independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince: The Story of Sign O' The Times, Episode 1: It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 8 of 11 « First<234567891011>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #210 posted 08/31/20 9:32am

Vannormal

muleFunk said:

RJOrion said:

they've been white-washing Prince's career ever since he died (and even before)...its become sickening...but entirely predictable

What's sickening is the fact that there are some who believe that a backing band was greater than the person that people have called a modern day Mozart.

-

No he wasn't.

He was very very good, for a big part of his carreer

Who says that the Revolution was better than Prince ?

Where is that fact ?

-

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #211 posted 08/31/20 9:34am

Vannormal

SimonCharles said:

olb99 said:

.

That was one of my favorite moments as well. I'm a sucker for studio chatters. I really hope they are included in "Power Fantastic (Live In Studio Take 1)". At 7:18, I guess it will be the case. If not, I would be really disappointed.

THIS.

*

I could go a SDE of studio chatter of this quality and intimacy. For me, it is the stand out moment of the podcast. ...I mean, I'm a huge W&L fan, but even they can't claim they scripted this for him. wink

-

Oh yeah ! biggrin

Pleeeeaaase, dear Estate ... More of that please !

-

That's where we are able to get to know the real magic.

-

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #212 posted 08/31/20 9:39am

Vannormal

ForceofNature said:

Anyone that is upset about Wendy and Lisa talking about their undeniable part in the DF/transitional era that was a catalyst for the SOTT that came to be - and explicitly featured as "Part 1" of a multi-part series, is missing the point. There is nothing they are doing or saying that is out of line and the people in this thread upset about it are coming across as silly and losing their credibility, to be truthful and blunt [Edited 8/29/20 15:00pm]

-

I'd like to copy paste that.

Thank you !

Or like some say "THIS".

-

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #213 posted 08/31/20 9:41am

MoodyBlumes

violetcrush said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Whether you are a musician or not, you don't get to take credit where it wasn't given. Anyone who has worked a day or two understands this. W&L received their credits on SOTT, so should not be whining in interviews.

OMG, get OVER yourself, please!!! Wendy & Lisa WERE/ARE not whining about not getting credits for the songs on SOTT that Prince wrote and recorded on his own. They are simply expressing their sadness and disappointment AT THAT TIME - NOT NOW....regarding the MANY songs they did contribute to which were completely omitted, AND the few songs included in which their parts were stripped or buried in the mix.

Aw... poor babies. Whining like they never worked a day in the industry. Prince paid for every minute that they were playing Patty Cake in his studio. I am not the one on a podcast about a seminal album crying about my employer from 30 years ago not using my obscure piece, or other tinkerings I may have done, which is quite a normal reality for anyone who works. And all of Wendy's contributions to the songs she was on were credited. Also, there is no 'deluxe record' -- this everything but the kitchen sink release from the estate is not Prince's SOTT album.

.

https://www.thecurrent.or...-episode-1

Wendy Melvoin: Brokenhearted. Because at the very end of it, we looked at the credits and it just said, "Thank you, Wendy and Lisa" at the very — the very last credit on the Sign 'O' the Times record, and meanwhile we had done so much work on that record, as you will attest to the deluxe record. So yeah, it was very painful; very painful. But we understood, you know, we're not — yeah, it hurt like hell but, you know, life goes on.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #214 posted 08/31/20 9:41am

tab32792

After reading thru this thread, i realized we've gotta away from the topic at hand. We can't even have an adult discussion about the podcast or even wendy and lisa without attacking each other. it's sad.

the only issue is have is the comments made about SOTT being a revolution album, etc. It is not. that is a fact. The comments Wendy and Brownmark made about that may have been misinterpreted. With clarity, i think they meant the band played on a lot of music that was on compilations, etc leading up to what became the album but the album itself has 2 songs with their input: strange relationship (which has most of their contributions buried in the mix or stripped completely) and beautiful night which we all know is a jam from the parade tour that is boring without the vocals/lyrics and overdubs.

nonetheless, i appreciate the podcast and although i've been critical of wendy and lisa in the past, i'm apprecitative of them as well. they for sure brought different colors to Prince's world. no denying that and they're wonderful musicians in their own right.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #215 posted 08/31/20 9:42am

MoodyBlumes

Vannormal said:

muleFunk said:

What's sickening is the fact that there are some who believe that a backing band was greater than the person that people have called a modern day Mozart.

