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Reply #30 posted 09/21/20 11:18pm

Margot

I like what Matt Fink has to say as he is low-key. Doesn't seem to need attention.

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Reply #31 posted 09/22/20 8:53am

Se7en

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Margot said:

I like what Matt Fink has to say as he is low-key. Doesn't seem to need attention.



Listening to that latest SOTT podcast, it was interesting to hear Dr. Fink's explanation of how he was offered the chance to stay in Prince's new band after The Revolution was disbanded. And he was around for a quite a long time after that, through the SOTT/TBA/Lovesexy/Batman eras. So obviously Prince liked him otherwise he would've been gone a lot sooner.

I think Dr. Fink was cool enough to be a unique member of the band, but not anyone who would ever detract from Prince's spotlight.

I also remember when Matt Fink said that in the beginning he was originally supposed to be dressed in a prisoner uniform, but Rick James had something similar in his band so they changed Fink's outfit to a set of doctor's scrubs!



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Reply #32 posted 09/22/20 8:56am

imprimis

That's interesting. Does Fink mean that he riffed a little on the following?

Link: Christopher Cross (1983) - Words of Wisdom


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Reply #33 posted 09/22/20 10:07am

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Se7en said:

Margot said:

I like what Matt Fink has to say as he is low-key. Doesn't seem to need attention.



Listening to that latest SOTT podcast, it was interesting to hear Dr. Fink's explanation of how he was offered the chance to stay in Prince's new band after The Revolution was disbanded. And he was around for a quite a long time after that, through the SOTT/TBA/Lovesexy/Batman eras. So obviously Prince liked him otherwise he would've been gone a lot sooner.

I think Dr. Fink was cool enough to be a unique member of the band, but not anyone who would ever detract from Prince's spotlight.

I also remember when Matt Fink said that in the beginning he was originally supposed to be dressed in a prisoner uniform, but Rick James had something similar in his band so they changed Fink's outfit to a set of doctor's scrubs!



i think the reason Prince wanted to stay is because keyboardist in his band are integral part that holds the band.If he changed a band,keeping a keyboardist from

the previous band would nake rehearsing new band much easier,same case with Morris Hayes.

Like Matt ,Morris survived different incarnations of his bands

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Reply #34 posted 09/22/20 10:51am

imprimis

I am curious whether P might have considered briefly retaining the Revolution name (for live performances, not as billed on the album), had Brownmark stayed.

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Reply #35 posted 09/22/20 1:50pm

Genesia

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steakfinger said:

AMERICA1ST said:

Who gives a shit what Fink as to say? In fact, I have had it with everyone in the Revolution who now have a renewed delusion of relevance since they are the only ones that the media will call for Prince stories

I am a musician. I know how this shit works. Nothing any of these band members says is far-fetched nor does any of it reek of struggling for relevance. If you think Prince was responsible for every idea and every sound on his "band" albums then you're stupid. If he didn't need them and their input he wouldn't have billed it as a band and the credits on those records wouldn't state that the songs were written and performed by Prince and the band. Let me guess, in your mind Prince was just being nice and letting them have some credit they didn't deserve. It's 2020 MF. Get yo shit together.


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Reply #36 posted 09/22/20 2:00pm

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imprimis said:

I am curious whether P might have considered briefly retaining the Revolution name (for live performances, not as billed on the album), had Brownmark stayed.


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Not likely. P evidently wanted it to be pretty clear The Revolution was old news beyond a final send off by including Beautiful Night (and flipping it with Adore, ensuring the album begins and ends with Prince).
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Reply #37 posted 09/22/20 6:46pm

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I love the feel of live Pince for this exact reason. All the musicians inevitably add a part of their personality to the stew. It's inevitable. And thank god for that! To in this case, the amazing Matt Fink!

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Reply #38 posted 09/22/20 11:27pm

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This isn't a brand new story in case that matters to the Revolution haters that think they're expanding their stories.

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Reply #39 posted 09/23/20 8:58am

donnyenglish

It is not news that all of his band members may have had an idea in a rehearsal that Prince then takes to an entirely different level. The woo hoo part of Purple Rain is pure Prince genius. Could it have started out from some progression from Dr. Fink? Sure. Is Dr. Fink responsible for this signature moment? No and I don't think Dr. Fink is claiming ownership of it. He is giving us some insight into the process.

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Prince worked with some really incredible musicians that were stornger musicians than the Revolution later in his career like Larry Graham, Maceo Parker, Sonny T, Sheila E, Cassandra O'Neal, John Blackwell, Ida, etc. I'm sure they all had some great ideas the HE transformed into finished songs. There is a difference between telling us about how Prince's genius enabled him to take an idea during a rehearsal to another level versus those who take credit for the finished product by embellishing.

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Reply #40 posted 09/23/20 4:44pm

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steakfinger said:

AMERICA1ST said:

Who gives a shit what Fink as to say? In fact, I have had it with everyone in the Revolution who now have a renewed delusion of relevance since they are the only ones that the media will call for Prince stories

I am a musician. I know how this shit works. Nothing any of these band members says is far-fetched nor does any of it reek of struggling for relevance. If you think Prince was responsible for every idea and every sound on his "band" albums then you're stupid. If he didn't need them and their input he wouldn't have billed it as a band and the credits on those records wouldn't state that the songs were written and performed by Prince and the band. Let me guess, in your mind Prince was just being nice and letting them have some credit they didn't deserve. It's 2020 MF. Get yo shit together.


I've been a fams since day one, but yep, you would be correct.

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Reply #41 posted 09/24/20 12:25pm

lavendardrumma
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steakfinger said:

Nothing any of these band members says is far-fetched nor does any of it reek of struggling for relevance.


Plus we've heard it on some of the tapes where he appears to be composing on the fly based on a jam and he's saying "that's not ours" or encourages them to stay on something, but change key.

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