"Slow Love" is so sensual, that our two dogs twist and love to it.
Seriously. And they're both male.s

There are no weak tracks on SOTT. I want to shout love for Slow Love. I think more than most albums he did, Prince really wanted to showcase how he can be great on a wide range of types of songs. So, I think Slow Love is a great example of how he mastered the traditional R&B ballad. His voice is gorgeous on the song, and his "eyes never lie" stick with me to this day.

Big love for Slow Love

TrivialPursuit said:

rusty1 said:

Yes, I hear you - these are weak songs (the production on It sounds really dated today), when I had the cassette, I'd always have to fast forward all of IGBABN to get to Adore - probably the Greatest Song of All Time (or something! ), and often times I'd just get to "confusion", and....confusion, and that was really good fun - it's not a bad song, it's just not the rest of SOTT

I always got into the "transmississippi rap" portion of that 3rd one.

That Chicago ballet perfomance "Billboards" opened my ears to "It" in 1994. Before that I just didn't get into the soundscape.

The concert film opened my ears to the glory of the live track. I'm glad the original live track started circulating years ago, I heard it. It does not have Sheila E rapping over what follows "gimme the bass".

Still haven't gotten into "Slow Love"

laytonian said:

"Slow Love" is so sensual, that our two dogs twist and love to it.
Seriously. And they're both male.s

Really? can dogs twist?

TrivialPursuit said:

"IT" wasn't a favorite, but "Slow Love" is still an underrated Prince ballad. "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" was the first track I just went gaga over. There are a few songs in the middle of disk 1 that I had to get used to, whereas disk 2 was a hit all the way around.

Frankly, the one song that is just hard to hear and feels cheap is "The Cross." (Don't come for me, bitches.)

I sorta feel like "Black Sweat" is "Hot Thing"'s cousin. "Forever in My Life" was always a mistaken genius track, as was "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker."

I swear I had adhd as a younger person, because I just could not be bothered with long and/or sparse shit. Which means "SOTT" "ICNTTPOYM" and "IT" were not favorites. I sometimes skipped them to get to the funky stuff. Sometimes, back then, I let "Adore" slip to the side, too.

I suppose the album is just a lot to absorb. It came out while I was in boot camp so I didn't find it until late April. Being sidetracked with the shithole that is the U.S. military, I wasn't as music centered as I had been before. I missed the details, stories, etc., of the whole campaign, but I did go see SOTT in Philadelphia when it came out.

Cross is cheap in which way?

domainator2010 said:

Yes, I hear you - these are weak songs (the production on It sounds really dated today), when I had the cassette, I'd always have to fast forward all of IGBABN to get to Adore - probably the Greatest Song of All Time (or something! ), and often times I'd just get to "confusion", and....confusion, and that was really good fun - it's not a bad song, it's just not the rest of SOTT

Dated? why?

jaawwnn said:

rusty1 said:

The only weak song is " U got the look" Sign o' the Times is his second best album & last great work. your last point is silly on ICNTTPOYM [Edited 6/5/20 16:23pm]

Its just my opinion, i don't insist that you share it. I always feel like there should be another chorus, clearly prince didn't. I'm cool with that.

Still silly.

slyjackson said:

domainator2010 said:

Yes, I hear you - these are weak songs (the production on It sounds really dated today), when I had the cassette, I'd always have to fast forward all of IGBABN to get to Adore - probably the Greatest Song of All Time (or something! ), and often times I'd just get to "confusion", and....confusion, and that was really good fun - it's not a bad song, it's just not the rest of SOTT

Dated? why?

It actually sounds more contemporary than the entirety of Purple Rain. Dark synths are in. Dated sounding in the 90s maybe. I always assume commentary like that isn't exactly made by people with their finger on the pulse,

slyjackson said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Frankly, the one song that is just hard to hear and feels cheap is "The Cross." (Don't come for me, bitches.)

Cross is cheap in which way?

I think I just hate the strum-strum-strumming on the guitar at the beginning, then the slow kick drum in, etc. It's hissy, quiet, almost can't hear it. It feels like, "God, just get to it already!" When it kicks in, it's a rocker. The verse is a little corny. "Black day, stormy night, no love, no hope in sight". Although it sorta becomes a prelude to "rain is wet, sugar is sweet, clap your hands, stomp your feet." Although the "rain is wet" chant on "Lovesexy" feels way more like a call out and interesting than his moody "black day, stormy night" stuff.

I don't know, it doesn't feel as put together as I would've hoped for. I really is the one song I skip at least 75% of the time.

slyjackson said:

jaawwnn said:

rusty1 said: Its just my opinion, i don't insist that you share it. I always feel like there should be another chorus, clearly prince didn't. I'm cool with that.

Still silly.

Thank u for your input.

repeating myself, but to me the weakest are surely:

The Cross

Beautiful Night

next batch contains:
hot thing

forever in my life

By standards, the weakest is 'U got the look' but it's amusing enough to leave at least 5 others in its trail.

But generally, any of the previous SOTT configurations are better.