-

No he wasn't.

He was very very good, for a big part of his carreer

Who says that the Revolution was better than Prince ?

Where is that fact ?

-

Well suit yourself, Miles Davis called Prince a genius... repeatedly.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #216 posted 08/31/20 9:43am

Vannormal

jstar69 said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Very articulate! The album Sign O the Times, is not a Wendy and Lisa project.

He is dead now of course, but his estate should be protecting his copyrighted artistic work.

[Edited 8/29/20 14:33pm]

Well here’s an articulate idea... why don’t you take you’re vast and superior knowledge of the SOTT album and let the podcast producers, estate reps, and let’s throw in Warner records, let them all know the podcast is misleading, it’s all a misrepresentation!!! And given you are the font of all accurate (supposedly) SOTT Information, for future projects they should vet everything by you. Is he dead? I wasn’t aware! Sheeesh!!!

-

LAUGHINGOUTLOUDROLLINGONTHEFLOOR

Nearlyshittinginmylacepurpleunderwaer,

andboydoesthatsmellslikelavender!

-

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #217 posted 08/31/20 9:46am

Vannormal

MoodyBlumes said:

ForceofNature said:

Robbajobba said: Yup, this podcast was to paint the entire picture especially seeing as there was no discrimination in projects regarding what Vault material is on SOTT Deluxe. And Part 1 of this Podcast clearly was stated *in the actual podcast* to be focused around the Revolution's peak and ending from 85 onwards. I am honestly so perplexed at how many people are missing the point of the podcast and are comaining about its contents and interviewees. That is like me calling The Godfather series the worst romantic comedy trilogy of all time and complaining that James Caan did press interviews talking about Sonny [Edited 8/29/20 15:01pm]

The podcast is entitled Prince: The Story of Sign O' the Times. Just because Wendy played a solo during that time, doesn't mean it represents the story of this album. Why wouldn't there be a discrimination? I know a number of folks who stopped listening at the quarter and halfway mark.

[Edited 8/29/20 15:43pm]

-

Prince fans ?

-

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #218 posted 08/31/20 9:49am

MoodyBlumes

Vannormal said:

MoodyBlumes said:

The podcast is entitled Prince: The Story of Sign O' the Times. Just because Wendy played a solo during that time, doesn't mean it represents the story of this album. Why wouldn't there be a discrimination? I know a number of folks who stopped listening at the quarter and halfway mark.

[Edited 8/29/20 15:43pm]

-

Prince fans ?

-

No, David Bowie fans.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #219 posted 08/31/20 9:58am

violetcrush

MoodyBlumes said:

violetcrush said:

OMG, get OVER yourself, please!!! Wendy & Lisa WERE/ARE not whining about not getting credits for the songs on SOTT that Prince wrote and recorded on his own. They are simply expressing their sadness and disappointment AT THAT TIME - NOT NOW....regarding the MANY songs they did contribute to which were completely omitted, AND the few songs included in which their parts were stripped or buried in the mix.

Aw... poor babies. Whining like they never worked a day in the industry. Prince paid for every minute that they were playing Patty Cake in his studio. I am not the one on a podcast about a seminal album crying about my employer from 30 years ago not using my obscure piece, or other tinkerings I may have done, which is quite a normal reality for anyone who works. And all of Wendy's contributions to the songs she was on were credited. Also, there is no 'deluxe record' -- this everything but the kitchen sink release from the estate is not Prince's SOTT album.

.

https://www.thecurrent.or...-episode-1

Wendy Melvoin: Brokenhearted. Because at the very end of it, we looked at the credits and it just said, "Thank you, Wendy and Lisa" at the very — the very last credit on the Sign 'O' the Times record, and meanwhile we had done so much work on that record, as you will attest to the deluxe record. So yeah, it was very painful; very painful. But we understood, you know, we're not — yeah, it hurt like hell but, you know, life goes on.

