https://www.musicinminnes...overrated/

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(The article was actually published on 29 May 2019, BTW.)

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Note that the author has also written https://www.musicinminnes...overrated/ .

Thanks a quite thoughtful article, agreed on his point of view.

Good article, thanks for sharing Bart.

TheTruth123 said:

The other thing I was going to say and wish I had after just looking at the first few sentences of the article, is that people have a tendency to build a figure up, then tear them down. I felt the article would be an expression of that too. In Prince’s case he deserved every bit of that build up.

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People also, particuarly on this site, have a tendency to jump to typical Prince-adulation-fuelled conclusions about the content of articles they didn't bother to read.

You really should read the article. You are deluding yourself if you think there is any value whatsoever to anything you say about an article you haven't read.

Read the damn article - all of it, and then say something sensible about it.

I read the article. It's overrated to write about an artist being overrated with the angle being - you don't like the artist's work, so you can say they aren't overrated because you have perspective. This piece screams deadline fodder.

poppys said:

mtlfan said:

introduced SMS language twenty years early

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Oh sweet jebus, this nonsense again. https://www.visualthesaur...from-1828/

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TheTruth123 said:

The other thing I was going to say and wish I had after just looking at the first few sentences of the article, is that people have a tendency to build a figure up, then tear them down. I felt the article would be an expression of that too. In Prince’s case he deserved every bit of that build up.

Read the goddamn article 'fore you make asumptions.

mtlfan said:

In my humble opinion the article is basically about... nothing... bla bla bla...

does overrated mean I don't like Prince's music? Yes, it does.. well, thank you, it was really worth reading.

basically boring...

however, the question is quite interesting... Is Prince's music overrated?

Is his music, without the person behind, just lookin at the music notes, really that good? Is his music, only by appreciating the audio of his recordings (production, voice and instrument arrangement and performance), without even knowing who the actual perforrmer is, that mindblowing?

Wasn't it the performer/the charisma/the package becoming much more important in the 80's without much interesting happening musically? Isn't it that the success of Prince's music has much to do with him crossing to the white audience when it started to become possible?

I am not answering these questions, but I think to state them is actually an interesting challenge. Anyone joining?

btw, I am a Prince fan since I was a teenager, I still listen and appreciate his music. Though of course I see a lot of silliness and kitsch in some of his output. Not mentioning the whole woman image in his songwriting/concert performance. Sometimes I can't really listen/watch...

agarze said:

In my humble opinion the article is basically about... nothing... bla bla bla...

does overrated mean I don't like Prince's music? Yes, it does.. well, thank you, it was really worth reading.

basically boring...

however, the question is quite interesting... Is Prince's music overrated?

Is his music, without the person behind, just lookin at the music notes, really that good? Is his music, only by appreciating the audio of his recordings (production, voice and instrument arrangement and performance), without even knowing who the actual perforrmer is, that mindblowing?

Wasn't it the performer/the charisma/the package becoming much more important in the 80's without much interesting happening musically? Isn't it that the success of Prince's music has much to do with him crossing to the white audience when it started to become possible?

I am not answering these questions, but I think to state them is actually an interesting challenge. Anyone joining?

btw, I am a Prince fan since I was a teenager, I still listen and appreciate his music. Though of course I see a lot of silliness and kitsch in some of his output. Not mentioning the whole woman image in his songwriting/concert performance. Sometimes I can't really listen/watch...

What an interesting take on the subject matter, and this might apply to every single artist there is out there.

Spare yourself the reading.

Three paragraphs into it, the guy hasn't said anything remotely interesting.
It's poorly written, aligns dull statements, and goes nowhere.
Reads like a 12 year old homework.
And yes, he doesn't know squat about Prince.

Here's an excerpt that sums the article pretty well:
"This, of course, is self-aggrandizing bullshit."

