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Reply #60 posted 04/28/20 7:35am

SchlomoThaHomo

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I'm leery of anyone who tries to monetize something that should be sacred. However, I did enjoy the stories they provided. I feel like there's a lot of sitting through long former-associates interviews and finding out hardly anything new since Prince passed. I actually learned some new info with this one, and I thought they shed some light on who he was before he passed.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #61 posted 04/28/20 8:43am

klick2me

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I'm leery of anyone who tries to monetize something that should be sacred. However, I did enjoy the stories they provided. I feel like there's a lot of sitting through long former-associates interviews and finding out hardly anything new since Prince passed. I actually learned some new info with this one, and I thought they shed some light on who he was before he passed.



Ever see the video with Maya, the one who created the
album cover for AOA? I found that to be very informative.

Here's a link:

https://youtu.be/tQokp8Bnwlo
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Reply #62 posted 04/28/20 9:11am

violetcrush

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I'm leery of anyone who tries to monetize something that should be sacred. However, I did enjoy the stories they provided. I feel like there's a lot of sitting through long former-associates interviews and finding out hardly anything new since Prince passed. I actually learned some new info with this one, and I thought they shed some light on who he was before he passed.



....or they saw the person Prince wanted them to see. I do think by the end he may have let his guard down a bit more, but probably still had that “wall” around him.
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His first P&M show was so full of emotion and transparency, and confirmed many of the anecdotes written about him through the years. Beautiful.
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Reply #63 posted 04/28/20 9:45am

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They’re a cute couple, they really are. This is their second child, right? But I couldn’t sit still and listen as parts dragged on. I got up and started to clean the house. I was a tad disappointed I obviously expected more, I most certainly wanted more, but what stories about P I did catch I liked. I was surprised to see / hear Meron (not sure if that’s spelt correctly) was that not Prince’s last Personal Assistant? Again disappointed. An anti climax
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Reply #64 posted 04/28/20 11:34am

kygermo

I thought they were corny then, and find them to be even more corny now. These 2 and the bizarre influence they had on P never sat well with me. Was also very distasteful of her to talk about her salary. These 2 also strike me as the overbearing kool-aid drinking types that bbq tofu burgers with Kirk Cameron and his people every Saturday in the summer (Never on Sundays, though. Can't miss being with the congregation and having the prestegious honor of being ushers in charge of passing those collection baskets from aisle to aisle).

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She's a great drummer, no doubt. Ideal for 3EG and the heavier rock sound Prince was aiming for with them. However, she didnt have a funky bone in her body and her intricate, heavy-handed and lead-footed style really made those expanded NPG lineups sound stiff as a board. She sounded totally out of her element, and it was clear as day.

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Josh? Well, besides being an absolutely batshit crazy choice as the remastering engineer for PR, did he do anything else of substance in contributing? Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on.

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Reply #65 posted 04/28/20 11:52am

laytonian

udo said:

jdcxc said:

The Obama jacket was cool, but we need to hear more stories and insight into that historic concert experience...maybe the Documentary.

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Obama and cool in once sentence. lol

When a `president` has so much war to do, cannot show his actual birth papers, kills his own people without due trial, then what has that nation become?

Clinton was cool because he did womething in music, but he was also a sexual predator.

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The PR thing is way more important because they destroyed the most well known record of that man.


Obama did show his birth certificate; it's amazingly like the one my niece (born in Hawaii) has.

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Reply #66 posted 04/28/20 11:53am

looby

kygermo said:

I thought they were corny then, and find them to be even more corny now. These 2 and the bizarre influence they had on P never sat well with me. Was also very distasteful of her to talk about her salary. These 2 also strike me as the overbearing kool-aid drinking types that bbq tofu burgers with Kirk Cameron and his people every Saturday in the summer (Never on Sundays, though. Can't miss being with the congregation and having the prestegious honor of being ushers in charge of passing those collection baskets from aisle to aisle).

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She's a great drummer, no doubt. Ideal for 3EG and the heavier rock sound Prince was aiming for with them. However, she didnt have a funky bone in her body and her intricate, heavy-handed and lead-footed style really made those expanded NPG lineups sound stiff as a board. She sounded totally out of her element, and it was clear as day.

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Josh? Well, besides being an absolutely batshit crazy choice as the remastering engineer for PR, did he do anything else of substance in contributing? Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on.

I find you and your judgement of them just as corny. Prince was a grown man, who lived his life how he pleased, and if he chose these people as his friends or someone that he wanted in his life, that's no one's business but his! What gives you the right to say what kind of influence they had on him...something you know nothing about, unless you were a part of it! People can live their lives however they want to, because IT'S THEIR LIFE, NOT YOURS! What they do with their lives, and how they live it, is none of your business! Judge not, lest you be judged.....truth and fact!

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Reply #67 posted 04/28/20 11:55am

laytonian

lavendardrummachine said:

bigtimefan said:

I don't think they meant "prophet" as in Nostradamus per say, more that he was very in-tuned and spiritually enlightened which I would 100% agree with.


They mention receiving prophecies a number of times in relation to predicting future events in their lives, including the house he bought them, so it's clear they do think prophets can communite with the lord or have visions of what will happen to people or what their calling is to do.


Prince already owned the home on Red Fox AND it wasn't given to them.
2179 Red Fox is one of the properties owned by the estate and one of the first listed to be sold.

