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It's not about him leaving WB, it's the accesibility of digital cameras and Photoshop plugins. Most of the Prince aesthetic got corny and amateurish with what looks like free shareware fonts. Same problem you see with the bad hip hop covers of that time.
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Exactly. it had to do with digitial taking over and trends changing.
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lustmealways said: almost all his cover art, the first time i see it i'm like "wow this is sort of dumb looking" but as you become more and more familiar with the music, you start to see the covers as being part of that glorious album soup and it warms up on you, much like a bowl of soup. [Edited 9/5/20 12:29pm] What is masterful about the 3121 cover lol? It's just some random near-candid. Like that one and Musicology, it just has zero connection to that music. Like eating soup with cereal in it instead. | |
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it's a stark and bare picture but still manages to sound like the warmth i associate with the album, maybe it's the orangeish colors in the background | |
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Think of the song 3121 when he is inviting you to come to a place you can never leave. It sounds foreboding but really its probably heaven literally. That is what the cover reminds me of. Prince's back is turned to us and in shadow but he is half turned like he knows you are behind him following him. The front of him however is a warm sunlight glow--like he is leading you to the light or to a brightly colored joyful party off to the side. Plus, the title luminating off the back of the shirt looks cool.. The contrast of light and dark is kind of typical of Prince himself. It probably is just a photo of Afshin's that he liked so he included it on the cover, but it's a great choice in my opinion.
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The 3121 cover is pretty good.
It's at least a decent/unusual/memorable photograph, and not of his face in a strange looking expression as in the last few years. Anything is better than the terrible graphics he was usually working with during this period. [Edited 9/5/20 22:52pm] | |
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- Every artwork, style and looks before 1990, created some iconic imagery everyone remebers and recognises as such. He was huge back then, was a rising star, inventive, young and daring plus taking the lead on most levels, musicaly and style wise on basically a yearly basis. Every new album, a complete new Prince ! For that I believe it's possible to state that largely the first decade we all know so well is what made him most remembered and even resulted in a caricature look on Prince in a positive way. The Purple Rain era for sure ! Up till this day it's how Prince often/mostly is portrayed. I agree with most poeple here that lateron (after 1989) his art and changes didn't always match the ongoing aesthetics, looks and tastes of that time. All is personal of course. My rate on the albums from the beginning; - FOR YOU -
PRINCE -
DIRTY MIND -
CONTROVERSY -
1999 -
PURPLE RAIN -
AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY -
PARADE -
SIGN 'O' THE TIMES -
LOVESEXY -
BATMAN -
GRAFFITI BRIDGE -
All the other albums that came after this did not do much to the remembrance of his style and art. Yes there are images here and there that stayed somehow. Certainly the 2004 era, and for sure his later afro style with the third eye glasses. Sometimes he did a good album cover art, like Art Official Age and Plectrum Electrum, which are stand outs for me somehow ! Great art and imagery. But unfortunately not often used or recognised as such. All the rest looks out of style for it's period to me. He changed a lot, but never got to iconic imagery again. Except maybe for the afro ! He somehow was a step ahead with that again.
Albums art and style like THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE, MPLS, ONE NIGHT ALONE..., THE VAULT, 3121 are personaly the worst; zero out of 10. Bash me. -
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I agree, picking album covers was not Prince's best developed skill. RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... | |
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I quite like Art Official Age. But your obeservation is of course true. See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star... | |
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Vannormal said: - Every artwork, style and looks before 1990, created some iconic imagery everyone remebers and recognises as such. He was huge back then, was a rising star, inventive, young and daring plus taking the lead on most levels, musicaly and style wise on basically a yearly basis. Every new album, a complete new Prince ! For that I believe it's possible to state that largely the first decade we all know so well is what made him most remembered and even resulted in a caricature look on Prince in a positive way. The Purple Rain era for sure ! Up till this day it's how Prince often/mostly is portrayed. I agree with most poeple here that lateron (after 1989) his art and changes didn't always match the ongoing aesthetics, looks and tastes of that time. All is personal of course. My rate on the albums from the beginning; - FOR YOU -
PRINCE -
DIRTY MIND -
CONTROVERSY -
1999 -
PURPLE RAIN -
AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY -
PARADE -
SIGN 'O' THE TIMES -
LOVESEXY -
BATMAN -
GRAFFITI BRIDGE -
All the other albums that came after this did not do much to the remembrance of his style and art. Yes there are images here and there that stayed somehow. Certainly the 2004 era, and for sure his later afro style with the third eye glasses. Sometimes he did a good album cover art, like Art Official Age and Plectrum Electrum, which are stand outs for me somehow ! Great art and imagery. But unfortunately not often used or recognised as such. All the rest looks out of style for it's period to me. He changed a lot, but never got to iconic imagery again. Except maybe for the afro ! He somehow was a step ahead with that again.