Right from the intro, the guy himself admits he's doing clickbait.
And at the end, the mask drops.
On the pretense of signing the article, he hopes we go listen to one of his
"7 albums and 8 EPs featuring his unique blend of rock n' roll, modern rock, and Americana".

"Unique blend?" Reminds me of a company that sells
processed hormoned tasteless chicken by the ton
claiming it has 11 herbs and spices in it.

Bart, not every shit on the internet is worth linking to.
Much less discussing it.

the only thing to say is - who the fuck is Erik?

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

the only thing to say is - who the fuck is Erik?

Exactly. This piece (OS) reminds me of those writers no one cares about, who have to resort to taking "bold" contarian stances in order to get any attention for their writing. It's pretty transparent in this case.

Not that you have to love Prince, or even like him. But even if you're not a fan of his music, his talent and life's work speak for themselves, and deserve respect.

This article leaves the reader asking pressing questions such as: Erik, have you ever farted in church? Picked a blade of grass, held it to the sky and examined its angles and textures? Maybe crawled behind a spider for the evening? Moonwalked while wearing z cavaricci shorts? Contemplated what was for dinner? Why do I write? And the paper...who sends this to print? This is a stoner conversation between friends as they pass the bowl. Or, one lone stoner surrounded by too much pizza.

bonatoc said:

Spare yourself the reading.

Three paragraphs into it, the guy hasn't said anything remotely interesting.
It's poorly written, aligns dull statements, and goes nowhere.
Reads like a 12 year old homework.
And yes, he doesn't know squat about Prince.

Here's an excerpt that sums the article pretty well:
"This, of course, is self-aggrandizing bullshit."

Right from the intro, the guy himself admits he's doing clickbait.
And at the end, the mask drops.
On the pretense of signing the article, he hopes we go listen to one of his
"7 albums and 8 EPs featuring his unique blend of rock n' roll, modern rock, and Americana".

"Unique blend?" Reminds me of a company that sells
processed hormoned tasteless chicken by the ton
claiming it has 11 herbs and spices in it.

Bart, not every shit on the internet is worth linking to.
Much less discussing it.

Don't be such a bitch Jane.

agarze said:

slyjackson said:

Don't be such a bitch Jane.

Who do U call Jane, Billy Jack?

misiu said:

agarze said:

In my humble opinion the article is basically about... nothing... bla bla bla...

does overrated mean I don't like Prince's music? Yes, it does.. well, thank you, it was really worth reading.

basically boring...

however, the question is quite interesting... Is Prince's music overrated?

Is his music, without the person behind, just lookin at the music notes, really that good? Is his music, only by appreciating the audio of his recordings (production, voice and instrument arrangement and performance), without even knowing who the actual perforrmer is, that mindblowing?

Wasn't it the performer/the charisma/the package becoming much more important in the 80's without much interesting happening musically? Isn't it that the success of Prince's music has much to do with him crossing to the white audience when it started to become possible?

I am not answering these questions, but I think to state them is actually an interesting challenge. Anyone joining?

btw, I am a Prince fan since I was a teenager, I still listen and appreciate his music. Though of course I see a lot of silliness and kitsch in some of his output. Not mentioning the whole woman image in his songwriting/concert performance. Sometimes I can't really listen/watch...

Very good point! We love prince because of the whole package. But people, who just Listen to music and dont care for the Person and are maybe musicians themselves, they see it different. I talked once to someone, who got sign o the times. He wasn’t very impressed, and told me he didnt like it. He said, its empty and lifeless. I told him, that prince played almost everything on that album. He said, it sounds That way. He said, maybe prince should hire or use musicians on his record and work the songs out. Maybe then they would sound more interesting. ( he Said with a smile: or isnt prince willing Or able to pay musicians) . I can understand that opinion. I love sott, one of my 1st records, but when u hear the rehearsals for that tour. The band takes it to the next level!!

That's true.

bonatoc said:

slyjackson said:

Don't be such a bitch Jane.

Who do U call Jane, Billy Jack?

I was thinkin out loud, my bad.