- No he wasn't. He was very very good, for a big part of his carreer Who says that the Revolution was better than Prince ? Where is that fact ? -
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- Oh yeah ! Pleeeeaaase, dear Estate ... More of that please ! - That's where we are able to get to know the real magic. - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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- I'd like to copy paste that. Thank you ! Or like some say "THIS". - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Aw... poor babies. Whining like they never worked a day in the industry. Prince paid for every minute that they were playing Patty Cake in his studio. I am not the one on a podcast about a seminal album crying about my employer from 30 years ago not using my obscure piece, or other tinkerings I may have done, which is quite a normal reality for anyone who works. And all of Wendy's contributions to the songs she was on were credited. Also, there is no 'deluxe record' -- this everything but the kitchen sink release from the estate is not Prince's SOTT album. . https://www.thecurrent.or...-episode-1 Wendy Melvoin: Brokenhearted. Because at the very end of it, we looked at the credits and it just said, "Thank you, Wendy and Lisa" at the very — the very last credit on the Sign 'O' the Times record, and meanwhile we had done so much work on that record, as you will attest to the deluxe record. So yeah, it was very painful; very painful. But we understood, you know, we're not — yeah, it hurt like hell but, you know, life goes on. | |
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After reading thru this thread, i realized we've gotta away from the topic at hand. We can't even have an adult discussion about the podcast or even wendy and lisa without attacking each other. it's sad.
the only issue is have is the comments made about SOTT being a revolution album, etc. It is not. that is a fact. The comments Wendy and Brownmark made about that may have been misinterpreted. With clarity, i think they meant the band played on a lot of music that was on compilations, etc leading up to what became the album but the album itself has 2 songs with their input: strange relationship (which has most of their contributions buried in the mix or stripped completely) and beautiful night which we all know is a jam from the parade tour that is boring without the vocals/lyrics and overdubs.
nonetheless, i appreciate the podcast and although i've been critical of wendy and lisa in the past, i'm apprecitative of them as well. they for sure brought different colors to Prince's world. no denying that and they're wonderful musicians in their own right. | |
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Well suit yourself, Miles Davis called Prince a genius... repeatedly. | |
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- LAUGHINGOUTLOUDROLLINGONTHEFLOOR Nearlyshittinginmylacepurpleunderwaer, andboydoesthatsmellslikelavender! - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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- Prince fans ? - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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No, David Bowie fans. | |
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Guess you somehow missed or decided to overlook the last sentence of Wendy's statement. Yeah, her life went on, and she's done some amazing stuff as well. Additionally, Prince called her back to play music with him on numerous occasions, AND wrote, released and dedicated In This Bed I Scream to Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah. So, it appears Wendy and Lisa weren't the only ones who were sad that their "trio" had parted ways. * You post like some random guy who never spent a day, let alone years, of your time contributing to and/or supporting the music of a well known musician in order to support his dream. OH WAIT....YOU ACTUALLY ARE THAT GUY!!! | |
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Just to go back to some of the music for a moment. Did my ageing ears trick me? Was the version of In A Large Room With No Light played slightly slower than the bootleg version that abounds? I could suddenly hear the lyrics much more clearly, and I know that isn't down to the quality of speaker - I was listening through a laptop. | |
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How quaint that this board has suddenly become a 'let's not criticize or call out anyone in music or media' sanctuary. [Edited 8/31/20 9:59am] | |
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How many times have you posted in this thread? Maybe you should get outside for a while. | |
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I believe what Eric and BrownMark were stating is that the SOTT band - while they of course performed the SOTT songs during all of the live shows - that incarnation of the band were not together during the time that the songs were being recorded and/or initially played. Yes, the band rehearsed and eventually played all of the songs live, but that band had not yet been formed at the time of the writing/recording by Prince. | |
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Well clearly her life didn't move on or she wouldn't be saying this 30 years later. She should be bowing down and kissing Prince's ring for the opportunities he gave to her. And when she arrived at another record company to record her own album, it dawned on her that Prince had financial obligations to the label, so could not put out all of her masterpieces -- and it was still Prince's atelier at the end of the day. So these statements are unprofessional. I don't recall Prince being sad, he just asked them to stay through the Parade tour as they had wanted to quit. You act like this is your first day on the forum, this haven of criticism and nitpicking. The contributions on SOTT are clearly outlined on the album. And no, it is not a Revolution album -- said Prince.
