RJOrion said:

Se7en said:

I listened to the podcast today. Some new stuff to be learned about how it all unfolded, but overall more of what we already know.

It's just nice to hear those bandmembers voices describing the era.

I imagine Sheila E. is staying away due to the Apollonia rant, but who knows.

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Good advice, always stay from a safe distance with latino drama.

Certainly when two latino women are involved.

Nice to watch though with a big bucket of popcorn.

Flesh will be torn, Hair will be pulled, ''I'll cut you'', etc ...

So, get in line!

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SimonCharles said:

Ok - as enjoyable as it was, that was the first episode that I've come away from feeling flat. Hide and seek, nerves in the bar at 1st Avenue, a nice touch about the backdrop to the cover, I'll give it that...but Dr Kildare...that's not a cutting room floor story?

*

Eric Leeds is a curiosity. I adore his musicianship and his frankness, but, boy, for a man who seems to have disliked or disagreed with so much of what Prince did or played, he really spends a lot of time coming on productions about Prince. In many ways it is refreshing to hear a person not be completely up the ass of their former employer, but would I continuously put myself infront of a microphone to keep saying so in public? OR, it's great that there's an adult in the room - so to speak. I don't know, this week's show is not giving me the satisfaction of the others, so far. Hopefully, things will return to normal, next week.

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Maybe he needs the money...

Or he feels the need to recognize the appreciation and for the man who gave him opportunities because of his qualities: ''Prince gave me the possibility to record my own album.''

That's what Eric said in that podcast before the evenet screening on 09/25/2020.

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Nice to know, Eric did pick up the phone at night when that skinny motherfucker with the deep voice said ''I'm cutting, what you doing?''

And Eric replied, ''I'm sleeping, see ya at noon''

Then, I believe Susannah replied; ''That's because he needed/tolerated you because he did not play the saxophone.''

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Love that.

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

tab32792 said:

Very odd Sheila isn’t on these

She said something recently about stepping away from situations where she’s not appreciated. Maybe it’s some of the negative flack she’s been receiving as of late.

Wasn't she actively trying to stop any vault releases?
I think she will never participate in these releases because it seems she wants everything to stay locked up.

LoveGalore said:

SimonCharles said:

Ok - as enjoyable as it was, that was the first episode that I've come away from feeling flat. Hide and seek, nerves in the bar at 1st Avenue, a nice touch about the backdrop to the cover, I'll give it that...but Dr Kildare...that's not a cutting room floor story?

*

Eric Leeds is a curiosity. I adore his musicianship and his frankness, but, boy, for a man who seems to have disliked or disagreed with so much of what Prince did or played, he really spends a lot of time coming on productions about Prince. In many ways it is refreshing to hear a person not be completely up the ass of their former employer, but would I continuously put myself infront of a microphone to keep saying so in public? OR, it's great that there's an adult in the room - so to speak. I don't know, this week's show is not giving me the satisfaction of the others, so far. Hopefully, things will return to normal, next week.

As far as Eric is concerned, he didn't like Prince's music, didn't agree with a lot of his choices and thought prince made use of him too frequently, and on and on. Interesting then that he had one of the longest collaborations with him (what, 1984-1996? Did he show up after Emancipation?).

He played at the Emancipation Freedom launch concert and was supposed to be in the band but they disagreed over being paid for rehearsal, I read.

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He later joined the ONA tour on certain dates. And was on NEWS

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I agree he likes to make it very clear he was not a P fan.

Vannormal said:

SimonCharles said:

Ok - as enjoyable as it was, that was the first episode that I've come away from feeling flat. Hide and seek, nerves in the bar at 1st Avenue, a nice touch about the backdrop to the cover, I'll give it that...but Dr Kildare...that's not a cutting room floor story?

*

Eric Leeds is a curiosity. I adore his musicianship and his frankness, but, boy, for a man who seems to have disliked or disagreed with so much of what Prince did or played, he really spends a lot of time coming on productions about Prince. In many ways it is refreshing to hear a person not be completely up the ass of their former employer, but would I continuously put myself infront of a microphone to keep saying so in public? OR, it's great that there's an adult in the room - so to speak. I don't know, this week's show is not giving me the satisfaction of the others, so far. Hopefully, things will return to normal, next week.

-

Maybe he needs the money...

