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Reply #30 posted 07/16/20 9:03am

BartVanHemelen

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Note that the promo text does not mention a 1982 home recording and says "The track was retrieved from the vault in June 1986 and re-recorded". Theory: this 1979 version has been mistakenly dated to 1982 based on the sound.

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Reply #31 posted 07/16/20 9:25am

LoveGalore

BartVanHemelen said:

Note that the promo text does not mention a 1982 home recording and says "The track was retrieved from the vault in June 1986 and re-recorded". Theory: this 1979 version has been mistakenly dated to 1982 based on the sound.


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Michael Howe discussed this - that they initially thought it was from much later (aka 1982) but that it was on the same tape as ... Uh something else I forget.
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Reply #32 posted 07/16/20 9:33am

Giovanni777

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Just heard it on Spotify... Not a fan.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #33 posted 07/16/20 9:36am

AvocadosMax

Giovanni777 said:

Just heard it on Spotify... Not a fan.


I’ll tell ya what. Re-listen to Dirty Mind, then come back to ICNTTPOYM 1979 and then let us know if you don’t like it.

The first 30 seconds i was unsure but since then I’m loving this. It should grow on ya
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Reply #34 posted 07/16/20 9:38am

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I was in a meeting when I got the notification of its release on my phone. Just listened to it like 5 times in a row. It's absoluetely amazing!! Totally different take and feel of the song. If this is any indication, "SOTT" SDE is a game changer for sure...

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Reply #35 posted 07/16/20 9:40am

SPYZFAN1

Definitely has a "Cars/New Wave" feel to it. This could have been on "D.M"...I dig it..I also like the out of phase Fender (or Hohner) raw guitar sound too.

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Reply #36 posted 07/16/20 9:45am

Militant

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Stickyfied and front-paged. thumbs up!

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Reply #37 posted 07/16/20 9:52am

soladeo1

When Prince write and recorded this, in May of 1979, he was under a lot of pressure for a BIG HIT after the relative soft performance of FOR YOU. Amazing that he put this on the back burner for close to eight years. The song just drips with potential, even as a somewhat raw version. If he would have played this for Warner Bros execs they probably would have insisted it be on PRINCE.

Also it's interesting that he really didn't fiddle with the original lyrics when he rerecorded it??

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Reply #38 posted 07/16/20 9:55am

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Reply #39 posted 07/16/20 9:56am

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Easily would of fit on Dirty Mind, imagine having this all those years & not relelasing it.

Really speaks to his confidence, he knew what he was capaable of & didn't need this gem of a song until he did.

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Reply #40 posted 07/16/20 10:00am

Milty2

Man, this needs to be released to rock format radio (or any radio campiagn) in 2020. It's so 1979 that's it's 2020 current. I love it.

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Reply #41 posted 07/16/20 10:03am

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this is incredible. I mean, yeah, the 1987 version is definitive and all, but to think that he just had this song knocking about for 6-7 years... amazing.

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Reply #42 posted 07/16/20 10:06am

emesem

I'm suspicious that is really from 1979. The keys sound a bit more 81-82 than 79. Would this then be the earliest significant use of his non-falsetto voice?

Yeah he briefly uses it in Just as Long as We're Together, parts of Party Up but its not until the Controversy album in 1981 ( Ronnie Talke to Russian, Annie Christian and Jack You Off) that we get a full song in normal voice.

If from 79 its likely after Prince since then he was still in Disco mode. Perhaps this was for the "Rebels" project which was a bit more rock/pop

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Reply #43 posted 07/16/20 10:12am

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^That's what I was thinking! If it is really from 1979 it must have been the only time he didn't use the falsetto.
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Reply #44 posted 07/16/20 10:15am

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Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #45 posted 07/16/20 10:17am

MIRvmn

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I really like it biggrin but didn't expect it be non falsetto since it's from 1979
We are living in Orwell's 1984
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Reply #46 posted 07/16/20 10:19am

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He briefly uses it in Soft & Wet, his debut single, but it's a good point. Could the vocals have been recorded later? The drum sound and synths sound pure Dirty Mind to me.

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Reply #47 posted 07/16/20 10:32am

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bluegangsta said:

Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.

I don't want to take away from your Bolas detracting, because sometimes he definitely deserves it, but I looked at the Tidal credits and his name wasn't on there, only Bernie's and the original engineer from 79'.

You're right though, the hard panning is obnoxious.

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Reply #48 posted 07/16/20 10:46am

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You could argue this was his first legitimate cross over composition. Back in 79 this would of fit perfectly on a rock fm radio station.
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Reply #49 posted 07/16/20 10:50am

Chappers72

Imagine sitting on a track like this, so good in 1979 ....patiently waiting for the right album sound.
Would have sat well on "prince" I reckon
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Reply #50 posted 07/16/20 10:54am

mushmackalenta

bluegangsta said:

Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.



Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.
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Reply #51 posted 07/16/20 11:06am

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mushmackalenta said:

bluegangsta said:

Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.

Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.

lol oh man. You were wrong last time so what's your evidence this time?

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Reply #52 posted 07/16/20 11:07am

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Farfunknugin said:

You could argue this was his first legitimate cross over composition. Back in 79 this would of fit perfectly on a rock fm radio station.

It would have needed a bit more work to stand out between Fleetwood Mac, Toto, The Eagles etc...
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Reply #53 posted 07/16/20 11:08am

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AMAZING!!!
"I like to watch."
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Reply #54 posted 07/16/20 11:12am

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Fun fact (thank u princevault): 86 version of this recorded on this day 34 years ago pray
For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #55 posted 07/16/20 11:15am

BlueShakooo

I love it!!
My only complaint:
I hate fade-outs.
No debate why they do it, I understand.
But the estate should provide download-codes on every CD and Vinyl-Box for full versions for those who are interested IMO.
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Reply #56 posted 07/16/20 11:21am

BlueShakooo

purplepolitician said:

Fun fact (thank u princevault): 86 version of this recorded on this day 34 years ago pray

NICE! smile
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Reply #57 posted 07/16/20 11:21am

LoveGalore

mushmackalenta said:

bluegangsta said:

Quite amazing to hear! I think it sounds pretty similar to Do It All Night, but can definitly hear why some still suspect this is from 82, as it also kind of sounds like Do Yourself A Favor.

Unfortunately the Bolas hard-panning and mono reverb strikes again.

Yes. This is a Frankenstein mix.

YOU'RE a Frankenstein mix.

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Reply #58 posted 07/16/20 11:23am

LoveGalore

jaawwnn said:

He briefly uses it in Soft & Wet, his debut single, but it's a good point. Could the vocals have been recorded later? The drum sound and synths sound pure Dirty Mind to me.

Much like how the sound on Don't Let Him Fool Ya sounds exactly like Dirty Mind sessions to me, I think that that stripped down sound is just kinda how Prince sounds when he demos something in a rock genre. See also a bunch of the other demos on 1999 SDE like Can't Stop, Vagina, etc.

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Reply #59 posted 07/16/20 11:33am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Handwritten lyrics: https://www.instagram.com...tU1dOF7l2/

Nice little tidbit to see that the first line was gonna be "She was only fifteen when her old man ran away" before Prince crossed it out. I imagine he changed it pretty quickly.


I'd never "looked" at the lyrics before, but it's interesting that, written down, the refrain is basically prose, which is unusual in a pop song.

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