todesm said: camilleisfunky said: That horn line sounds very familiar... I'm sure he used it elsewhere, perhaps live in concert, just can't put my finger on it. The Horn line is the guitar line in James Brown's "soul Power" There is some Musicology on it ! | |
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Great song Welcome 2 The Dawn | |
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I was 99% sure it was Controversy, but didn't want Bart to be like 'if you care so much about this, why didn't you go check it out?'...you see, I'm at work and don't have time to research things. Doesn't prevent me from playing this back to back 50 times! Great song. | |
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I likes.......... [Edited 9/17/20 11:56am] FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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This is wild. Yes, he used that horn riff during live versions of Kiss. It kind of reminds me of I Want Your Sex by George Michael. I mean musically, not in terms of production. | |
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Song of the Heart? | |
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An odd, if enjoyable choice. Most of us know from the bootleg scene that there are stronger songs featured on the set, that were not intended for female artist(s) and are far superior. Still, it's a fun, funky romp, but if it had been recorded anytime after 1989, most critics would've considered it 'disposable'.
Why an insanely monstrous ear-worm like 'Emotional Pump' was not released as a single I will never know. There's literally an embarassment of riches to highlight. * [Edited 9/17/20 12:02pm] | |
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I heard Song of the Heart in this too | |
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That IS amazing considering he didn't write it for Bonnie Raitt. Your imagination is a powerful thing. Emotional Pump is about as far away from Joni Mitchell's "voice" as it gets lyrically, yet he somehow thought that would be appropriate for her to sing. I think I disagree with your hypothesis. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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I would say...it was dumb...that she didn't take this song on her album...because...people like me bought albums with Prince-input back in those days...even it was only produced ...or written..by Prince...like Madonna, No Doubt, Nona Hendryx, Patti Labelle, Sheena Easton, James Brown with Aretha.....etc.
it would had brought her new fans and more money
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Pellwormer said: I would say...it was dumb...that she didn't take this song on her album...because...people like me bought albums with Prince-input back in those days...even it was only produced ...or written..by Prince...like Madonna, No Doubt, Nona Hendryx, Patti Labelle, Sheena Easton, James Brown with Aretha.....etc.
it would had brought her new fans and more money
[Edited 9/17/20 13:09pm] All due respect, but at the time she had her pick of hit producers and I don't think she made the wrong choice. None of these songs, written for The Hookers lol, strike me as too Bonnie Raitt. | |
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Did she? Her career was pretty stagnant at the time. Her big comeback wasn't until a couple of years later. | |
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Pellwormer said: I would say...it was dumb...that she didn't take this song on her album...because...people like me bought albums with Prince-input back in those days...even it was only produced ...or written..by Prince...like Madonna, No Doubt, Nona Hendryx, Patti Labelle, Sheena Easton, James Brown with Aretha.....etc.
it would had brought her new fans and more money
[Edited 9/17/20 13:09pm] She had very successful Albums in '89 and' 91. https://en.wikipedia.org/...prov=sfla1 NPG Radio:
https://open.spotify.com/...63VlWY6m1A | |
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This is a great version of I Need A Man... very cool! | |
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http://princetext.tripod....one90.html
While being so productive on his own, Prince has also found time to produce such disparate talents as Mavis Staples, George Clinton and Bonnie Raitt. "The best thing about producing is that there are so many really talented people who just never got that push over the top," he says. "Without that push, they just get lost."
Raitt was perhaps his most talked-about reclamation project. "Oh, those sessions were kicking!" Prince says. But nothing was ever released -- a fact which Prince takes the blame for. "There was no particular reason it didn't come out," he says. "I was just working on a lot of things at the same time, and I didn't give myself enough time to work with her. I used to do that a lot -- start five different projects and only get a couple done. That's the biggest thing I'm working on: patience and planning."
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Her 1989 album Nick of time sold more copies than Parade, SOTT and Lovesexy combined. I think she did fine own her own. . | |
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Also, taking Prince songs means they have to fit with the rest of the record. Now I haven't heard Nick Of Time but would P's tracks have fit on it? Often enough, P's tracks kind of stood out as the best - but weirdest - songs on an album when he'd only write one or 2 tunes. True, he was in demand as a songwriter and people still got a few hits out of him after 1986, but the number of people who only purchased a record because Prince was on it was probably relatively low even at the time. It's nearly impossible to estimate, but maybe a few dozen thousands at best. It could be a cool boost for relatively small acts such as Candy Dulfer, Lois Lane or Louie Louie, but I doubt it brought a significant percentage of sales to the likes of Madonna, Joe Cocker or Céline Dion, and Bonnie Raitt was def in that category at the time. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Nothing great but a good song nonetheless and I do hear Song Of The Heart as well. | |
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Makes me thing it'd be funny if the estate manages to talk some artists into covering (or singing for the first time) songs P offered them but they declined to use. Some are dead unfortunately, but it'd be cool to hear Martika's rendition of Open Book, Violent Femme's rendition of Wonderful Ass, Joni's rendition of Emotional Pump, etc. We should actually make a list of songs artists declined to use (outside of songs considered for side projects, maybe, because the list then becomes endless, besides P often decided himself against using such or such song), it'd be interesting. . Out of memory: . DEAD: Joe Cocker: Old Friends 4 Sale James Brown: Chocolate (not sure if this one's confirmed but it was reported in the 90's, a 1986 submission IIRC) Michael Jackson: Wouldn't You love To Love Me Miles Davis: Penetration, Jailbait and A Girl And Her Puppy Robert Palmer: Lust U Always . ALIVE: Madonna: By Alien Means Joni Mitchel: Emotional Pump Bonnie Raitt: I Need A Man, Jealous Girl, Promise 2 Be True and There’s Something I Like About Being Your Fool George Clinton: My Pony Tevin Campbell: Down and The P Violent Femmes: Wonderful Ass Martika: Open Book Candy Dulfer: several unknwon tracks for her 2nd album Dale: The Latest Fashion and 2nd Thoughts Mazarati: Jerk Out The Three O'Clock: Girl O’ My Dreams, We Can Funk, Teacher, Teacher and Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got Taja Sevelle: I think she mentioned a song but she couldn't remember the title . What did I forget? [Edited 9/17/20 17:16pm] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Was Bonnie Raitt supposed to do the little rap section too? | |
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What an amazing track! | |
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Here is some info on that time Bonnie and Prince worked together, in case anyone cares:
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TrivialPursuit said:
It reminds me of "U're All I Want". [Edited 9/17/20 18:55pm] | |
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"Holy cow"! I like it & I'm so glad to get shortly this massive release! In fact, I like all Price songs despite....."The P." & "Work That Fat" as Questlove. "Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search." | |
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. They were recorded in a studio in Germany in 1991 (but never released, obviously): "Around 60 minutes of music was recorded – three takes of “Penetration”, (Garrett on alto sax), five takes of “Jailbait” (with Garrett on baritone sax) and two takes of “A Girl And Her Puppy,” (Garrett played soprano sax)." . More information here: https://www.thelastmiles....-albrecht/ | |
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Can’t say i’m feeling this one... its meh Cool to hear the horns from Controversy live 86 and its groovy but aside from that i’m not into this. | |
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- It's a little Prince's gem, just great to hear in this superb quality. I love me some Bonnie Raitt, and for that reason I love this song, thinking of her, and what a wonderful artist and a superd amazing guitarist she actually is. I love her version too, but it's in such a bad bootleg quality, shame. - So, eight more nights - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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I love this song. Prince sang it better than Bonnie Raitt. Love the horns. "I want to be the only one you come for...." | |
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