TrivialPursuit said:

funkman88 said:

he did think so ..Bobby was picked cuz he was white....morris was much better but Prince wanted interracial band and he was copying sly stone..

LOL OKAY THEN

lol

yeah that's always the go to. But Bobby Z was there in the studios working before Prince recordedhis first album. Those early studios Sound80 MoonSound etc
And they jammed together and Bobby played on 94East(did I type that correctly)
Prince like Bobby's energy and maturity.

the mixed race component came later.

Prince said, he chose Bobby because he watched and followed him and stayed on the point. He said Morris was flashy in his playing and didn't want that.

anyone not putting bland at the tippy top of their list is deluding themselves

lustmealways said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

thebanishedone said:

funkman88 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Prince lol But then - Sheila John blackwell Michael b/Bobby z Hannah welton

Was that a real compliment of Prince...Sorry I am being a troll...

In all seriousness, Prince had a raw talent for drumming...others were more proficient but he was super creative, knew how to keep in the pocket and was a brilliant drum programmer..

As for the rest...

Sheila is more of a percussionist than a standard drummer...so I will have rank her a bit lower here even though she is better overall than any of them on the list when it comes to percussion.

Leaving Prince off...

Michael B

John Blackwell

Sheila

Hannah Welton

Bobby Z...

Prince had enough white people in his band already to make a point about racial diversity. I agree. Bobby Z did what he was told. Morris likes attention more. Morris is a good drummer but he really didn't play for Prince all that much. Some say he played on Irrestible Bitch and we know he played on a sizable chunk of the Time songs (when they were not programmed by Prince), but Irrestible bitch is disputable.

OldFriends4Sale said:

TrivialPursuit said:

LOL OKAY THEN

lol

yeah that's always the go to. But Bobby Z was there in the studios working before Prince recordedhis first album. Those early studios Sound80 MoonSound etc
And they jammed together and Bobby played on 94East(did I type that correctly)
Prince like Bobby's energy and maturity.

the mixed race component came later.

Prince said, he chose Bobby because he watched and followed him and stayed on the point. He said Morris was flashy in his playing and didn't want that.

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Shannon319 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Prince lol But then - Sheila John blackwell Michael b/Bobby z Hannah welton

Was that a real compliment of Prince...Sorry I am being a troll...

In all seriousness, Prince had a raw talent for drumming...others were more proficient but he was super creative, knew how to keep in the pocket and was a brilliant drum programmer..

As for the rest...

Sheila is more of a percussionist than a standard drummer...so I will have rank her a bit lower here even though she is better overall than any of them on the list when it comes to percussion.

Leaving Prince off...

Michael B

John Blackwell

Sheila

Hannah Welton

Bobby Z...

I would suggest you go back and listen to Dance On

RJOrion said:

TrivialPursuit said:

LOL OKAY THEN

im not sure how true it is, but funkman88 might be quoting Morris Day who has said the same thing on different occasions.

its true morris said it on david letterman i think...he said Bobby z couldnt fuck with him on the drums and prince agreed but he wanted a white drummer...prince ;oved hendrix...hendrix white drummer was a beast though

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funkman88 said:

its true morris said it on david letterman i think...he said Bobby z couldnt fuck with him on the drums and prince agreed but he wanted a white drummer...prince ;oved hendrix...hendrix white drummer was a beast though

morris said it in his book too

Morris said a lot in his book, some obviously wrong.
Like Morris' claim that P submitted Shampayne tapes to the record companies and that's what got him his WB contract.
BUT it's confirmed everywhere else that P recorded his own demos at Sound80 after beng signed by Owen Husney.
Morris had a lot of passive aggression in his book but never realizes what he was given by P.

Well next to Andre, Bobby was the first (Jewish technically) Bobby played with Prince in connection to 94East

Yeah Irresistable Bitch is the same drumming from Cloren Bacon Skin but whether Prince just used Morris's playing or copied it etc Morris hasn't talked about it

But yeah a lot of the Time music is Morris on drums

Shannon319 said:

Prince had enough white people in his band already to make a point about racial diversity. I agree. Bobby Z did what he was told. Morris likes attention more. Morris is a good drummer but he really didn't play for Prince all that much. Some say he played on Irrestible Bitch and we know he played on a sizable chunk of the Time songs (when they were not programmed by Prince), but Irrestible bitch is disputable.

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol

yeah that's always the go to. But Bobby Z was there in the studios working before Prince recordedhis first album. Those early studios Sound80 MoonSound etc
And they jammed together and Bobby played on 94East(did I type that correctly)
Prince like Bobby's energy and maturity.

the mixed race component came later.

Prince said, he chose Bobby because he watched and followed him and stayed on the point. He said Morris was flashy in his playing and didn't want that.

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laytonian said:

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1 and 2 - Blackwell and Bland in a dead heat

3 - Sheila E

4 - Cora

5 - Kirk

I only included drummers who were officially in Prince's band. I also excluded Prince.

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funkman88 said:

cant believe no one said Kirky J

I did - I will take him over Bobby Z any day.

1a) Michael Bland

1b) John Blackwell

3) Morris (he did more than enough studio work to qualify)

4) Sheila

5) Bobby Z

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Very good point

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Bobby Z in terms of understanding Princes vision and how great his pocket is. check pro shot of NY81 on utub

Michael Bland amazing player he can do any style perfect.

brought a lot of testosterone to Princes sound

Cora CC Dunham

she is a great drummer playing with ferocity and balls

almost unseen when it comes to female drummers

Sheila E nice fluent in the pocket drumming

John Blackwell amazing flash,not that much pocket but lot of great dynamics.

honorable mention

Prince

From I Wanna Be Your Lover to Glass Cutter was a long way to go.Prince was a very good

underrated drummer who could have play drums for any pop rock funk band.

Very distinctive and simple style at the early days with characteristic light kick sound

but latter on his drumming became more complex,influenced by great drummers that played with him.

Princes drumming on Glass Cutter is one of his best.hi hat work is insane.

thebanishedone said:

Bobby Z in terms of understanding Princes vision and how great his pocket is. check pro shot of NY81 on utub

Michael Bland amazing player he can do any style perfect.

brought a lot of testosterone to Princes sound

Cora CC Dunham

she is a great drummer playing with ferocity and balls

almost unseen when it comes to female drummers

Sheila E nice fluent in the pocket drumming

John Blackwell amazing flash,not that much pocket but lot of great dynamics.

honorable mention

Prince

From I Wanna Be Your Lover to Glass Cutter was a long way to go.Prince was a very good

underrated drummer who could have play drums for any pop rock funk band.

Very distinctive and simple style at the early days with characteristic light kick sound

but latter on his drumming became more complex,influenced by great drummers that played with him.

Princes drumming on Glass Cutter is one of his best.hi hat work is insane.

hmm roger linn .always in the pocket .. never tried to write stuff.. perfect band mate