I have always had an intense and unnatural love for Coco Boys - but this version …

databank said:

As someone who finds immense enjoyment listening to the hour long rehearsal of Soul Psychodelicide, I am absolutely loving this track!! FONKY!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

databank said:

What was that line sayin'?

In the bootleg it was all the "I was in a band called sandra dee and honey we were a sight for moral eyes..." And the stuff about blond hair and that they lost the battle and then the end about kicking his ass.

Ah cool thx

databank said:

olb99 said:

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I didn't note down the timings, unfortunately, but I had the same feeling while listening to that track (i.e. hearing at least some effects, if not overdubs, that were not present in the complete rehearsal recording).

You musta missed my comment below that first one: Duane/Pvault confirmed that it's a genuine Prince-made edit/mix

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Oops. Indeed, I missed that. This is good news. As said, I think I also heard things that are not in the raw rehearsal recording, which might mean it's not "just an edit", but something even more interesting (compared to the 7" edit of "Crystal Ball", let's say, which really is "just an edit").

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Crucial (Alternate Lyrics) about to drop:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tbLfYMdWI

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Soul Psychodelicide (1986 Master; 2020 Remaster):

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noL2kojuYhs

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olb99 said:

databank said:

You musta missed my comment below that first one: Duane/Pvault confirmed that it's a genuine Prince-made edit/mix

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Oops. Indeed, I missed that. This is good news. As said, I think I also heard things that are not in the raw rehearsal recording, which might mean it's not "just an edit", but something even more interesting (compared to the 7" edit of "Crystal Ball", let's say, which really is "just an edit").

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I'd have to compare carefully but I've heard a little sound on the CB edit that I usually don't hear (or at least that loud) on the CB98 version (which I literally know by heart), so it might also be a slightly different mix (either the edit is a Bolas mix, or the CB98 is a Buff mix, though I could never hear any difefrence between it and the CB86 version, or both were slithly different mixes made in 86, or maybe I'm just hallucinating and it's the same mix ).

It Be's Like That Sometimes is a revelation for me. I love it. Same with When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes.

But I do prefer the other versions of Crucial and Coco Boys.

holy shit this finished version cements coco boys as one of the best things he ever did. wow. this is gobsmackingly immaculate.

Train...wow, an all time fav. So simple and beautiful. Can he ever sing.

Blanche - just cool. I'm surprised it came out with that lyric....in these times.

imprimis said:

Crucial (Alternate Lyrics) about to drop:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tbLfYMdWI

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Soul Psychodelicide (1986 Master; 2020 Remaster):

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noL2kojuYhs

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OldFriends4Sale said:

imprimis said:

Crucial (Alternate Lyrics) about to drop:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tbLfYMdWI

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Soul Psychodelicide (1986 Master; 2020 Remaster):

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noL2kojuYhs

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All tracks: https://www.youtube.com/p...nKTB6YETjo

i'm so thankful we have the revised Eggplant and the early mix of coco boys. love having options.

Holy shit, this version of Crucial is straight trash. It reminds me of how Prince butchered Elephants & Flowers for Graffiti Bridge.

I guess it's good we have it but the saxphone version is heads and shoulders above this one.

Let me say in simplicity..... I love love love "Crucial".
It is my favourite outtake ever and one of my favourite P songs ever.
I loved it from the first moment I listened to it (on the great "Crucial" bootleg, more than 30 years ago) and my feeling for this song never changed.

I strongly think this alternate version is gorgeous.

I'm obviously used to the original lyrics and mix but this take sound to me like the b-side of the medal, a twin pleasure.

I honestly don't believe at the "new mixes" theory regarding these archive releases ("Originals" was another thing, it was made to offer P's versions of related artists songs and I can manage with some mixing choice and/or use of segments from different mixes of the same track).

To me this version of "Crucial" sounds naturally mixed, in the way P would make at the time.
Also the strings that were never in any of the versions we knew before sounds like something of that time.

On a side note, finally we have an official release that make justice to the CB98 version (wonderful too, but near impossibile to fully appreciate 'cos the butchered ending with that insane fade out).

I'm at the 4th listening in a row of this jewel (I decided to avoid any other track until I can approach this set with my CD Box in hand and my headphones on my ears).
In this moment I'm a happy P fan. Now as more than 30 years ago.

BoraBora said:

Let me say in simplicity..... I love love love "Crucial".
It is my favourite outtake ever and one of my favourite P songs ever.
I loved it from the first moment I listened to it (on the great "Crucial" bootleg, more than 30 years ago) and my feeling for this song never changed.

I strongly think this alternate version is gorgeous.

I'm obviously used to the original lyrics and mix but this take sound to me like the b-side of the medal, a twin pleasure.

I honestly don't believe at the "new mixes" theory regarding these archive releases ("Originals" was another thing, it was made to offer P's versions of related artists songs and I can manage with some mixing choice and/or use of segments from different mixes of the same track).

To me this version of "Crucial" sounds naturally mixed, in the way P would make at the time.
Also the strings that were never in any of the versions we knew before sounds like something of that time.

