Now that we have some insight from Michael Howe as to what was included and what is not included on the upcoming SIGN' O' THE TIMES box set, there are a few other songs from these sessions that will not be on the set. Perhaps these are the ones he was referring to that he felt did not fit the full scope of what the project should be. These are the songs that are not part of the set and to my knowledge have not leaked in any way during the years:

CONVERSATION PIECE - Recorded January 12th, 1986

FUNNY LOVE - Recorded March 11th, 1986

TWOSDAY - Recorded March 11th, 1986

FRUSTRATION - Recorded May 10th, 1986

BOY U BAD - Recorded May 11th, 1986

PONY RIDE - Recorded December 26th, 1986

There are other reccrdings that were skipped I know. Obviously Can't Stop This Feelin' I Got, Data Bank, We Can Funk and Girl 'O' My Dreams. My guess is some of those could be held for an ORIGINALS collection. The same could be said about his demos of YO MISTER, TELEPATHY, AND HOW and VIOLET BLUE.

I was the most disappointed in the fact that FRUSTRATION, BOY U BAD and PONY RIDE were missing from the set personally.

(SIDE NOTE: I don't understand how to post topics or replies on this forum where there are spaces between each line like it is when I type it. When I preview the message, it shows up all together with no spaces? How do you keep it spaced? I'm not forum technical)

jaorecords said:

Now that we have some insight from Michael Howe as to what was included and what is not included on the upcoming SIGN' O' THE TIMES box set, there are a few other songs from these sessions that will not be on the set. Perhaps these are the ones he was referring to that he felt did not fit the full scope of what the project should be. These are the songs that are not part of the set and to my knowledge have not leaked in any way during the years:

CONVERSATION PIECE - Recorded January 12th, 1986

FUNNY LOVE - Recorded March 11th, 1986

TWOSDAY - Recorded March 11th, 1986

FRUSTRATION - Recorded May 10th, 1986

BOY U BAD - Recorded May 11th, 1986

PONY RIDE - Recorded December 26th, 1986

There are other reccrdings that were skipped I know. Obviously Can't Stop This Feelin' I Got, Data Bank, We Can Funk and Girl 'O' My Dreams. My guess is some of those could be held for an ORIGINALS collection. The same could be said about his demos of YO MISTER, TELEPATHY, AND HOW and VIOLET BLUE.

I was the most disappointed in the fact that FRUSTRATION, BOY U BAD and PONY RIDE were missing from the set personally.

(SIDE NOTE: I don't understand how to post topics or replies on this forum where there are spaces between each line like it is when I type it. When I preview the message, it shows up all together with no spaces? How do you keep it spaced? I'm not forum technical)

There is a possibility that 2 of those songs are on this set (Hidden tracks) as it has been pointed out that disc 6 is short on time and there are 2 missing tracks from the numbers on Questloves leak

i hate to be realistic, but i see zero reason why the set would contain any hidden tracks. if they wanted to include them, they would've included them so that the "62 unreleased tracks!" marketing line could've gone up to 63.

boy would i love to be proven wrong.

jaorecords said:

(SIDE NOTE: I don't understand how to post topics or replies on this forum where there are spaces between each line like it is when I type it. When I preview the message, it shows up all together with no spaces? How do you keep it spaced? I'm not forum technical)

Hold down shift and press enter. Don't ask me why it is like this. Just be happy that the site is up and running like we are


EG

it is possable that the masters or mix or tape of releasable quality wee not found?

or maybe some of them were kept for Parade?

OnlyNDaUsa said:

To me, titles like Pony Ride, Twosday and Conversation Piece, sound like the types of names he gave to instrumentals. They could be more Flesh / Madhouse stuff.

jaorecords said:

Now that we have some insight from Michael Howe as to what was included and what is not included on the upcoming SIGN' O' THE TIMES box set, there are a few other songs from these sessions that will not be on the set. Perhaps these are the ones he was referring to that he felt did not fit the full scope of what the project should be. These are the songs that are not part of the set and to my knowledge have not leaked in any way during the years:

CONVERSATION PIECE - Recorded January 12th, 1986

FUNNY LOVE - Recorded March 11th, 1986

TWOSDAY - Recorded March 11th, 1986

FRUSTRATION - Recorded May 10th, 1986

BOY U BAD - Recorded May 11th, 1986

PONY RIDE - Recorded December 26th, 1986

There are other reccrdings that were skipped I know. Obviously Can't Stop This Feelin' I Got, Data Bank, We Can Funk and Girl 'O' My Dreams. My guess is some of those could be held for an ORIGINALS collection. The same could be said about his demos of YO MISTER, TELEPATHY, AND HOW and VIOLET BLUE.