Or he feels the need to recognize the appreciation and for the man who gave him opportunities because of his qualities: ''Prince gave me the possibility to record my own album.''

That's what Eric said in that podcast before the evenet screening on 09/25/2020.

-

Nice to know, Eric did pick up the phone at night when that skinny motherfucker with the deep voice said ''I'm cutting, what you doing?''

And Eric replied, ''I'm sleeping, see ya at noon''

Then, I believe Susannah replied; ''That's because he needed/tolerated you because he did not play the saxophone.''

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Love that.

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Perhaps you're right - although looking at that stack of vinyl behind him...I'd be pawning rathering than whoring to get money.

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I think to make a valid point about Eric wanting to honour the man who gave him the opportunity, yes - although, as I say, when given that opportunity he chose to make a bland sandwich...and not even a Bland sandwich, which would at least have had great rhythm.

*

That last exchange is gorgeous, and Susannah is on point.

LoveGalore said:

RJOrion said:

word.. he sent her ass home to do chores and draw stick figures with Crayons on the walls, while he got nice in Nice

Don't forget the drapes. She was a lovely interior designer.

oh lawd you lot



what you guys seem to forget is that Susannah has never claimed Prince was faithful to her. She says they were engaged. And they broke up. and I imagine unfaithfulness was part of the reason.

jaawwnn said:

LoveGalore said:

RJOrion said: Don't forget the drapes. She was a lovely interior designer.

oh lawd you lot



what you guys seem to forget is that Susannah has never claimed Prince was faithful to her. She says they were engaged. And they broke up. and I imagine unfaithfulness was part of the reason.

It's ok, she's still securing a bag all these years after on his name so she won in the end! Hundalasiliah!

In all seriousness, I'm just cracking jokes. It's not that deep and I have no idea why people feel such a strong connection to these creatures who Prince allowed to share his stage. Maybe it has to do with when and why people got into Prince. I remember having a crush on Wendy when I was a kid and thinking the Revolution were like superheroes. And I guess they are in a lot of ways.

But not everybody can be Superman. And you know what? Superman is still Superman with or without his Wonder Women.

LoveGalore said:

jaawwnn said:

oh lawd you lot



what you guys seem to forget is that Susannah has never claimed Prince was faithful to her. She says they were engaged. And they broke up. and I imagine unfaithfulness was part of the reason.

It's ok, she's still securing a bag all these years after on his name so she won in the end! Hundalasiliah!

In all seriousness, I'm just cracking jokes. It's not that deep and I have no idea why people feel such a strong connection to these creatures who Prince allowed to share his stage. Maybe it has to do with when and why people got into Prince. I remember having a crush on Wendy when I was a kid and thinking the Revolution were like superheroes. And I guess they are in a lot of ways.

But not everybody can be Superman. And you know what? Superman is still Superman with or without his Wonder Women.

Lets not talk about the bags, i'm with you on that one.

Yeah I dunno about the rest, i'd never have heard of 99% of them if it wasn't for Prince so that's always implied as far as i'm concerned. No matter what they say that's always in the back of my mind so i'm not bothered if they take credit for a riff, they can probably write a thousand riffs as good at it in a day but only Prince turns it into Computer Blue or Purple Rain or whatever, and I don't think they think any different either.

jaawwnn said:

LoveGalore said:

It's ok, she's still securing a bag all these years after on his name so she won in the end! Hundalasiliah!

In all seriousness, I'm just cracking jokes. It's not that deep and I have no idea why people feel such a strong connection to these creatures who Prince allowed to share his stage. Maybe it has to do with when and why people got into Prince. I remember having a crush on Wendy when I was a kid and thinking the Revolution were like superheroes. And I guess they are in a lot of ways.

But not everybody can be Superman. And you know what? Superman is still Superman with or without his Wonder Women.

Lets not talk about the bags, i'm with you on that one.

Yeah I dunno about the rest, i'd never have heard of 99% of them if it wasn't for Prince so that's always implied as far as i'm concerned. No matter what they say that's always in the back of my mind so i'm not bothered if they take credit for a riff, they can probably write a thousand riffs as good at it in a day but only Prince turns it into Computer Blue or Purple Rain or whatever, and I don't think they think any different either.

You're very kind to them with that bit. I totally believe that if it were a remote possibility, some folks are not beyond revisionist actions like changing credits.