TheFman said:

gandorb said:

There are no weak tracks on SOTT. I want to shout love for Slow Love. I think more than most albums he did, Prince really wanted to showcase how he can be great on a wide range of types of songs. So, I think Slow Love is a great example of how he mastered the traditional R&B ballad. His voice is gorgeous on the song, and his "eyes never lie" stick with me to this day.

Big love for Slow Love

Totally agree. His voice is gorgeous on this. This is the one for me that my younger self dismissed as a boring track. But now...

jaawwnn said:

slyjackson said:

Still silly.

Thank u for your input.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

slyjackson said:

Dated? why?

It actually sounds more contemporary than the entirety of Purple Rain. Dark synths are in. Dated sounding in the 90s maybe. I always assume commentary like that isn't exactly made by people with their finger on the pulse,

Actually it does.

Nobody here cares for Shockadelica?

And La La La He He He.

mushmackalenta said:

The only song on Sign I don't love is Forever in My Life. I like it but if one song had to go that would be the one.

I think that with Forever In My Life, it is okay on the album but after hearing how amazing it is in the concert film I usually skip the studio version because it pales by comparison (and length)

I prefer the sparseness of the album version myself, same as how I prefer what he did originally with Nothing Compares vs. the over the top wailing soul live version. I find his quiet stuff more moving than his big, bring the house down gospel moments.

Good to have both though

Poplife88 said:

With all this talk and excitement over a possible Sign o the Times deluxe....got me to thinking...

I bought SOTTs the day it came out back in 87 on CD (long box!!!). Loved it from day 1, but DO remember thinking back in the day these were the weakest tracks on the album. When I taped the album to cassette to listen in the car and walkman I would leave these off, and replace with some b-sides, remixes, or faves from other albums. So for years I just wrote them off.

Fast foward to now...like SOOO many Prince tracks and albums...these have since grown on me. They have become three of my fave tracks of the album. It, in particular, is brilliant imo. Give it to maturity or age, or just nostalgia, but the whole album really is perfection. I wouldn't THINK of leaving ANY of them off.

Anyone feel the same or have other tracks that you once you rejected and have grown to LOVE?

[Edited 6/5/20 12:22pm]

I agree. I'm not a fan of live tracks on studio albums generally so I would have been happy for Beautiful Night to have been flip released as a B-side and swapped with La La La He He He. I would actually have prefered to see Crystal Ball or two shorter songs like Last Heart and All My Dreams used in that album slot.

I think replacing IT with Good Love, Shockadelica or Feel U Up would have made a stronger side 2 opening.

Crucial would have been stronger than Slow Love, but I think I would have prefered a faster tempo song in that slot, like Witness ('Camille' version). It might even have flowed better to not have a song in the Slow Love slot and allowed a non editted version of Forever In My Life to close the side off.

TheFman said:

SquirrelMeat said:

rusty1 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I agree. I'm not a fan of live tracks on studio albums generally so I would have been happy for Beautiful Night to have been flip released as a B-side and swapped with La La La He He He. I would actually have prefered to see Crystal Ball or two shorter songs like Last Heart and All My Dreams used in that album slot.

I think replacing IT with Good Love, Shockadelica or Feel U Up would have made a stronger side 2 opening.

Crucial would have been stronger than Slow Love, but I think I would have prefered a faster tempo song in that slot, like Witness ('Camille' version). It might even have flowed better to not have a song in the Slow Love slot and allowed a non editted version of Forever In My Life to close the side off.

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 "Sign o'the Times is great just the way it is. [Edited 6/11/20 10:51am]

It coud haven greater with Shockacelica, La, La, La and Good Love in there.

rusty1 said:

A lot of fans on here don't get it. They won't accept that his 80's era is far superior to the rest of his career. Without 1979 to 1987, there wouldn't be a prince.org at all. Again, Prince had some good albums in the 1990's but not consistently so. His holy grail especially was from 1982 thru 1987. Most of his B-sides from that era were solid as well. But some fans on here fight the fact that his 80's period was his best. That era i mentioned from 79 to 87.. Prince rarely had a weak song tbat was awful or cringeworthy. In the 90's, there were a lot of half baked songs. Albums such as "chaos & disorder", "come", 3121, Musicology, Planet Earth had a ton of songs that were weak & felt like throw away albums. [Edited 6/11/20 11:10am] [Edited 6/11/20 11:11am] [Edited 6/11/20 11:12am]

You're not lying.

rusty1 said:

jaawwnn said:

Slow Love agree, it took a while for that one to grow on me, it's still probably my least favourite although we're talking least favourite amongst a bunch of 9.5+'s out of 10.

It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night has been one of my top songs on that album since day 1, I've never understood why people don't dig it. Too much of one groove? For me, it never gets boring. I actually prefer it to the doublespeed tour version, although obviously I still like that.

I suppose IT could be seen as weak, and I think it suffers from placing next to Hot Thing, but once you get into what he's doing - building up one groove heavier and heavier as he gets more and more into .... *it*.... it makes sense.

The only thing that bugs me on the album these days is the lack of a final chorus for I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man.

The only weak song is " U got the look" Sign o' the Times is his second best album & last great work. your last point is silly on ICNTTPOYM [Edited 6/5/20 16:23pm]

I think we have to keep in mind though that music is subjective! We all have our preferences and they are all valid