I was the most disappointed in the fact that FRUSTRATION, BOY U BAD and PONY RIDE were missing from the set personally.

(SIDE NOTE: I don't understand how to post topics or replies on this forum where there are spaces between each line like it is when I type it. When I preview the message, it shows up all together with no spaces? How do you keep it spaced? I'm not forum technical)

I stick a period on a line when I want spaces between lines...

purplethunder3121 said:

jaorecords said:

Now that we have some insight from Michael Howe as to what was included and what is not included on the upcoming SIGN' O' THE TIMES box set, there are a few other songs from these sessions that will not be on the set. Perhaps these are the ones he was referring to that he felt did not fit the full scope of what the project should be. These are the songs that are not part of the set and to my knowledge have not leaked in any way during the years:

CONVERSATION PIECE - Recorded January 12th, 1986

FUNNY LOVE - Recorded March 11th, 1986

TWOSDAY - Recorded March 11th, 1986

FRUSTRATION - Recorded May 10th, 1986

BOY U BAD - Recorded May 11th, 1986

PONY RIDE - Recorded December 26th, 1986

There are other reccrdings that were skipped I know. Obviously Can't Stop This Feelin' I Got, Data Bank, We Can Funk and Girl 'O' My Dreams. My guess is some of those could be held for an ORIGINALS collection. The same could be said about his demos of YO MISTER, TELEPATHY, AND HOW and VIOLET BLUE.

I was the most disappointed in the fact that FRUSTRATION, BOY U BAD and PONY RIDE were missing from the set personally.

(SIDE NOTE: I don't understand how to post topics or replies on this forum where there are spaces between each line like it is when I type it. When I preview the message, it shows up all together with no spaces? How do you keep it spaced? I'm not forum technical)

I stick a period on a line when I want spaces between lines...

or

just

press

and

hold

Shift!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I stick a period on a line when I want spaces between lines...

or

just

press

and

hold

Shift!

Yeah, forgot all about that one. A period works, too.

SquirrelMeat said:

To me, titles like Pony Ride, Twosday and Conversation Piece, sound like the types of names he gave to instrumentals. They could be more Flesh / Madhouse stuff.

Pony Ride sounds like it should have lyrics if it got finished, but it's also recorded like two weeks after Le Grind which already has a a pony ride themed chorus.

lavendardrummachine said:

SquirrelMeat said:

To me, titles like Pony Ride, Twosday and Conversation Piece, sound like the types of names he gave to instrumentals. They could be more Flesh / Madhouse stuff.

Pony Ride sounds like it should have lyrics if it got finished, but it's also recorded like two weeks after Le Grind which already has a a pony ride themed chorus.

and a few years later he did "Horny Pony"

OnlyNDaUsa said:

lavendardrummachine said:

Pony Ride sounds like it should have lyrics if it got finished, but it's also recorded like two weeks after Le Grind which already has a a pony ride themed chorus.

and a few years later he did "Horny Pony"

also, "my pony" with george clinton.

Romeoblu said:

Conversation Piece has leaked, it's an Instrumental. It could well have been saved for Parade along with Funny Love and Twosday.

Yeah, I'm surprised no one remembers it, it was on a BFTP IIRC. Great instrumental cut and clearly a Flesh afterthought. At worst it totally belongs on a Parade reissue, at best it belongs on a massive The Flesh boxset that would probably be the most critically acclaimed posthumous Prince release of all times

.

Now the otehr tracks I haven't heard, but I wouldn't worry about it. There simply is no way you're gonna stuff P's whole recording sessions for a whole year into 2 or 3 CD's. I didn't expect it with 1999 Deluxe and I didn't expect it for SOTT Deluxe either. As long as they release something I'm happy, as long as they don't butcher it with Frankenstein mixes. What they leave out = cool stuff left for future releases, I can live with it.

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I always wonder if Pony Ride is Palamino Pleasure Ride

Twosday and Frustration sound like instrumentals to me, which I'm not, like, dying to hear based on Conversation Piece...

Pony Ride and Boy U Bad sound more like proper songs, they could've peppered in these few on the SOTT set. I'd rather have them than the Strange Relationship remix, for instance.