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What is it that some people so strongly developed against those they never met in their lives ?

Create your own puzzle of the mountain of information that's thankfully coming to suface,

and try to ad a positive undefending and kind note to this comunity that should share only one thing, and that is the mutual love for music.

Just for peace sake.

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SimonCharles said:

Vannormal said:

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Maybe he needs the money...

Or he feels the need to recognize the appreciation and for the man who gave him opportunities because of his qualities: ''Prince gave me the possibility to record my own album.''

That's what Eric said in that podcast before the evenet screening on 09/25/2020.

-

Nice to know, Eric did pick up the phone at night when that skinny motherfucker with the deep voice said ''I'm cutting, what you doing?''

And Eric replied, ''I'm sleeping, see ya at noon''

Then, I believe Susannah replied; ''That's because he needed/tolerated you because he did not play the saxophone.''

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Love that.

-

Perhaps you're right - although looking at that stack of vinyl behind him...I'd be pawning rathering than whoring to get money.

*

I think to make a valid point about Eric wanting to honour the man who gave him the opportunity, yes - although, as I say, when given that opportunity he chose to make a bland sandwich...and not even a Bland sandwich, which would at least have had great rhythm.

*

That last exchange is gorgeous, and Susannah is on point.

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Eric does not seem the kind of guy that is a yay-sayer.

I could be wrong though. But first he is a real jazz player. Got into the pop business and took the job i guess (got to pay the bills), and probably because of his somewhat more friendly distant attitude and work ethic he was taken seriously. He certainly brought in a lot of new musical information Prince discovered and gained interest for. He mostly did what was asked of him i think.

I remember him standing in the back of the 'The Screams Of Fashion' video with a bassguitar in his hands, dancing... if you take that and do what's being asked of you, you kinda cool. Anyways.

I like his albums. I don't think they are 'beige'. But I do understand your feel of it.

They are peculiar at least. I just always loved his (funky) sound and style of playing.

The fact that he did not always agreed with Prince's music is honest, adult and understandable.

He knows when and how to say this. He never showed blunt indifference, but was capable enough to say what he didn't like, whithout falling into unnecessary details or emotional attacks.

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I wished Prince used him more for his bariton sax playing.

''Girls and Boys'' ? Funky as fucking hell because of that thrilling bariton sax.

-

Someone else here asked ''what about Miko'' ? Indeed. Why don't we hear him?

Such a great rhythm guitar player.

And I kinda start to like Levi.

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[Edited 10/2/20 22:40pm]

Vannormal said:

SimonCharles said:

Perhaps you're right - although looking at that stack of vinyl behind him...I'd be pawning rathering than whoring to get money.

*

I think to make a valid point about Eric wanting to honour the man who gave him the opportunity, yes - although, as I say, when given that opportunity he chose to make a bland sandwich...and not even a Bland sandwich, which would at least have had great rhythm.

*

That last exchange is gorgeous, and Susannah is on point.

-

Eric does not seem the kind of guy that is a yay-sayer.

I could be wrong though. But first he is a real jazz player. Got into the pop business and took the job i guess (got to pay the bills), and probably because of his somewhat more friendly distant attitude and work ethic he was taken seriously. He certainly brought in a lot of new musical information Prince discovered and gained interest for. He mostly did what was asked of him i think.

I remember him standing in the back of the 'The Screams Of Fashion' video with a bassguitar in his hands, dancing... if you take that and do what's being asked of you, you kinda cool. Anyways.

I like his albums. I don't think they are 'beige'. But I do understand your feel of it.

They are peculiar at least. I just always loved his (funky) sound and style of playing.

The fact that he did not always agreed with Prince's music is honest, adult and understandable.

He knows when and how to say this. He never showed blunt indifference, but was capable enough to say what he didn't like, whithout falling into unnecessary details or emotional attacks.

-

I wished Prince used him more for his bariton sax playing.

''Girls and Boys'' ? Funky as fucking hell because of that thrilling bariton sax.

-

Someone else here asked ''what about Miko'' ? Indeed. Why don't we hear him?

Such a great rhythm guitar player.

And I kinda start to like Levi.

-

[Edited 10/2/20 22:40pm]

I agree 100% re Eric's attitude and personality, yes. One of the adults in the room, that's very much for sure - and, I am being overly harsh about Time Squared, etc, but it really does sound like diet-sugarfree-Madhouse-lite-zero when compared to some of the stuff we know he recorded with Prince et al, and had a free reign on sequencing into album(s)...so, to elect to release such safe music I find curious - disappointing.

