I'm putting together a hybrid version of the Dream Factory album that incorporates tracks from all 3 known configurations, but omits tracks that were released in some form on SOTT (even alternate versions). Here's my tracklist and sources:

1. Visions (SOTT Deluxe, but with chopped off first note restored from bootleg)
2. Dream Factory (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud; includes "Welcome 2 Holly Rock" segue)
3. Wonderful Day (SOTT Deluxe)
4. Big Tall Wall [version 1] (SOTT Deluxe)
5. Train (SOTT Deluxe)
6. And That Says What? (SOTT Deluxe)
7. Teacher, Teacher (SOTT Deluxe)
8. Colors (SOTT Deluxe)
9. In a Large Room with No Light (SOTT Deluxe)
10. Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A (SOTT Deluxe)
11. Sexual Suicide (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud)
12. Crystal Ball (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud)
13. Power Fantastic (Hits version with SOTT Deluxe intro tacked on)
14. Last Heart (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud)
15. Witness 4 the Prosecution [version 1] (SOTT Deluxe)
16. Movie Star (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud and has Jam of the Year sample)
17. A Place in Heaven [Lisa vocal] (SOTT Deluxe)
18. All My Dreams (SOTT Deluxe)

Thoughts?

AvocadosMax said:

This would have been his best album... Add Wally and yeah... his best album.... (or include Wally on an alternate late 80s album and... yeah... second best album lol)

I'm curious: Where would you place Wally in this tracklist? I might try that.

bluefish said:

I'm putting together a hybrid version of the Dream Factory album that incorporates tracks from all 3 known configurations, but omits tracks that were released in some form on SOTT (even alternate versions). Here's my tracklist and sources:

Thoughts?

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Love it. Great idea.

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My choice of order :

1. Crystal Ball

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10. Nevaeh Ni Acalp A (...but in the correct reversed position. It's such a great little song when you hear it the normal way. Wonderful and heavenly sung. Leave the title backwards though)

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16. A Place In Heaven (Lisa Vocal) ( SOTT Deluxe)

17. Wally (SOTT Deluxe)

18. All My Dreams (SOTT Deluxe)

19. Power fantastic.

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Vannormal said:

bluefish said:

I'm putting together a hybrid version of the Dream Factory album that incorporates tracks from all 3 known configurations, but omits tracks that were released in some form on SOTT (even alternate versions). Here's my tracklist and sources:

Thoughts?

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Love it. Great idea.

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My choice of order :

1. Crystal Ball

...

10. Nevaeh Ni Acalp A (...but in the correct reversed position. It's such a great little song when you hear it the normal way. Wonderful and heavenly sung. Leave the title backwards though)

...

16. A Place In Heaven (Lisa Vocal) ( SOTT Deluxe)

17. Wally (SOTT Deluxe)

18. All My Dreams (SOTT Deluxe)

19. Power fantastic.

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I'll try this, thanks!

I've compiled two albums to bookend SOTT as we know it: a single disc version of Dream Factory, and a single disc called Crystal Ball (comprised of the tracks that were cut to make SOTT):


I. Dream Factory

1. Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A (intro/segue from bootleg)
2. Dream Factory
3. Train
4. Colors
5. In A Large Room With No Light
6. Power Fantastic [-end side one-]
7. Sexual Suicide
8. A Place In Heaven (Lisa vocals)
9. Witness 4 The Prosecution (version 1)
10. Last Heart
11. All My Dreams

II. Crystal Ball

1. Rebirth Of The Flesh
2. Good Love
3. Crystal Ball [-end side one-]
4. Shockadelica
5. The Ball
6. Joy In Repetition
7. Rockhard In A Funky Place

Since the CB98 tracks are on... CB98, I see no reason to include them any more than the songs on SOTT.

databank said:

LoveGalore said:

databank said:

Since the CB98 tracks are on... CB98, I see no reason to include them any more than the songs on SOTT.

You really don't see a reason? The reason is that the premise is DF songs without ones that made it to SOTT. The CB98 songs fit that schema.

Yeah I mean yeah if you follow this reasoning then OK. I mean any reasoning can be followed. We could also have a CB86 tracklist of the songs that didn't make to to SOTT, then

databank said:

emesem said:

I ripped my vinyl copy of the deluxe set to FLAC and Visions is intact.

