "2gether" and "A Woman's Gotta Have It" don't have versions with Prince on lead vocals?

There is little evidence that the tracks on Gold Nigga exist with more Prince vocals than on the record. Prince mostly recorded the whole thing with the band and according to one source I asked who was there, Tony wrote most if not all his lyrics. À Woman's Gotta Have It was produced by Ricky Peterson and it's still unclear how involved Prince was with the recording (most likely either basic tracking or overdubs) but since it's a cover there was no need for guide vocals for Nona. Now clearly these sessions are not well documented yet. Hopefully more info will surface.

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Thanks. The fact that Tony M might have written most lyrics on the album is news to me. It makes sense, though.

OperatingThetan said:

It was a nice, breezy summer album. I have a fondness because I bought it at the NPG Store in Camden, London, before it was officially released. 'Love Sign' would've been another big hit for Prince in '94 if WB had allowed him to release it. It sounded contemporary and fresh for Prince at the time and the video was receiving airplay. The same applies to 'Dolphin'.

I remember hearing Love Sign on the radio (Detroit area) in 1994 and loving it.

As for the Originals concept, I would love to hear Prince's version of all of these songs. I would say it's guaranteed that they exist.

I imagine you could do the same with The Time, Vanity 6, and Family albums too. Entire "Originals" albums.