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When I think about all the musicians that worked with Prince, Eric Leeds (and Atlanta Bliss) always stand out because of what they added to his work. Lisa gave him notes and structure I don't think he would have easily accessed without her, and Eric Leeds/Matt Blistan gave him a rounded sound and a new avenue to explore - and they are both masterful musicians, too.

*

Re Miko - I replied to that comment: perhaps he was asked and declined to take part, perhaps his contributions were deemed to fit better later in the story, and may appear in the next couple of episodes. If it is a matter of not approaching him to take part, that's a curious decision (a wrong one) given the heavy lifting he had to increasingly do on tour. It would be great to hear from him. Likewise, I'd enjoy a Greg Brooks Wally Safford takes on the tour, too - how their part in the stage show evolved and altered with the departure of Jerome and the arrival of Cat. I'd much rather hear those sorts of details than about Hide and Seek and Dr Kildare, that's for sure.

Vannormal said:

The guy is a great trumpet player. Even Eric Leeds agrees.

Fans/people even thinking it was Miles instead of him playing on Power fantastic... right ?

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That was more a sign of "fans/people's" complete ignorance than a compliment.

LoveGalore said:

SimonCharles said:

Ok - as enjoyable as it was, that was the first episode that I've come away from feeling flat. Hide and seek, nerves in the bar at 1st Avenue, a nice touch about the backdrop to the cover, I'll give it that...but Dr Kildare...that's not a cutting room floor story?

*

Eric Leeds is a curiosity. I adore his musicianship and his frankness, but, boy, for a man who seems to have disliked or disagreed with so much of what Prince did or played, he really spends a lot of time coming on productions about Prince. In many ways it is refreshing to hear a person not be completely up the ass of their former employer, but would I continuously put myself infront of a microphone to keep saying so in public? OR, it's great that there's an adult in the room - so to speak. I don't know, this week's show is not giving me the satisfaction of the others, so far. Hopefully, things will return to normal, next week.

As far as Eric is concerned, he didn't like Prince's music, didn't agree with a lot of his choices and thought prince made use of him too frequently, and on and on. Interesting then that he had one of the longest collaborations with him (what, 1984-1996? Did he show up after Emancipation?).

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He toured with Prince in 2002 and 2003. And played on "N.E.W.S." (2003).

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Eric is indeed a curiosity. I love his work with Prince. I love hearing him about his time with Prince. But what he did outside of the Prince world left be completely cold. Maybe I should give "Now & Again" another listen? Or mabye what he did with Paul Peterson?

.

My personal conclusion is that he did his best work with Prince. The fact that he didn't like Prince's music makes it quite ironic.

About "Wally": I'll just say that in this episode they're fading it out just as the tape warble starts. Coincidence? I don't think so.

[Edited 10/3/20 0:49am]

why isnt michael howe on any of these podcasts?

seems a very odd omission.

erics comments about paisley park being a crazy investment and a money drain even in 1986 (!) is amusing. esp in light of my earlier post about PP being a mistake. eric leeds, if you are reading this, i salute you sir. lol.

[Edited 10/3/20 6:09am]

donnyenglish said:

violetcrush said:

Sheila was touring with Lionel Ritchie in 1986. Susannah was engaged to, and living with Prince for the majority of 1986. Not sure how much time Prince would have had for Sheila to be his "girlfriend".

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I imagine, based on recent events and statements from others who were in the camp back then, if Sheila cannot be the focus of these podcasts then she may not want to participate.

Again, Sheila recorded a whole album with Prince in 1986. Your Sheila was not available to record in 1986 theory is false. Check Prince Vault. She was there during the relevant period as an artist. Prince found time to have plenty of romantic interests at the same time. We would be naive to think that Prince was ever committed to one person for more than 2 weeks based on everything that has come out.

[Edited 10/1/20 9:25am]

So, Prince lived with Susannah AND Sheila at the Galpin Ave home??? And Sheila got a 6 carat ring too??

*

Okay, gotcha

LoveGalore said:

violetcrush said:

Sheila was touring with Lionel Ritchie in 1986. Susannah was engaged to, and living with Prince for the majority of 1986. Not sure how much time Prince would have had for Sheila to be his "girlfriend".