So maybe you have a bad rip?

bluefish said:

I'm putting together a hybrid version of the Dream Factory album that incorporates tracks from all 3 known configurations, but omits tracks that were released in some form on SOTT (even alternate versions). Here's my tracklist and sources:

1. Visions (SOTT Deluxe, but with chopped off first note restored from bootleg)
2. Dream Factory (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud; includes "Welcome 2 Holly Rock" segue)
3. Wonderful Day (SOTT Deluxe)
4. Big Tall Wall [version 1] (SOTT Deluxe)
5. Train (SOTT Deluxe)
6. And That Says What? (SOTT Deluxe)
7. Teacher, Teacher (SOTT Deluxe)
8. Colors (SOTT Deluxe)
9. In a Large Room with No Light (SOTT Deluxe)
10. Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A (SOTT Deluxe)
11. Sexual Suicide (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud)
12. Crystal Ball (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud)
13. Power Fantastic (Hits version with SOTT Deluxe intro tacked on)
14. Last Heart (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud)
15. Witness 4 the Prosecution [version 1] (SOTT Deluxe)
16. Movie Star (bootleg version, since CB '98 version is too loud and has Jam of the Year sample)
17. A Place in Heaven [Lisa vocal] (SOTT Deluxe)
18. All My Dreams (SOTT Deluxe)

Thoughts?

I'm in the process of doing this kind of thing myself.... though I have to say it makes no sense to me to choose bootlegs over CB98 tracks just because their volume is loud.

This is why I don't do playlists, I always make/edit albums together.

And my rip of my CB98 CDs aren't too loud, because I reduced the volume on the ripped tracks. Why would anyone not do that?

I'm not trying to be a dick, it just seems like an obvious solution. And although the mastering on the CB98 tracks is criminally awful (thanks Prince!), they still sound better than the boots.

Rimshottbob said:

You can just turn the gain down on Crystal Ball to match other levels if you are exporting a file.

Are you using the version of Crystal Ball without the intro and orchestration? The one with Clare Fischer's strings didn't appear until the Crystal Ball album.

Romeoblu said:

I have been listening to the set in the order it was released but decided today to have a go at Dream Factory and Crucial bootleg inspired playlist. I came up with the following. Where I used the crystal ball 98 versions I lowered the volume on the tracks to match the Sign sde volumes. Neaveh Ni Eclap A Dream Factory (cb 98) Wonderful Day (shorter version) Teacher Teacher Train It Ain't Over Til The Fat Lady Sings Eggplant (prince vocal) Everybody Wants What They Don't Got Big Tall Wall And That Says What In A Large Room With No Light Sexual Suicide (cb 98) Crystal Ball (first version without Stings) Power Fantastic (b sides version) Crucial (sign sde version) Can I Play With U? Wally Last Heart (cb 98) Witness 4 The Prosecution 1 (sign sde version) Movie Star (box of Chocs version) A Place In Heaven (prince vocal) All My Dreams.

That's a good list!

AvocadosMax said:

This would have been his best album... Add Wally and yeah... his best album.... (or include Wally on an alternate late 80s album and... yeah... second best album lol)

Wally was about his break up with Susannah and the Revolution overall. So it might not have been created, if Dream Factory Prince & the Revolution continued

Would the Coco Boys project and the Dawn movie have happened if Prince & the Revolution Dream Factory 1987 happened?

tab32792 said:

Do we have any actual evidence that this was even a real album and not just an idea that quickly faded but has gained traction due to fans journalists and Revolution band members? I’ve never seen a cassette or test pressing of DF.

We have a hand-written tracklist by Susan Rogers at the time but even that was probably an idea for all of 10 minutes. Any kind of finished tracklist is speculation, mix and match as you see fit, that's sure as hell what I do.

tab32792 said:

That’s what I meant. Outside of that one from Susan, Dream Factory was never a test pressed album or a cassette tape sequence. There’s no evidence at all of it other than that Susan Rogers handwritten track list but that’s common for him to draw up or write up such a thing. This myth is being promoted heavily by journalists, the estate and even fans. He was highly productive and prolific during this time and recorded a lot but never made a planned album. Between promoting the movie promoting parade rehearsing and recording he never even mentioned a new prince and the Revolution album following parade as far as I know.

This is true, but we also know that he was working on lots and lots of new stuff with the Revolution over a long period before they split up, and that he altered quite a few tracks after this point. How far along they were in approaching a complete album is unknown, including your idea that there was no plan for an album, but certainly they had enough close to finished tracks for several albums. Pretty sure everyone in the Revolution has said they never heard of a Dream Factory album until years later, so you can call it what you like as well

If you only want what Prince wanted then you have already Sign 'O' the Times (and arguably Crystal Ball and Camille).

What i'm saying is, chill, go with the flow. History is written, at this point we're onto fan fiction

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