On a side note, finally we have an official release that make justice to the CB98 version (wonderful too, but near impossibile to fully appreciate 'cos the butchered ending with that insane fade out).

I'm at the 4th listening in a row of this jewel (I decided to avoid any other track until I can approach this set with my CD Box in hand and my headphones on my ears).
In this moment I'm a happy P fan. Now as more than 30 years ago.

New mixes (recreations as identical as possible to the cassette mixdown) aren't the same as Frankenstein mixes (recreations with deliberate alterations to the cassette mixdown). We know for a fact that there are new mixes on here, just not yet which songs. Hopefully there's no frankensteining. I don't believe there is any frankensteining on 1999 except maybe No Call U, and I'm not even sure about that one.

Now it is true that the tapes may have deteriorated considerably since Prince compiled CB98 23 years ago. Strangely enough though, these 1986 tracks seem to sound more muddy than older tracks on Originals and 1999SDE, and that makes no bloody sense so I think it's either me being tired or my mp3 rip being really shitty.

I¿ve never listened to Coco Boys and Crucial or Big Tall Wall and so many here, so they will be completely new to my ears.

databank said:

LoveGalore said:

All this smoke y'all mfers are giving Crucial is bull. The song is brilliant. In whichever form. Prince switched up his lyrics all the time. It's just different than what you're used to. Oh well, heauxs. Get into it.

LoveGalore. Why'd you make me transcribe this junk? Same as Elephants & Flowers, he takes a simple song where he's emotionally vulnerable and just annihilates it.

Baby, let me touch your arm fast tonight

Her scent stayed with me until ???

I couldn't wash my body for fear of losing
The bottom part of my sweet baby's perfume

I ain't saying you're better baby
But I ain't saying you're not
I ain't saying anything until I cop
Our bodies entwined

That's when you'll be mine
For always (and all time wooooooooooooooooo)

Crucial
Baby our love has got to be

Crucial
Everything A to Z
Crucial
You got to show me everything (anything, anything)

*next verse in a way deeper register*

Is that old man river knocking at your door
Saying we got to let more than our feelings show
Baby tonight, don't hold nothing back
I know you got some more
I'll give you mine, if you give me yours

Everything that you learned in school
Baby I need to know
Everything that your momma told you
Oooooo you got to tell me so

Baby I won't stop

Until you let me cop

Your body's a river
I want every drop

Crucial
Baby our love has got to be

Crucial
Everything A to Z
Crucial
You got to show me everything (anything, everything)

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Strive said:

LoveGalore said:

Excerpts of Prince's vibrant lyricism on Sign o The Times: Young is the night It feels so right Don't rush the feeling You got me reeling ... U got the look, got the look You sure enough do be cooking in my book Your face is jamming, your body's hecka slamming If love is good, let's get to ramming ...

Yes haha. Sometimes Prince's lyrics weren't the most deep.

But, in this case, he took a sincere and personal little song and turned it into another lazy exercise of conquest. And it's just as wordy and weird as his changes to Elephants & Flowers.

Baby, you've got to be from a different world
Cause just one look from you could make an army surrender
Baby, you've got to rescue me girl, girl
A prisoner in love with the opposite gender

I ain't saying you're better, babe
but I ain't saying you're not
I ain't saying anything until you stop
Baby stop holding back
cause baby I need a jack of all trades
in a mind and body way babe

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It's not going to win any awards but it's way better than what he replaced it with.

'Soul Psychodelicide' has overdubbed vocals from P and Lisa, new guitar solos, some minor keyboard parts, drum fills (to help disguise edits), and substantial horns parts added later; much of the underlying saxophone work may in fact have been rerecorded in the studio.

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I would venture to speculate that it may not even be drawn literally from the same rehearsal jam recording we have, or at least the circulating portion of it (although it is very similar, most likely from further takes or another tape laid down on the same date). As you already know, something of a 'Data Bank', proto-IGBABN chimera with its repertoire of Counter-Revolution band cues.

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'When the Dawn of the Morning Comes' (and its title) sounds like it is a re-recording and re-working of something from quite a bit earlier. I wouldn't be surprised to learn one day that it recycles (musical ideas, if nothing else) from another late '81-early '83 Vault track. Pre-1999-ish bassline and early-early 1980s Linn, some occasional 1999-ish rhytym guitar (but also some 1986 style playing later on), a more youthful falsetto style than one would expect for the time period(?)— with proto-NPG soul (and soul claps) and Sheila's percussion layered over it. A mixture of analog, digital and Fairlight keyboards.

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It's be like that sometimes reminds me of a Wendy & Lisa track!

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purplepolitician said:

Blanche, yooooo. Was annoyed by the drums being on 1 side n overall wonky quality, but damn if it isn't funky as all ever . It Be's is really cool also

Yeah, the mix is odd...still great stuff.

Strive said:

BlueShakooo said:

bonnie184 said:

“When the dawn of the morning comes” gives me “Trust” vibes.

My first thought also