RJOrion said:

do Wendy & Lisa (or Suzzanah) ever talk about THEIR OWN drab, uneventful music?...does anyone ever even ask them or interview them about THEIR OWN music?...are they ever invited on TV or podcasts to perform THEIR OWN music?...when is the Wendy & Lisa tribute going to be televised?...when will the memoirs of Wendy & Lisa be published?... surely, musicians as great as they are, have more to talk about than what they did 1982- 1986, while taking orders from their boss, Mr. Nelson, right? [Edited 8/29/20 13:05pm]

Nobody is forcing you to listen to their interviews, or download podcasts with them talking simply about their relevance in Prince's world, which is objectively undeniable


I honestly don't get some of the Prince fans here. The hate for two people who played a part in the amazing sound from the amazing era of Prince music that we love to jam out to is out of control and irrational. Projection at the highest level. I don't care if they never released another note after leaving the Revolution, their interviews and comments are just as relevant, insightful, and meaningful as anything else

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RJOrion said:

do Wendy & Lisa (or Suzzanah) ever talk about THEIR OWN drab, uneventful music?...does anyone ever even ask them or interview them about THEIR OWN music?...are they ever invited on TV or podcasts to perform THEIR OWN music?...when is the Wendy & Lisa tribute going to be televised?...when will the memoirs of Wendy & Lisa be published?... surely, musicians as great as they are, have more to talk about than what they did 1982- 1986, while taking orders from their boss, Mr. Nelson, right? [Edited 8/29/20 13:05pm]

But Mr. Nelson was a black boss, so to be talking orders from him....Miko's guitar features prominently on 'It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night', where was he?

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ForceofNature said:

RJOrion said:

do Wendy & Lisa (or Suzzanah) ever talk about THEIR OWN drab, uneventful music?...does anyone ever even ask them or interview them about THEIR OWN music?...are they ever invited on TV or podcasts to perform THEIR OWN music?...when is the Wendy & Lisa tribute going to be televised?...when will the memoirs of Wendy & Lisa be published?... surely, musicians as great as they are, have more to talk about than what they did 1982- 1986, while taking orders from their boss, Mr. Nelson, right? [Edited 8/29/20 13:05pm]

Nobody is forcing you to listen to their interviews, or download podcasts with them talking simply about their relevance in Prince's world, which is objectively undeniable


I honestly don't get some of the Prince fans here. The hate for two people who played a part in the amazing sound from the amazing era of Prince music that we love to jam out to is out of control and irrational. Projection at the highest level. I don't care if they never released another note after leaving the Revolution, their interviews and comments are just as relevant, insightful, and meaningful as anything else

[Edited 8/29/20 13:51pm]

Prince fans listening to a podcast about his album Sign O the Times... scandalous! And kicking off with Wendy and Lisa's relevance in Prince's world is undeniably inappropriate. The Camille project is far more relevant to the album than W&L solos. Why wasn't Miko Weaver interviewed for the song he played on, It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night?

“He had been working more on his own than usual,” Coleman said about the recording sessions last year for Prince’s latest album, “Sign ‘O’ the Times.” “We weren’t with him in the studio as much.”

“We played on a lot of the material for that album,” Melvoin said. “But he cut a whole lot of it out when he put together the final version of the album.”

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

mbdtyler said:

jstar69 said:

mbdtyler said:

I think it's safe to assume that Prince's directions are included, 7:18 is longer than the bootleg with the instrumental intro. There was also a magazine review of the deluxe album that mentioned Prince's studio talk on "Power Fantastic", if I remember correctly

PS: can we have a dedicated/stickied Wendy & Lisa thread so everyone can debate their merits elsewhere instead of derailing threads like this one?

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Exactly! And Before ridiculous comments like ‘white washing his music’ turn this into a racially motivated thread! Jeeez!!!

Wendy and Lisa didn't even write the song It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night - Prince, Matt Fink and Eric. The podcast's message was pretty clear. And now you'd like Prince's Sign O the Times to turn into a 'let's open a W&L thread?"

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MoodyBlumes said:

jstar69 said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Wendy and Lisa didn't even write the song It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night - Prince, Matt Fink and Eric. The podcast's message was pretty clear. And now you'd like Prince's Sign O the Times to turn into a 'let's open a W&L thread?"

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Puullleeease!!!

Very articulate! The album Sign O the Times, is not a Wendy and Lisa project.

Prince is dead now of course, but his estate should be protecting his copyrighted artistic work.

