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Thread started 09/26/20 4:44am

love2thenines2
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PRINCE CLEAR ANSWER ABOUT VAULT RELEASES

Just in passing about the eternal debate :
"For or against posthumous releases?"
Prince (The View, 2012)
"One day someone will release them I don't know that i don't get to release them..."
4 years later, no change of heart and no will!
Let's hear it... (they will recognize each other)
Personally, I benefit greatly from what comes out.
[Edited 9/26/20 4:46am]
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Reply #1 posted 09/26/20 4:47am

LoveGalore

So anyway what's the next SDE? You keep alluding, in your sexy thick french typing accent, that it isn't Parade.
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Reply #2 posted 09/26/20 4:59am

bluegangsta

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I think there would be very few people on this forum that aren't aware of that quote.

Also, you've framed it in your obvious favour. He could have said is as a point of resignation - perhaps he knew that if he wasn't willing to commit to a will, then no doubt people would capitalise off of his archive, like other artists that had passed before him.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #3 posted 09/26/20 10:00am

laytonian

He knew there was too much in the Vault to be released in his lifetime.
He'd known that since WB refused the 3-album package that was reduced to SOTT.
He'd known that since WB refused to just release a whole bunch of CDs and let people pick among them at the wrecka stow.

But he didn't destroy them.

I believe he knew his legacy was in releasing the Vault music as "new".

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #4 posted 09/26/20 10:34am

CAL3

laytonian said:

He knew there was too much in the Vault to be released in his lifetime.
He'd known that since WB refused the 3-album package that was reduced to SOTT.
He'd known that since WB refused to just release a whole bunch of CDs and let people pick among them at the wrecka stow.

But he didn't destroy them.

I believe he knew his legacy was in releasing the Vault music as "new".


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There’s an obvious difference between belief and fact.
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You can literally believe anything you want.
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But the fact is, the statement made on The View is so obtuse it is rendered utterly meaningless.
I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #5 posted 09/26/20 11:16am

masaba

I think no will is the biggest indicator that he believed that when he moved on from this life to the next, that was it. He had to be cool with reliquinishing that control, otherwise he obviously would have had a will or at least some kind of demonstrative instructions.
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Reply #6 posted 09/26/20 11:55am

ForceofNature

He made similar comments over the years, nothing super detailed or that informative though. But all in all he did pass away and all of this material, good material, is there. I think that putting great music in the world for people to enjoy is a much more productive use of it all rather than not
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Reply #7 posted 09/26/20 2:29pm

TrivialPursuit

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Sorta having that conversation over here: https://prince.org/msg/7/464460

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #8 posted 09/28/20 6:29pm

abraxas3121

At this point, who cares! He's gone, the vault is and will be released in its entirety continously and most of us will be dead long before its all released!!! So stop bitching about it!!!

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Reply #9 posted 09/29/20 12:54am

JorisE73

laytonian said:

He knew there was too much in the Vault to be released in his lifetime.
He'd known that since WB refused the 3-album package that was reduced to SOTT.
He'd known that since WB refused to just release a whole bunch of CDs and let people pick among them at the wrecka stow.

But he didn't destroy them.

I believe he knew his legacy was in releasing the Vault music as "new".


I think if he destroyd them then WB would have sued him for millions becuase they own it, right?

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Reply #10 posted 09/29/20 6:03pm

databank

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JorisE73 said:

laytonian said:

He knew there was too much in the Vault to be released in his lifetime.
He'd known that since WB refused the 3-album package that was reduced to SOTT.
He'd known that since WB refused to just release a whole bunch of CDs and let people pick among them at the wrecka stow.

But he didn't destroy them.

I believe he knew his legacy was in releasing the Vault music as "new".


I think if he destroyd them then WB would have sued him for millions becuase they own it, right?

Technically they don't "own" it, neither the masters let alone the physical tapes the music was recorded on. That much we know for a fact.

If what love2thenine's says is true, WB owns an unlimited exclusive licence to distribute the material.

But WB could not force Prince to release it neither can they force the Estate. So I doubt they could have sued Prince (or that they could sue the Estate) for a loss of profit, since all he had to do was what he did: sit on the material, and the Estate could also choose to do this if they so wished. I mean they could try, and possibly win, but technically the music does not belong to them.

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Reply #11 posted 09/30/20 12:29am

JorisE73

databank said:

JorisE73 said:


I think if he destroyd them then WB would have sued him for millions becuase they own it, right?

Technically they don't "own" it, neither the masters let alone the physical tapes the music was recorded on. That much we know for a fact.

If what love2thenine's says is true, WB owns an unlimited exclusive licence to distribute the material.

But WB could not force Prince to release it neither can they force the Estate. So I doubt they could have sued Prince (or that they could sue the Estate) for a loss of profit, since all he had to do was what he did: sit on the material, and the Estate could also choose to do this if they so wished. I mean they could try, and possibly win, but technically the music does not belong to them.


Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up. I'm not well versed in these rights things.

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Reply #12 posted 09/30/20 1:15am

love2thenines2
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databank said:

JorisE73 said:


I think if he destroyd them then WB would have sued him for millions becuase they own it, right?

Technically they don't "own" it, neither the masters let alone the physical tapes the music was recorded on. That much we know for a fact.

If what love2thenine's says is true, WB owns an unlimited exclusive licence to distribute the material.

But WB could not force Prince to release it neither can they force the Estate. So I doubt they could have sued Prince (or that they could sue the Estate) for a loss of profit, since all he had to do was what he did: sit on the material, and the Estate could also choose to do this if they so wished. I mean they could try, and possibly win, but technically the music does not belong to them.

Update ! From what i heard recently from a contact.....WB/SONY would have recently reached an agreement finally on the sharing of future releases for the next few years, it seems good news for fans so confirmed? of course this info is unofficial and there are no details .... we'll see the schedule of releases planned for 2021.... in the spring of next year we should know more I guess?

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