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the political relevance of the SOTT album i know some people have been pissed off that people like dave chappelle are talking up the SOTT album as a political one, or a socially conscious one, but i think its pretty easy to see why. i have picked out two songs to prove that this was indeed princes political masterpiece, but you can find many more examples across the album (ill try and write about them later).
play in the sunshine - a song about climate warming. prince is urging us to party in the sun while we still can, before the earth heats up to an untenable level, one in which playing outdoors will no longer be possible, or pleasurable.
housequake - inspired by prince's fear of earthquakes after experiencing one, he suggests a party as seismic as an earthquake, but knows that such a gathering would attract unwanted attention from the police ('Come on you all, we got to jam
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Play In The Sunshine is NOT about climate change.
What were you doing in 1986? I was working as a journalist and - trust me - nobody was talking about the global warming wealth redistribution scheme under any name back then. It was all AIDS, all the time. That is, until the stock market tanked in October of 1987. [Edited 9/18/20 12:33pm] We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Other than the title song and maybe The Cross, I don´t really see what would make SOTT a political album. One could argue that If I Was Your Girlfriend has a somewhat gender-related message but even that would be a little bit of a stretch. I´d like to know what you find political about this album. Just curious.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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What a silly statement, Sign and The Cross are as political as SOTT album gets. | |
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Hot Thing was a song about stolen goods and economic stress I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man was actually about genetics and cloning, Prince was always riding the cutting edge on biotechnology Strange Relationship was about the Cold War | |
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this thread is really going over people's heads, huh | |
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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i would actually say hot thing is abou younger women experiencing the 'ennui' of modern life, trying to make something of herself while also having to pay for a qualification through a job such as stripping ('when you smile, when you smile, when you smile
could never take the place.. is similiarly empathic towards a struggling woman, indicating prince understands the plight of single mothers struggling to raise children on their own, and not having enough sex-ed on birth control, which is why she has another child on the way. it is a pro-choice song, quite clearly. not sure about genetics and cloning, but its possible.
both foreshadow the third, modern wave of feminism.
if i was your girlfriend meanwhile predicts the current 'sexuality wars', where trans people are fighting for their rights. the song indicates prince is clearly in support of gender fluidity/ambivalence/self-identification. if this was released today, it would be incendiary. [Edited 9/18/20 14:55pm] | |
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You can stop now. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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i would actually say hot thing is abou younger women experiencing the 'ennui' of modern life, trying to make something of herself while also having to pay for a qualification through a job such as stripping ('when you smile, when you smile, when you smile
could never take the place.. is similiarly empathic towards a struggling woman, indicating prince understands the plight of single mothers struggling to raise children on their own, and not having enough sex-ed on birth control, which is why she has another child on the way. it is a pro-choice song, quite clearly. not sure about genetics and cloning, but its possible.
both foreshadow the third, modern wave of feminism.