Guess you somehow missed or decided to overlook the last sentence of Wendy's statement. Yeah, her life went on, and she's done some amazing stuff as well. Additionally, Prince called her back to play music with him on numerous occasions, AND wrote, released and dedicated In This Bed I Scream to Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah. So, it appears Wendy and Lisa weren't the only ones who were sad that their "trio" had parted ways.

*

You post like some random guy who never spent a day, let alone years, of your time contributing to and/or supporting the music of a well known musician in order to support his dream. OH WAIT....YOU ACTUALLY ARE THAT GUY!!! lol lol lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #220 posted 08/31/20 9:58am

SimonCharles

Just to go back to some of the music for a moment. Did my ageing ears trick me? Was the version of In A Large Room With No Light played slightly slower than the bootleg version that abounds? I could suddenly hear the lyrics much more clearly, and I know that isn't down to the quality of speaker - I was listening through a laptop.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #221 posted 08/31/20 9:59am

MoodyBlumes

Vannormal said:

jstar69 said:

MoodyBlumes said: Well here’s an articulate idea... why don’t you take you’re vast and superior knowledge of the SOTT album and let the podcast producers, estate reps, and let’s throw in Warner records, let them all know the podcast is misleading, it’s all a misrepresentation!!! And given you are the font of all accurate (supposedly) SOTT Information, for future projects they should vet everything by you. Is he dead? I wasn’t aware! Sheeesh!!!

-

LAUGHINGOUTLOUDROLLINGONTHEFLOOR

Nearlyshittinginmylacepurpleunderwaer,

andboydoesthatsmellslikelavender!

-

How quaint that this board has suddenly become a 'let's not criticize or call out anyone in music or media' sanctuary.

[Edited 8/31/20 9:59am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #222 posted 08/31/20 10:01am

TwiliteKid

avatar

MoodyBlumes said:

Vannormal said:

-

LAUGHINGOUTLOUDROLLINGONTHEFLOOR

Nearlyshittinginmylacepurpleunderwaer,

andboydoesthatsmellslikelavender!

-

How quaint that this board has suddenly become a 'let's not criticize or call out anyone in music or media' sanctuary.

[Edited 8/31/20 9:59am]

How many times have you posted in this thread? Maybe you should get outside for a while.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #223 posted 08/31/20 10:02am

violetcrush

tab32792 said:

After reading thru this thread, i realized we've gotta away from the topic at hand. We can't even have an adult discussion about the podcast or even wendy and lisa without attacking each other. it's sad.

the only issue is have is the comments made about SOTT being a revolution album, etc. It is not. that is a fact. The comments Wendy and Brownmark made about that may have been misinterpreted. With clarity, i think they meant the band played on a lot of music that was on compilations, etc leading up to what became the album but the album itself has 2 songs with their input: strange relationship (which has most of their contributions buried in the mix or stripped completely) and beautiful night which we all know is a jam from the parade tour that is boring without the vocals/lyrics and overdubs.

nonetheless, i appreciate the podcast and although i've been critical of wendy and lisa in the past, i'm apprecitative of them as well. they for sure brought different colors to Prince's world. no denying that and they're wonderful musicians in their own right.

I believe what Eric and BrownMark were stating is that the SOTT band - while they of course performed the SOTT songs during all of the live shows - that incarnation of the band were not together during the time that the songs were being recorded and/or initially played. Yes, the band rehearsed and eventually played all of the songs live, but that band had not yet been formed at the time of the writing/recording by Prince.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #224 posted 08/31/20 10:04am

MoodyBlumes

violetcrush said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Aw... poor babies. Whining like they never worked a day in the industry. Prince paid for every minute that they were playing Patty Cake in his studio. I am not the one on a podcast about a seminal album crying about my employer from 30 years ago not using my obscure piece, or other tinkerings I may have done, which is quite a normal reality for anyone who works. And all of Wendy's contributions to the songs she was on were credited. Also, there is no 'deluxe record' -- this everything but the kitchen sink release from the estate is not Prince's SOTT album.