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MoodyBlumes said:

reminder that there are 7 whole episodes left of this podcast and you have heard 1 and the whining begins.

shall W+L be on the other 7, history will prove me an ass and will prove the whiners correct

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Robbajobba said:

jstar69 said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Very articulate! The album Sign O the Times, is not a Wendy and Lisa project.

He is dead now of course, but his estate should be protecting his copyrighted artistic work.

[Edited 8/29/20 14:33pm]

Well here’s an articulate idea... why don’t you take you’re vast and superior knowledge of the SOTT album and let the podcast producers, estate reps, and let’s throw in Warner records, let them all know the podcast is misleading, it’s all a misrepresentation!!! And given you are the font of all accurate (supposedly) SOTT Information, for future projects they should vet everything by you. Is he dead? I wasn’t aware! Sheeesh!!!

My my, it doesn't even take a basic knowledge. Prince already let Warner records (and everyone else) know about who owned his work. Never mind that he is the legal copyright owner.

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ForceofNature said:

Robbajobba said:

Good grief, this fucking thread. Maybe we can wait to hear the whole series before deciding who’s been overlooked/given undue prominence? Wasn’t the focus of this ep *all* the projects P was working on at the time (including possible Revolution tracks) on the way to SOTT?

Yup, this podcast was to paint the entire picture especially seeing as there was no discrimination in projects regarding what Vault material is on SOTT Deluxe. And Part 1 of this Podcast clearly was stated *in the actual podcast* to be focused around the Revolution's peak and ending from 85 onwards. I am honestly so perplexed at how many people are missing the point of the podcast and are comaining about its contents and interviewees. That is like me calling The Godfather series the worst romantic comedy trilogy of all time and complaining that James Caan did press interviews talking about Sonny [Edited 8/29/20 15:01pm]

The podcast is entitled Prince: The Story of Sign O' the Times. Just because Wendy played a solo during that time, doesn't mean it represents the story of this album. Why wouldn't there be a discrimination? I know a number of folks who stopped listening at the quarter and halfway mark.

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MoodyBlumes said:

MoodyBlumes said:

ForceofNature said:

MoodyBlumes said:

The podcast is entitled Prince: The Story of Sign O' the Times. Just because Wendy played a solo during that time, doesn't mean it represents the story of this album. Why wouldn't there be a discrimination? I know a number of folks who stopped listening at the quarter and halfway mark.

This isn't the entire story, this is only Part 1 of said story explicity said to focus on the peak of the Revolution through the end of it, which directly involves Wendy and Lisa who made contibutions to his music and have the right to talk about it. It isn't difficult to get, there is no issue here.

Wendy and Lisa playing 'Pat-a-Cake' in the studio is a relevant introduction for a SOTT retrospective? If I didn't know better, I'd call it a joke. True, it is not difficult to understand that SOTT is not a Wendy and Lisa album.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

“He had been working more on his own than usual,” Coleman said about the recording sessions last year for Prince’s latest album, “Sign ‘O’ the Times.” “We weren’t with him in the studio as much.”

MoodyBlumes said:

ForceofNature said:

ForceofNature said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Wendy and Lisa playing 'Pat-a-Cake' in the studio is a relevant introduction for a SOTT retrospective? If I didn't know better, I'd call it a joke. True, it is not difficult to understand that SOTT is not a Wendy and Lisa album.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

“He had been working more on his own than usual,” Coleman said about the recording sessions last year for Prince’s latest album, “Sign ‘O’ the Times.” “We weren’t with him in the studio as much.”

Prince fans are so obtuse about everything, jeez lol. It is clear as day to the rest of us why they would be featured in Part 1 of this podcast. Let's move on [Edited 8/29/20 15:54pm]

So you are not obtuse as a non-Prince fan, cool. Susan did share that Prince came up with the melody and lyrics to Power Fantastic, and how it was recorded (with Prince in the control room) - other than that, Prince was a footnote in this podcast.

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Part 1 was supposed to be about his transition from the Revolution and their influence on some of the previously unrleeased tracks. That would have been fair. They are all over All My Dreams and other tracks. It ended up being 35 minutes of lobbying and advocacy for the lie that SOTT is a Revolution album, a point that Wendy has unsuccessfully tried to make many times. Part 1 was an inaccurate representation of their contribution to the songs on that historic album and I'm disappointed in the Current for not doing a better job filtering the spin. SOTT is a produced, composed, arranged and performed by Prince project. For the first podcast to imply that it was not is very disappointing.

donnyenglish said:

It ended up being 35 minutes of lobbying and advocacy for the lie that SOTT is a Revolution album

That just wasn't my takeway after listening to the podcast

donnyenglish said:

you all deserve bart