if i was your girlfriend meanwhile predicts the current 'sexuality wars', where trans people are fighting for their rights. the song indicates prince is clearly in support of gender fluidity/ambivalence/self-identification. if this was released today, it would be incendiary. [Edited 9/18/20 14:55pm] Honestly I'm surprised you didn't see how Starfish & Coffee was Prince's way of demanding more funding for mental health and showing support for rioters (Cynthia was mentally ill, yes, but she also led a vanguard that spray painted epithets in schools across the nation). I'm actually shocked the estate didn't release the 1995 version as a BLM fundraising mechanism. | |
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I dig this point of view actually. Well we could say Starfish and Coffee it's a social commentary on individualism and self awareness. | |
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What other names have you posted under? Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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TrivialPursuit said: What other names have you posted under? | |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: housequake - inspired by prince's fear of earthquakes after experiencing one, he suggests a party as seismic as an earthquake, but knows that such a gathering would attract unwanted attention from the police ('Come on you all, we got to jam Before the police come'), demonstrating awareness of how the law is inclined to clamp down on large gatherings of people assembled to enjoy themselves, esp during environmental catastrophes. wow! I wonder if this song helped him cope with earthquakes and police and large crowds of people I will take my place, In the great below | |
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. Also, besides the title song and possibly The Cross, how is SOTT more political than any other Prince record? I mean one can adopt the "personal is political" perspective and analyze anything from a political standpoint, but at the end of the day most SOTT songs are intropsective songs talking about personal situations, not political statements. . At the end of the day, I think Prince's coup de force was to wear glasses on the album cover. This little trick did wonders when it came to giving Prince an appearance of maturity. Add to this the title track's politically aware lyrics and its conceptual music video; the pseudo jazz vibe illustrated mostly by Now's The Time during the subsequent tour, that gave P an allure of sophistication (Sting had just pulled the same trick to much critical acclaim); the pseudo gay-friendly ambiguity of IIWYG at a time when an AIDS struggling gay community was affirming itself; and the fact that some pseudo indie rock songs (ICNTTPOYM and The Cross) were able to please an emerging, new generation of hip, intellectual rock critics that swore only by U2 and The Smiths, and you had the perfect mix for 1987. . Don't get me wrong, I love SOTT, I think it's a masterpiece, but I suspect there is a world between the reasons true Prince fans love it and the reason the avarage rock critic loves it. When it comes to suddenly elevating Prince as an intellectual indie rock critics' favorite, SOTT was, in fact, the scam of the decade A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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lol...word | |
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It was about civil protest. I want to protest baby every day, alright. It’s about enacting social change by mobilising the masses. Doin’ it is protesting. | |
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It is actually about praying. Nothing political there. It's just meant to seem like its sex but prince in fact smuggled in a song about praying under this guise of it being about carnal matters. That's why the vocal is a bit dispassionate. As he is disappointed he couldnt make it more explicit about God. | |
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I like this, it's fun | |
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This is ridiculous. How can it be about JK Rowling? She didn't publish Harry Potter until TEN years after SOTT came out? IIWYG is clearly about Joe Biden's unsuccessful 88 presidential run, announced in eary 87. Prince hopes his sense of style can make Biden a successful candidate ("would you let me dress you") and - alarmingly - is already concerned about Biden's cognitive abilities ("all the things you forgot") [Edited 9/20/20 3:53am] | |
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Careful, OP. If you reach any further, you're gonna fall off your chair. | |
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Genesia said: Play In The Sunshine is NOT about climate change.
What were you doing in 1986? I was working as a journalist and - trust me - nobody was talking about the global warming wealth redistribution scheme under any name back then. It was all AIDS, all the time. That is, until the stock market tanked in October of 1987. [Edited 9/18/20 12:33pm] Yup. | |
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This is ridiculous. How can it be about JK Rowling? She didn't publish Harry Potter until TEN years after SOTT came out? IIWYG is clearly about Joe Biden's unsuccessful 88 presidential run, announced in eary 87. Prince hopes his sense of style can make Biden a successful candidate ("would you let me dress you") and - alarmingly - is already concerned about Biden's cognitive abilities ("all the things you forgot") [Edited 9/20/20 3:53am] | |
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It really is funny though how Strange Relationship has maintained its relevancy, originally written as a study of the political, historical, social and cultural bonds that bind the UK and the US, commonly referred to as the ‘special relationship’. P cleverly turned that term on its head with this tune, perhaps foreshadowing (perhaps forseeing?) Brexit and the UK’s need for closer ties with the US in trade and defence. ‘I guess you know me well I don’t like winter’ is the subservient UK pleading with the dominant US, referencing ‘The Winter of Discontent’ in 1978 where economic meltdown and a recession provoked the widespread strikes by thousands of British workers employed by the state, where bins weren’t collected for months, bodies remained unburied with frequent electrify blackouts. ‘I seem to get a kick out of doing you cold’ is the response line from the US, expressing the need for closer bonds to fight the Soviet menace in the Cold War and how pleasant victory will be for both nation states. | |
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It's about the Roman Empire and the rise of nationalism. | |
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