.

https://www.thecurrent.or...-episode-1

Wendy Melvoin: Brokenhearted. Because at the very end of it, we looked at the credits and it just said, "Thank you, Wendy and Lisa" at the very — the very last credit on the Sign 'O' the Times record, and meanwhile we had done so much work on that record, as you will attest to the deluxe record. So yeah, it was very painful; very painful. But we understood, you know, we're not — yeah, it hurt like hell but, you know, life goes on.

Guess you somehow missed or decided to overlook the last sentence of Wendy's statement. Yeah, her life went on, and she's done some amazing stuff as well. Additionally, Prince called her back to play music with him on numerous occasions, AND wrote, released and dedicated In This Bed I Scream to Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah. So, it appears Wendy and Lisa weren't the only ones who were sad that their "trio" had parted ways.

*

You post like some random guy who never spent a day, let alone years, of your time contributing to and/or supporting the music of a well known musician in order to support his dream. OH WAIT....YOU ACTUALLY ARE THAT GUY!!! lol lol lol

Well clearly her life didn't move on or she wouldn't be saying this 30 years later. She should be bowing down and kissing Prince's ring for the opportunities he gave to her. And when she arrived at another record company to record her own album, it dawned on her that Prince had financial obligations to the label, so could not put out all of her masterpieces -- and it was still Prince's atelier at the end of the day. So these statements are unprofessional. I don't recall Prince being sad, he just asked them to stay through the Parade tour as they had wanted to quit. You act like this is your first day on the forum, this haven of criticism and nitpicking. The contributions on SOTT are clearly outlined on the album. And no, it is not a Revolution album -- said Prince.

[Edited 8/31/20 10:14am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #225 posted 08/31/20 10:05am

Vannormal

MoodyBlumes said:

Vannormal said:

-

Prince fans ?

-

No, David Bowie fans.

-

My cynical reply wans't a question.

Thanks for the reply anyways.

-

I've been litening to the podcast over and again.

It surely is fantastic to get all this insight tbh.

The snippets are so promissing.

(I have them in mp3 file now to listen some more.)

'In A Large Room' sounds so promissing.

The small instrumental pieces of Lisa and Wendy are also very promising.

I also like the frase that Prince was always 'looking for a place to feel better'.

That for sure is (to me) a very important issue.

-

I wish we had some footage of the recording of 'Power Fantastic' in Galpin Road,

or at least some pictures.

It's very strange, for someone like Prince who recorded so much,

that there is so few footage of him actually working/playing while recording.

Yes there are a few clips out there, they're all over youtube, i know.

But tbh, there isn't all that much. Even photographs... Strange though.

-

[Edited 8/31/20 10:16am]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #226 posted 08/31/20 10:06am

MoodyBlumes

Vannormal said:

MoodyBlumes said:

No, David Bowie fans.

-

My synical reply wans't a question.

-

Ah, well thanks for letting me know.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #227 posted 08/31/20 10:16am

MoodyBlumes

TwiliteKid said:

MoodyBlumes said:

How quaint that this board has suddenly become a 'let's not criticize or call out anyone in music or media' sanctuary.

[Edited 8/31/20 9:59am]

How many times have you posted in this thread? Maybe you should get outside for a while.

Asking me to step outside? I am not aware of a posting limit.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #228 posted 08/31/20 10:19am

MoodyBlumes

violetcrush said:

tab32792 said:

After reading thru this thread, i realized we've gotta away from the topic at hand. We can't even have an adult discussion about the podcast or even wendy and lisa without attacking each other. it's sad.

the only issue is have is the comments made about SOTT being a revolution album, etc. It is not. that is a fact. The comments Wendy and Brownmark made about that may have been misinterpreted. With clarity, i think they meant the band played on a lot of music that was on compilations, etc leading up to what became the album but the album itself has 2 songs with their input: strange relationship (which has most of their contributions buried in the mix or stripped completely) and beautiful night which we all know is a jam from the parade tour that is boring without the vocals/lyrics and overdubs.

nonetheless, i appreciate the podcast and although i've been critical of wendy and lisa in the past, i'm apprecitative of them as well. they for sure brought different colors to Prince's world. no denying that and they're wonderful musicians in their own right.