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- My cynical reply wans't a question. Thanks for the reply anyways. - I've been litening to the podcast over and again. It surely is fantastic to get all this insight tbh. The snippets are so promissing. (I have them in mp3 file now to listen some more.) 'In A Large Room' sounds so promissing. The small instrumental pieces of Lisa and Wendy are also very promising. I also like the frase that Prince was always 'looking for a place to feel better'. That for sure is (to me) a very important issue. - I wish we had some footage of the recording of 'Power Fantastic' in Galpin Road, or at least some pictures. It's very strange, for someone like Prince who recorded so much, that there is so few footage of him actually working/playing while recording. Yes there are a few clips out there, they're all over youtube, i know. But tbh, there isn't all that much. Even photographs... Strange though. -
[Edited 8/31/20 10:16am] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Ah, well thanks for letting me know. | |
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Asking me to step outside? I am not aware of a posting limit. | |
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Actually they played on the album songs. Sheila played on You Got the Look, and she and Miko played on 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night'. Sheila and Prince didn't start playing together in 1987. [Edited 8/31/20 10:24am] | |
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Most people don't photograph themselves when they are working. Performing, concerts, of course that is a different thing. | |
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Yep, you're right about it being slower. It's going to take a while to get used to after listening to the bootleg so many times | |
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I was referring to the SOTT band as a whole unit. Sheila had been contributing on various things in the studio with Prince well before the SOTT record. As far as I know, Miko was not part of any recording sessions until he officially joined the expanded Revolution after The Family ended. | |
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- Shees. NO ONE photographs him or herself while they are recording. It's others that do that (with or without permission) ! How many 'material' is there to be found for example by The Beatles in the studio? And basically every other artist out there since the invention of photography (so to speak)... Go to google + type in any artist/band name + 'in the studio'. Shees. -
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Yup I agree. | |
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Unless you are Prince. We've got the black and white video of the 1984 rehearsal for the First Ave bday show, snippets of another warehouse rehearsal released with the original NC2U, Nude Tour rehearsals, etc. So, it's very possible that there may be some footage of rehearsals in the 1985-86 period. If so, I hope it ALL comes out. | |
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EXACTLY. Right now on my favorite Prince YT channel there is a 3 hour video of Prince and gang rehearsing for the Nude tour. The quality sucks (hello 1990) but it's great to see the images along with the audio. Same for the 1984 bday show rehearsal. Really love that one! | |
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I think it's great that Susan Rogers has a solid memory of those years, and is so eloquent in her discussions of the details. I was listening again to her almost 3 hour long interview on Prince Podcast, and this is also what she stated when asked about the SOTT period and album: * At the 1:20:05 mark: "A major part of his (Prince's) life concerned Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah. They were a big part of his personal life, of his musical life. They were huge to him, and of course, Bobby Z., his friend since High School. So, as his landscape is changing beneath him he's changing his mind about what he wants to share. So, Dream Factory, then Crystal Ball, and then into SOTT happened as he was going through some personal and artistic and professional changes." * Susan, in several other interviews/discussions since Prince's passing, has given HUGE praise to Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah for their abilities as musicians, writers, and vocalists (Susannah), and how much they influenced and contributed to Prince's music in the 1985-86 period. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvvdrDQ8nU
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It felt heavier, a little less funky...but I simply cannot wait. This and All My Dreams - I mean, and all the rest too, but to have pristine versions of these two...I'm so happy. | |
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I thought i could hear the lyrics a little better, too. That'll be great to hear this version in good quality and correct speed.
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Milty2 said:
I'm going to amend my statement....I hope they continue for a while but without the petty bashing and nit-picking over who did what and when. As if any Orger was actually there. This is worse than political debating when we all have one common love and that is Prince and his work.
It would appear that moodyblumes was present during the SOTT sessions, appears to know everything | |
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