Albums art and style like THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE, MPLS, ONE NIGHT ALONE..., THE VAULT, 3121 are personaly the worst; zero out of 10. Bash me. -
Great posting. Thank you. And yes, the point is not necessarily that all WB artwork was amazing but that it was usually highly memorable and just designed with more imagination and professionalism/budget than what came after. Idk how ppl think chaos and disorder looks bad though. Weird. It's a great cover. The vault though, is quite bad. I'd still take that over NEWS though! But AOA isnt bad ofc. Some thought and care obv went into that one. [Edited 9/6/20 7:19am] | |
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Left off The Black Album... which going the opposite way, and not even having the name Prince on it, or even an album name... was genius (to me). Just the functional peach info and catalog numbers on the labels. Were the sleeves clear or black? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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Black album design is just modeled on the Beatles white album.... | |
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. Nope, the Beatles album has embossed "The Beatles" on it, it has information about the tracks and the artist on it and the label is the standard Apple Records label. The Black album, in contrast, has no information about the album on the cover at all and has a bespoke label on the record with only the song titles on it. The Black album cover takes the minimalism to a very different level from the selftitled album by the Beatles with the white cover. Paisley Park is in your heart - Love Is Here! | |
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The covers of prince books also suck, while I'm at it. Those Duane tudahl books should look better. | |
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- Good Lawd ! How could I miss out on that one. I think it was just plain ''genius''. Black was the perfect choice for him being black and all... Yes there's a link to The Beatles for sure. But that's just the point. White musicians - white album, black musician - black album... His funk needed that. As if it was somehow his answer to critics that thought he lost his funky, right? That was the story i believe... So black funk it was, nearly anonymous, well planned, and damn does it funk - sure he knew some leak would push the album even more. He played the market (still) at this point. The whole idea was a splendid fuck you (if it had been released), and a damn good one considdered the situation in his carreer, that in your face black uncomparable funk. Just a fantastic idea and the deliberate lack of imagery and fonds. Just some orange cat.nr on the side. Surely a 10 out of 10. It even had no name ! How about that. It became what we now know it is. The most bootlegged album in the history of music I believe they say. - Shame he had to take that damn XTC he got from Cat who had it from Flea ? Wasn't that somehow the story ? And poor young Prince thought he missed out on something, and was tempted to try it, cause and effect; started having a very bad trip. Just imagine, for a guy who needs to control everything every second of the day, basically trusting no one. Just imagine how bad that trip must've been. Tiny body and all, living a healthy life... It certainly wasn't a wise thing to do. The rest we know as history; the withdrawn of this great album back then. And then again, IF the Black Album was released, we most possibly wouldn't have that marvelous Lovesexy album now, wouldn't we?! Strange it all was for sure. (It might drove him right into the religeous approach of things... who knows.) The re-release in 1994 lost it's effect imho. Still glad it's out there, officialy on CD. Would be great to have a Record Store Day reprint on vinyl, AND remastered of course. We/I can dream, can't we/I. -
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I would agree that most likely somoene brought up the fact that a black album with nothing was kind of like the legendary White Album that had mostly nothing on the front and back. But Prince went further and took his name off of it as well. Seems like Prince intended for the album to be called "Funk Bible" (as early press releases and the slowed vocal intro in Le Grind describe) but the nickname "The Black Album" must have stuck so he switched to that.
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i had a good stare at the emancipation cover today and have come to realize that it's actually not that bad looking. | |
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Sorry but I think you really have no taste in design, but I'm happy for you that you like all that stuff. And don't get me wrong, I love some on your list, some I like, but you lost all credibility when liking emancipation. Both on a design level as on the technical part, it's really REALLY bad. The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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It's stark and bare but also a bit boring. I would regard it as a good start for the cover (the image isn't that bad). It misses some refinement. The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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i like it on a symbolic level... as for your opinions on credibility and taste, they are irrelevant and/or asinine [Edited 9/9/20 8:47am] | |
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Largely agree with this list though I thought the cover of Diamonds and Pearls wasn't too bad. Not iconic maybe, but not bad. And sometimes it was a near miss; The booklet of Musicology was still fun but the cover art was terrible photoshop stuff. Same goes for Emancipation. The Rainbow children, ONA live (box) and Lotusflow3r are the ones that jump out in a positive way in the latter years.
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I understand you like it as to what it needs to symbolize but it was such an unprofessional job and that's just a real pity. The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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I think Dirty Mind, Controversy, What Time Is It? 1999 Vanity 6 Purple Rain, Glamorous Life, ATWIAD, Parade, the Family, Romance 1600, Parade, Mazarati, Madhouse 8/16 SOTT Lovesexy
were really good Prince album covers. I appreciate For You and Prince for the simplicity of the times. They feel like 1970s times
Everything after this period was not working for me. I like the Rave Rainbow Children 3121 Planet Earth AOA covers
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For the most part, kind of boring. I like 3121 and Planet Earth. I love the Rainbow Children cover. They are not as good as earlier covers. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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There are no great covers after Lovesexy. As others said it is not a WB related problem. Some are nice, like Rainbow Children or NEWS, but most of them are graphically poor or amateurish. | |
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Kares said: IMO the Warner releases had a consistently high quality artwork up until Graffiti Bridge – that's where the serious problems started. The Graffiti Bridge cover is just awful, and from then on, there were only a handful of good covers. Diamonds & Pearls, The Hits and Come were okayish, but the vast majority varies between amateurish and downright horrendous, with Emancipation, ONA(Piano) and Chocolate Invasion & Slaughterhouse being the absolute low points. . . [Edited 9/5/20 8:05am] . What the actual frig? . One person’s trash, another person’s treasure. . I love the Graffiti Bridge cover - what a great work of art. . Might be my personal favorite in fact! I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here. | |
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I really love The Rainbow Children Artwork. I even have a poster framed
Overall I agree the Warner Artwork was better. It does not suck, still some good Artwork, like 3121 and One Nite Alone (live) [Edited 9/11/20 9:20am] | |
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He had some great designers, photographers and artists working with him post WB (producing some great work), but when it came down to the final choices about the album art and direction, Prince seemed to make the wrong decisions in a lot of instances. I won't go into specific albums but most had something about them that just spoiled them in some way (fonts, photography, his choice of outfit/image etc). I think he was trying to break away from the 'boring' WB format of the simple typography with a nice photo, but didn't always see it through in the best way. I think it got better, maybe the earlier NPG records suffered from this - the one's on major labels tended to be a bit better IMO. | |
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