I believe what Eric and BrownMark were stating is that the SOTT band - while they of course performed the SOTT songs during all of the live shows - that incarnation of the band were not together during the time that the songs were being recorded and/or initially played. Yes, the band rehearsed and eventually played all of the songs live, but that band had not yet been formed at the time of the writing/recording by Prince.

Actually they played on the album songs. Sheila played on You Got the Look, and she and Miko played on 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night'. Sheila and Prince didn't start playing together in 1987.

[Edited 8/31/20 10:24am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #229 posted 08/31/20 10:21am

MoodyBlumes

Vannormal said:

MoodyBlumes said:

No, David Bowie fans.

-

My cynical reply wans't a question.

Thanks for the reply anyways.

-

I've been litening to the podcast over and again.

It surely is fantastic to get all this insight tbh.

The snippets are so promissing.

(I have them in mp3 file now to listen some more.)

'In A Large Room' sounds so promissing.

The small instrumental pieces of Lisa and Wendy are also very promising.

I also like the frase that Prince was always 'looking for a place to feel better'.

That for sure is (to me) a very important issue.

-

I wish we had some footage of the recording of 'Power Fantastic' in Galpin Road,

or at least some pictures.

It's very strange, for someone like Prince who recorded so much,

that there is so few footage of him actually working/playing while recording.

Yes there are a few clips out there, they're all over youtube, i know.

But tbh, there isn't all that much. Even photographs... Strange though.

-

[Edited 8/31/20 10:16am]

Most people don't photograph themselves when they are working. Performing, concerts, of course that is a different thing.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #230 posted 08/31/20 10:22am

mbdtyler

SimonCharles said:

Just to go back to some of the music for a moment. Did my ageing ears trick me? Was the version of In A Large Room With No Light played slightly slower than the bootleg version that abounds? I could suddenly hear the lyrics much more clearly, and I know that isn't down to the quality of speaker - I was listening through a laptop.

Yep, you're right about it being slower. It's going to take a while to get used to after listening to the bootleg so many times

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #231 posted 08/31/20 10:33am

violetcrush

MoodyBlumes said:

violetcrush said:

I believe what Eric and BrownMark were stating is that the SOTT band - while they of course performed the SOTT songs during all of the live shows - that incarnation of the band were not together during the time that the songs were being recorded and/or initially played. Yes, the band rehearsed and eventually played all of the songs live, but that band had not yet been formed at the time of the writing/recording by Prince.

Actually they played on the album songs. Sheila played on You Got the Look, and she and Miko played on 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night'. Sheila and Prince didn't start playing together in 1987.

[Edited 8/31/20 10:24am]

I was referring to the SOTT band as a whole unit. Sheila had been contributing on various things in the studio with Prince well before the SOTT record. As far as I know, Miko was not part of any recording sessions until he officially joined the expanded Revolution after The Family ended.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #232 posted 08/31/20 10:35am

Vannormal

MoodyBlumes said:

Vannormal said:

-

My cynical reply wans't a question.

Thanks for the reply anyways.

-

I've been litening to the podcast over and again.

It surely is fantastic to get all this insight tbh.

The snippets are so promissing.

(I have them in mp3 file now to listen some more.)

'In A Large Room' sounds so promissing.

The small instrumental pieces of Lisa and Wendy are also very promising.

I also like the frase that Prince was always 'looking for a place to feel better'.

That for sure is (to me) a very important issue.

-

I wish we had some footage of the recording of 'Power Fantastic' in Galpin Road,

or at least some pictures.

It's very strange, for someone like Prince who recorded so much,

that there is so few footage of him actually working/playing while recording.

Yes there are a few clips out there, they're all over youtube, i know.

But tbh, there isn't all that much. Even photographs... Strange though.

-

[Edited 8/31/20 10:16am]

Most people don't photograph themselves when they are working. Performing, concerts, of course that is a different thing.

-

Shees.

NO ONE photographs him or herself while they are recording.

It's others that do that (with or without permission) !

How many 'material' is there to be found for example by The Beatles in the studio?