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I imagine, based on recent events and statements from others who were in the camp back then, if Sheila cannot be the focus of these podcasts then she may not want to participate.

Girl please. It is very common knowledge that Prince was fucking Sheila for the duration of his relationship with Susannah. Why do you think she got tired of it and left? Because he's writing songs about how much he loves and loves to fuck other women the same time she's alone designing the drapery in the palace on the hill.

Girl please!!! Prince may have boned Sheila one time or a few and then sent her on her way, but she got NO ring, and DID NOT reside with Prince at the Galpin home. Yep, Susannah everntually left, however, Prince chased her ass all the way back to LA and begged her to go back to MN with him. Then, he flew her all over Europe to be with him during the SOTT, and most likely the LoveSexy tour, as Susannah said this went on for years and years.

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And Jill?? Girl please!!! Jill J was the most used and abused of them all.

tab32792 said:

The only time prince was committed to one woman at a time was when he was married and even they didn’t last long lol towards the end of his life he had multiple women too. He sent Susannah home and flew in Sheila and or Jill Jones to France during filming so again...he was definitely slinging dick every which way

Bahahahahaha!!!! You think Prince was committed to Mayte because he married her??!!! NOPE. Prince was NEVER EVER monogamous in ANY of his relationships. Period. Fact is, he planned a proposal for Susannah, flew her to NY, took her ring shopping and "found" the ring he had already picked out for her, flew her to Paris for a week, and then planned the Galphin home with her where she lived with him for quite awhile. For Prince, at a young 28 yrs old and at the top of the mountain, I'd say it was a REALLY big deal for him to try to make that commitment.

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Yep, Prince was "slinging dick" and then sending the gals back on their way. I don't recall Sheila or Jill getting that 6 carat rock or living with Prince at the Galpin home. I don't recall either of those being the subject of FIML or Wally or IIWYG or Empty Room or.....you get my point, right??

Vannormal said:

SimonCharles said:

Perhaps you're right - although looking at that stack of vinyl behind him...I'd be pawning rathering than whoring to get money.

*

I think to make a valid point about Eric wanting to honour the man who gave him the opportunity, yes - although, as I say, when given that opportunity he chose to make a bland sandwich...and not even a Bland sandwich, which would at least have had great rhythm.

*

That last exchange is gorgeous, and Susannah is on point.

-

Eric does not seem the kind of guy that is a yay-sayer.

I could be wrong though. But first he is a real jazz player. Got into the pop business and took the job i guess (got to pay the bills), and probably because of his somewhat more friendly distant attitude and work ethic he was taken seriously. He certainly brought in a lot of new musical information Prince discovered and gained interest for. He mostly did what was asked of him i think.

I remember him standing in the back of the 'The Screams Of Fashion' video with a bassguitar in his hands, dancing... if you take that and do what's being asked of you, you kinda cool. Anyways.

I like his albums. I don't think they are 'beige'. But I do understand your feel of it.

They are peculiar at least. I just always loved his (funky) sound and style of playing.

The fact that he did not always agreed with Prince's music is honest, adult and understandable.

He knows when and how to say this. He never showed blunt indifference, but was capable enough to say what he didn't like, whithout falling into unnecessary details or emotional attacks.

-

I wished Prince used him more for his bariton sax playing.

''Girls and Boys'' ? Funky as fucking hell because of that thrilling bariton sax.

-

Someone else here asked ''what about Miko'' ? Indeed. Why don't we hear him?

Such a great rhythm guitar player.

And I kinda start to like Levi.

-

[Edited 10/2/20 22:40pm]

Agree with all of this. Eric is a "tell it like it is" guy, and does not sugar coat anything. I really enjoyed his VERY long interview on Prince Podcast. He does not mince words with how he felt about some of Prince's music, however, he's also praised his talent many times, and has stated he was very lucky to have worked with him. Prince respected him as a musician, and they had some great sessions. I loved that he brought him back into the mix on the ONA tour. Very cool!

LoveGalore said:

SimonCharles said:

Ok - as enjoyable as it was, that was the first episode that I've come away from feeling flat. Hide and seek, nerves in the bar at 1st Avenue, a nice touch about the backdrop to the cover, I'll give it that...but Dr Kildare...that's not a cutting room floor story?

