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Thread started 09/17/20 10:56am

BartVanHemelen

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"Dave Chappelle on Prince’s Legacy: ‘He Literally Was a Sign of the Times’"

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Reply #1 posted 09/17/20 3:55pm

funkbabyandthe
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"one of the preeminent lyricists for my generation".

Hmmm. Never heard prince praised as a lyricist before.
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Reply #2 posted 09/18/20 8:40am

AMERICA1ST

Chappelle has ont nearly as relevant as the media makes him. He is a comic - thats all.

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Reply #3 posted 09/18/20 9:08am

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The media, obsessed with the divisions in 2020, are trying to paint SOTT as Prince's 'What's Going On".

The SOTT album has one social commentary track on it, and the rest is typical Prince subject matter.
Apocalypse, partying, religion, love and sex.

SOTT is my favourite album, but in political terms, its not exactly "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back". For Howe and others to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

The elements "Prince was exploring on this album that are relevant today" was mostly fucking.

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Reply #4 posted 09/18/20 5:02pm

FanAllMyLife

AMERICA1ST said:

Chappelle has ont nearly as relevant as the media makes him. He is a comic - thats all.

That's all???

What are you? I'm curious.

You put yourself on such a high pedestal to be looking down at Chappelle so I'm curious.

What are you?

And what does it matter who or what you are.

What matters is that Dave Chappelle, arguably the greatest if not one of the greatest comedians of all time, is singing Prince's praises.

Who's on your Mount Rushmore of comedians?

I'd put Chappelle, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, and Don Rickles.

Dave Chappelle is one of the greatest comedians of all time homie.

Sorry, but you got under my skin.

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Reply #5 posted 09/18/20 5:18pm

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Matters of the caca dooky n the stinky stinky.
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Reply #6 posted 09/18/20 8:18pm

Strive

SquirrelMeat said:

The media, obsessed with the divisions in 2020, are trying to paint SOTT as Prince's 'What's Going On".

The SOTT album has one social commentary track on it, and the rest is typical Prince subject matter.
Apocalypse, partying, religion, love and sex.

SOTT is my favourite album, but in political terms, its not exactly "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back". For Howe and others to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

The elements "Prince was exploring on this album that are relevant today" was mostly fucking.



Thanks for the elegant take. That's pretty much what I was trying to say, just way less angry.

Even the title track isn't really social commentary. It was Prince using all these horrible things from the headlines as a way to say "look, we are living in the end days as written in the bible" and railing against hopelessness.
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Reply #7 posted 09/18/20 8:34pm

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look. i am in MASSIVE favor of social commentary and all the themes they'd like to apply to the album, but it's just not fitting. doesn't work here, they should write some music where it does work instead of trying to make it work on a 30+ year old album.

the title track is the only vaguely political thing on the album, and even then is it really some sort of scathing commentary? no not really. i don't think he was ever particuarly gifted at expressing political opinions in the first place, and certainly had some moments (mostly in the 2000s...) where his takes were straight up juvenile nonsense.

the album is like 95 percent personal. his problems, not the world's problems. how can they not hear that? his thoughts on life as it related to him. try to shoehorn political meaning into "slow love" or "u got the look". it really is just ridiculous considering there's only one song on the entire double album that is political.

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Reply #8 posted 09/18/20 8:39pm

LoveGalore

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look. i am in MASSIVE favor of social commentary and all the themes they'd like to apply to the album, but it's just not fitting. doesn't work here, they should write some music where it does work instead of trying to make it work on a 30+ year old album.

the title track is the only vaguely political thing on the album, and even then is it really some sort of scathing commentary? no not really. i don't think he was ever particuarly gifted at expressing political opinions in the first place, and certainly had some moments (mostly in the 2000s...) where his takes were straight up juvenile nonsense.

the album is like 95 percent personal. his problems, not the world's problems. how can they not hear that? his thoughts on life as it related to him. try to shoehorn political meaning into "slow love" or "u got the look". it really is just ridiculous considering there's only one song on the entire double album that is political.



Listen, mate, if you can't see the subtext hiding in plain sight on Hot Thing that is a takedown of the public education system then I dunno what to tell ya.
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