And basically every other artist out there since the invention of photography (so to speak)...

Go to google + type in any artist/band name + 'in the studio'.

Shees.

-

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #233 posted 08/31/20 10:36am

Milty2

MoodyBlumes said:

Milty2 said:

I'm going to amend my statement....I hope they continue for a while but without the petty bashing and nit-picking over who did what and when. As if any Orger was actually there. This is worse than political debating when we all have one common love and that is Prince and his work.

Since when is this forum not about petty bashing and nit-picking? In terms of who did what, these are clearly outlined in the album notes.

[Edited 8/31/20 9:21am]

Yup I agree.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #234 posted 08/31/20 10:37am

violetcrush

MoodyBlumes said:

Vannormal said:

-

My cynical reply wans't a question.

Thanks for the reply anyways.

-

I've been litening to the podcast over and again.

It surely is fantastic to get all this insight tbh.

The snippets are so promissing.

(I have them in mp3 file now to listen some more.)

'In A Large Room' sounds so promissing.

The small instrumental pieces of Lisa and Wendy are also very promising.

I also like the frase that Prince was always 'looking for a place to feel better'.

That for sure is (to me) a very important issue.

-

I wish we had some footage of the recording of 'Power Fantastic' in Galpin Road,

or at least some pictures.

It's very strange, for someone like Prince who recorded so much,

that there is so few footage of him actually working/playing while recording.

Yes there are a few clips out there, they're all over youtube, i know.

But tbh, there isn't all that much. Even photographs... Strange though.

-

[Edited 8/31/20 10:16am]

Most people don't photograph themselves when they are working. Performing, concerts, of course that is a different thing.

Unless you are Prince. We've got the black and white video of the 1984 rehearsal for the First Ave bday show, snippets of another warehouse rehearsal released with the original NC2U, Nude Tour rehearsals, etc. So, it's very possible that there may be some footage of rehearsals in the 1985-86 period. If so, I hope it ALL comes out.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #235 posted 08/31/20 10:41am

violetcrush

Vannormal said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Most people don't photograph themselves when they are working. Performing, concerts, of course that is a different thing.

-

Shees.

NO ONE photographs him or herself while they are recording.

It's others that do that (with or without permission) !

How many 'material' is there to be found for example by The Beatles in the studio?

And basically every other artist out there since the invention of photography (so to speak)...

Go to google + type in any artist/band name + 'in the studio'.

Shees.

-

EXACTLY. Right now on my favorite Prince YT channel there is a 3 hour video of Prince and gang rehearsing for the Nude tour. The quality sucks (hello 1990) but it's great to see the images along with the audio. Same for the 1984 bday show rehearsal. Really love that one!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #236 posted 08/31/20 10:54am

violetcrush

MoodyBlumes said:

violetcrush said:

And Wendy stated that Prince gave her the BEST musical experience of her lifetime, so.....

Well here is what Susan shared about SOTT:

.

"The drum track on “The Cross” is noticeably out of time, and “Forever in My Life” and “It” were each done pretty quickly. In contrast, songs like “Adore” and “U Got the Look” received an exceptional amount of attention to detail.

“Slow Love,” “I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man,” and “Strange Relationship” were older songs that were pulled from the vault and reworked for inclusion. There were some unusual sonic elements, including the distorted vocal on “If I Was Your Girlfriend,” the muffled, lo­fi sound on “The Ballad of Dorothy Parker,” and the out­of­sync backing vocals on “Forever in My Life.” All of these were unintentional “happy accidents.”

.

Some experimentation was deliberate, such as the backwards drums on “Starfish and Coffee.” The basic track for “It’s Gonna Be a Beautiful Night” was recorded in a mobile truck for a live performance in France.

.

....Prince’s work in relation to these artists was like an art house film maker compared to big budget studio films. We worked quickly and valued ideas over execution or art over craft, you might say. Frequently tracks were completed from beginning to end (i.e., final mix) in less than 24 hours, by just the two of us. That is unheard of for chart-topping artists who typically work with a team including producers, engineers, mixers, songwriters, and studio musicians.

.