*

Eric Leeds is a curiosity. I adore his musicianship and his frankness, but, boy, for a man who seems to have disliked or disagreed with so much of what Prince did or played, he really spends a lot of time coming on productions about Prince. In many ways it is refreshing to hear a person not be completely up the ass of their former employer, but would I continuously put myself infront of a microphone to keep saying so in public? OR, it's great that there's an adult in the room - so to speak. I don't know, this week's show is not giving me the satisfaction of the others, so far. Hopefully, things will return to normal, next week.

As far as Eric is concerned, he didn't like Prince's music, didn't agree with a lot of his choices and thought prince made use of him too frequently, and on and on. Interesting then that he had one of the longest collaborations with him (what, 1984-1996? Did he show up after Emancipation?).

I believe Eric stated that he brought him back in to put Sax on songs that he didn't think needed it. He was saying he liked the songs the way they were - without his Sax. He's also stated in other interviews that he was never really into "pop" music, so he just went along with whatever he thought Prince wanted at the time. Prince loved his playing though. Eric was brought back into the mix on the ONA tour. It was great to see him there with Maceo Parker. He looked so happy to be on stage with him.

dodger said:

RJOrion said:

word.. he sent her ass home to do chores and draw stick figures with Crayons on the walls, while he got nice in Nice

but those drawings inspired Crystal Ball don’t forget

Awwwww, sounds like we've got some jelly fans here who only wish they could've lived with Prince and drawn art on his walls

*

Y'all know she's singing with Prince on Crystal Ball and it's ALL about them having sex, right??

*

"Expert lover (Susannah), my baby (again..Susannah), ever had a crystal ball?"....

[Edited 10/3/20 18:25pm]

RJOrion said:

tab32792 said:

The only time prince was committed to one woman at a time was when he was married and even they didn’t last long lol towards the end of his life he had multiple women too. He sent Susannah home and flew in Sheila and or Jill Jones to France during filming so again...he was definitely slinging dick every which way

word.. he sent her ass home to do chores and draw stick figures with Crayons on the walls, while he got nice in Nice

Bahahahahha!!! He may have had some play time running around in Nice, however, you DO know that Susannah was also staying at the rented home in cap d'atibes, right?? She discussed this during her long interview with Toure. She was also in the Girls & Boys video which was filmed in Nice. She also told the story of Prince taking her snorkeling on the Yacht there. So, yeah, she was there too.

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Not to mention....it was NOT Sheila, Jill, or any other side piece who was at the Galpin house when Prince walked in the door after wrapping the film. It was.....drumroll please....SUSANNAH!!

RighteousOne said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Yeah, let's listen to the woman who thinks she recorded her second album in a building that hadn't been built yet at that time. The woman who claimed they recorded her debut album in a week, which is technically true if you ignore that Prince had recorded all those songs weeks before Prince even conceived of doing a solo album with her and that all they did in that week was adding her vocals and her percussion to already finished tracks.

Damn. That Donny English boy just got told.

YEP. This is why I love Bart He knows his stuff

SimonCharles said:

Vannormal said:

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Eric does not seem the kind of guy that is a yay-sayer.

I could be wrong though. But first he is a real jazz player. Got into the pop business and took the job i guess (got to pay the bills), and probably because of his somewhat more friendly distant attitude and work ethic he was taken seriously. He certainly brought in a lot of new musical information Prince discovered and gained interest for. He mostly did what was asked of him i think.

I remember him standing in the back of the 'The Screams Of Fashion' video with a bassguitar in his hands, dancing... if you take that and do what's being asked of you, you kinda cool. Anyways.

I like his albums. I don't think they are 'beige'. But I do understand your feel of it.

They are peculiar at least. I just always loved his (funky) sound and style of playing.

The fact that he did not always agreed with Prince's music is honest, adult and understandable.

He knows when and how to say this. He never showed blunt indifference, but was capable enough to say what he didn't like, whithout falling into unnecessary details or emotional attacks.

-

I wished Prince used him more for his bariton sax playing.

''Girls and Boys'' ? Funky as fucking hell because of that thrilling bariton sax.

-

Someone else here asked ''what about Miko'' ? Indeed. Why don't we hear him?

Such a great rhythm guitar player.

And I kinda start to like Levi.