Because his albums always center around a theme, new songs were written or reworked to build around SOTT’s core songs, which included “Sign o’ the Times,” “Adore,” “If I Was Your Girlfriend,” and “U Got the Look.” “Play in the Sunshine” and “Slow Love” are examples of songs that were included to complete a perfect album sequence.

.

We worked quietly and peacefully, for the most part, on songs like “It,” “Hot Thing,” “Forever in My Life,” and “Starfish and Coffee.” Even though Sunset Sound in Los Angeles was like a second home, the atmosphere in Minnesota had lower pressure. I always felt as though he was most himself in Minnesota, working at home.

.

When I left in 1988 and began working with other artists, I realized that I only knew Prince’s way of working. Because his method was so rare, I had to learn how to make records the industry way. All of Prince’s colleagues or imitators take a risk by observing him for too long. They can start to believe that his genius is not so rare or that it just takes discipline to match his output. The more I worked with others, the more I realized that there is simply no one like Prince aesthetically or entrepreneurially.

.

Musical parts and arrangements came so rapidly to him that it could seem as if he were recording songs from memory. He has a particular genius for melody and rhythm, and he is extraordinarily decisive and focused.

What we label genius or expert typically takes a decade or more to form. Greg Kurstin, for example, recently produced Adele’s latest single “Hello” and a host of other hit songs over the past few years. This comes after working for over two decades as a musician and producer. Prince was doing equivalent work in his first decade with no formal musical training. It would be hard to find his equal in any musical era.

https://classicalbumsunda...interview/

I think it's great that Susan Rogers has a solid memory of those years, and is so eloquent in her discussions of the details. I was listening again to her almost 3 hour long interview on Prince Podcast, and this is also what she stated when asked about the SOTT period and album:

*

At the 1:20:05 mark: "A major part of his (Prince's) life concerned Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah. They were a big part of his personal life, of his musical life. They were huge to him, and of course, Bobby Z., his friend since High School. So, as his landscape is changing beneath him he's changing his mind about what he wants to share. So, Dream Factory, then Crystal Ball, and then into SOTT happened as he was going through some personal and artistic and professional changes."

*

Susan, in several other interviews/discussions since Prince's passing, has given HUGE praise to Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah for their abilities as musicians, writers, and vocalists (Susannah), and how much they influenced and contributed to Prince's music in the 1985-86 period.

*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvvdrDQ8nU

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #237 posted 08/31/20 11:02am

SimonCharles

mbdtyler said:

SimonCharles said:

Just to go back to some of the music for a moment. Did my ageing ears trick me? Was the version of In A Large Room With No Light played slightly slower than the bootleg version that abounds? I could suddenly hear the lyrics much more clearly, and I know that isn't down to the quality of speaker - I was listening through a laptop.

Yep, you're right about it being slower. It's going to take a while to get used to after listening to the bootleg so many times

It felt heavier, a little less funky...but I simply cannot wait. This and All My Dreams - I mean, and all the rest too, but to have pristine versions of these two...I'm so happy.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #238 posted 08/31/20 2:12pm

controversy99

avatar

mbdtyler said:

SimonCharles said:

Just to go back to some of the music for a moment. Did my ageing ears trick me? Was the version of In A Large Room With No Light played slightly slower than the bootleg version that abounds? I could suddenly hear the lyrics much more clearly, and I know that isn't down to the quality of speaker - I was listening through a laptop.

Yep, you're right about it being slower. It's going to take a while to get used to after listening to the bootleg so many times

I thought i could hear the lyrics a little better, too. That'll be great to hear this version in good quality and correct speed.

"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #239 posted 08/31/20 2:35pm

jstar69

Milty2 said:



Milty2 said:


These reissue related podcasts are some of the best ideas the Estate has come up with. I hope they continue for a while.




I'm going to amend my statement....I hope they continue for a while but without the petty bashing and nit-picking over who did what and when. As if any Orger was actually there. This is worse than political debating when we all have one common love and that is Prince and his work.




It would appear that moodyblumes was present during the SOTT sessions, appears to know everything lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 8 of 11 « First<234567891011>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince: The Story of Sign O' The Times, Episode 1: It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night