-

[Edited 10/2/20 22:40pm]

I agree 100% re Eric's attitude and personality, yes. One of the adults in the room, that's very much for sure - and, I am being overly harsh about Time Squared, etc, but it really does sound like diet-sugarfree-Madhouse-lite-zero when compared to some of the stuff we know he recorded with Prince et al, and had a free reign on sequencing into album(s)...so, to elect to release such safe music I find curious - disappointing.

*

When I think about all the musicians that worked with Prince, Eric Leeds (and Atlanta Bliss) always stand out because of what they added to his work. Lisa gave him notes and structure I don't think he would have easily accessed without her, and Eric Leeds/Matt Blistan gave him a rounded sound and a new avenue to explore - and they are both masterful musicians, too.

*

Re Miko - I replied to that comment: perhaps he was asked and declined to take part, perhaps his contributions were deemed to fit better later in the story, and may appear in the next couple of episodes. If it is a matter of not approaching him to take part, that's a curious decision (a wrong one) given the heavy lifting he had to increasingly do on tour. It would be great to hear from him. Likewise, I'd enjoy a Greg Brooks Wally Safford takes on the tour, too - how their part in the stage show evolved and altered with the departure of Jerome and the arrival of Cat. I'd much rather hear those sorts of details than about Hide and Seek and Dr Kildare, that's for sure.

-

I relistened to some Eric tracks from his albums made with Prince again.

Very 'pop' (miglged with poppy jazz), which actually wasn't his thingy, like he said. (Still like it very much though.)

As I come to think of it, maybe he thought; ''I can try the popular side of things through this great chance Prince's giving me, and do the like Herb Alpert thing...'', from whom I saw a great documentary.

He somehow must have known that some Prince fans and prince critics could follow him.

Would love to ask him about my huge assulmption here.

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We've got two more podcasts coming up, on the Live material.

Who knows... Just a bit worried they announced there are going to be Dutch Prince fans on there too.

Might be the filler for the gap of both Miko and Sheila or even Matt being absent.

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Today listened the whle day to the Joni Mitchell 50 songs box ! Man..... I so understand Prince for loving her. And stumbled upon a nice picture of her and Wendy and Lisa in a studio somewhere. Very lovely.

I also found some interviews with her etc... she was one of a kind too, in a positive and acceptable weird kind of way.

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Vannormal said:

SimonCharles said:

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I relistened to some Eric tracks from his albums made with Prince again.

Very 'pop' (miglged with poppy jazz), which actually wasn't his thingy, like he said. (Still like it very much though.)

As I come to think of it, maybe he thought; ''I can try the popular side of things through this great chance Prince's giving me, and do the like Herb Alpert thing...'', from whom I saw a great documentary.

He somehow must have known that some Prince fans and prince critics could follow him.

Would love to ask him about my huge assulmption here.

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We've got two more podcasts coming up, on the Live material.

Who knows... Just a bit worried they announced there are going to be Dutch Prince fans on there too.

Might be the filler for the gap of both Miko and Sheila or even Matt being absent.

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Today listened the whle day to the Joni Mitchell 50 songs box ! Man..... I so understand Prince for loving her. And stumbled upon a nice picture of her and Wendy and Lisa in a studio somewhere. Very lovely.

I also found some interviews with her etc... she was one of a kind too, in a positive and acceptable weird kind of way.

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You could be on to something, with regards Eric taking the chance to try something out of the ordinary for him. You're right, to be able to have a sit down and chance to speak with him (or any of the other band members, actually) would be a wonderful experience.

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Ah, Joni Mitchell...yes. Beautiful. Curious that as you were letting her gorgeousness wash over you, I was very much in Mike Patton Land and Bungled my way through the day!

LoveGalore said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

why isnt michael howe on any of these podcasts?

seems a very odd omission.

erics comments about paisley park being a crazy investment and a money drain even in 1986 (!) is amusing. esp in light of my earlier post about PP being a mistake. eric leeds, if you are reading this, i salute you sir. lol.

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But remember, Prince didn't care about money in the way that most people do. He wanted everything and more in his hometown that a musician/performer could get in LA. He wanted to produce new musicians, and to have existing/popular musicians record there. He wanted to have his own space to rehearse his shows and also invite locals for concerts. PP did all of these things for him.

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He built his own musical fortress within the MN hills, and built his personal residence just down the road. Although, he still flew out to LA all the time too