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Reply #68 posted 04/28/20 11:57am

laytonian

GuyBros said:

udo said:

When a `president` has so much war to do, cannot show his actual birth papers, k

Found the birther, ya'll.


Yup. Due to something else that happened recently, I blocked him on Facebook.

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Reply #69 posted 04/28/20 1:01pm

RJOrion

kygermo said:

I thought they were corny then, and find them to be even more corny now. These 2 and the bizarre influence they had on P never sat well with me. Was also very distasteful of her to talk about her salary. These 2 also strike me as the overbearing kool-aid drinking types that bbq tofu burgers with Kirk Cameron and his people every Saturday in the summer (Never on Sundays, though. Can't miss being with the congregation and having the prestegious honor of being ushers in charge of passing those collection baskets from aisle to aisle).


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She's a great drummer, no doubt. Ideal for 3EG and the heavier rock sound Prince was aiming for with them. However, she didnt have a funky bone in her body and her intricate, heavy-handed and lead-footed style really made those expanded NPG lineups sound stiff as a board. She sounded totally out of her element, and it was clear as day.


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Josh? Well, besides being an absolutely batshit crazy choice as the remastering engineer for PR, did he do anything else of substance in contributing? Fuck that guy and the horse he rode in on.



SNIP - Of4$
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Reply #70 posted 04/28/20 1:27pm

peaceandlove

That Josh seems way aggressive-not in a good way.

Hannah seems like a true sweetheart, artist and mother. Prince was drawn to Hannah first , well then ---Josh.....hmmmm. Take a seat Josh. It's your wife with the kindness and talent.

Peaceandlove☮️💜☮️💜
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Reply #71 posted 04/28/20 1:59pm

RJOrion

peaceandlove said:

That Josh seems way aggressive-not in a good way.


Hannah seems like a true sweetheart, artist and mother. Prince was drawn to Hannah first , well then ---Josh.....hmmmm. Take a seat Josh. It's your wife with the kindness and talent.




SNIP - OF4$
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Reply #72 posted 04/28/20 2:04pm

udo

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GuyBros said:

udo said:

snip - OF4$

SNIP - of4$

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snip - oF4$

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #73 posted 04/28/20 2:10pm

looby

peaceandlove said:

That Josh seems way aggressive-not in a good way.

Hannah seems like a true sweetheart, artist and mother. Prince was drawn to Hannah first , well then ---Josh.....hmmmm. Take a seat Josh. It's your wife with the kindness and talent.

What's your problem with this man Josh? Do you know him personally, had a beef with him in real life, or just plain old jealous of him? Why the hostitlity toward someone you know nothing about personally?

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Reply #74 posted 04/28/20 3:49pm

lavendardrumma
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laytonian said:

lavendardrummachine said:


They mention receiving prophecies a number of times in relation to predicting future events in their lives, including the house he bought them, so it's clear they do think prophets can communite with the lord or have visions of what will happen to people or what their calling is to do.


Prince already owned the home on Red Fox AND it wasn't given to them.
2179 Red Fox is one of the properties owned by the estate and one of the first listed to be sold.



No idea, I'm just going by what they said and it's not really our business if title's under their name, gifted, being sold, wasn't actually given to them, or what. How do those specifics change things?

They credit receiving the house as part of a prophetic fulfillment.

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Reply #75 posted 04/28/20 3:57pm

lavendardrumma
chine

RJOrion said:

but i overstand your coded comment...smh... some things will never change.



I have no idea why you think that's justified, but if "aggressive" isn't the right phrase for primarily Josh but also Hannah, talking about Prince's Bentley, then what is?

They obviously had that kind of relationship with him, but the story does come off to outsiders as forward. Aggressive seems pretty apt.

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Reply #76 posted 04/28/20 4:03pm

delirious

Very unprofessional stating what they were paid per week to be on the payroll - I know other people that were in the band at that time and did not get paid anywhere near that much. This should not have been mentioned publicly IMHO.

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Reply #77 posted 04/28/20 4:29pm

RJOrion

lavendardrummachine said:



RJOrion said:


but i overstand your coded comment...smh... some things will never change.



I have no idea why you think that's justified, but if "aggressive" isn't the right phrase for primarily Josh but also Hannah, talking about Prince's Bentley, then what is?

They obviously had that kind of relationship with him, but the story does come off to outsiders as forward. Aggressive seems pretty apt.




Aggression is overt or covert, often harmful, social interaction with the intention of inflicting damage or other unpleasantness upon another individual. It may occur either reactively or without provocation. In humans, aggression can be caused by various triggers, from frustration due to blocked goals to feeling disrespected.[1] Human aggression can be classified into direct and indirect aggression; whilst the former is characterized by physical or verbal behavior intended to cause harm to someone, the latter is characterized by behavior intended to harm the social relations of an individual or group.[2][3]

In definitions commonly used in the social sciences and behavioral sciences, aggression is an action or response by an individual that delivers something unpleasant to another person.[4] Some definitions include that the individual must intend to harm another person.


so do tell...how is Josh or Hannah being aggressive?
... or are some people just predisposed to believe in Josh's alleged aggressiveness and Hannah's "true sweetheart" status?... nothing about Joshua Welton comes off as "aggressive"..SNIP -OF4$ dude the race baiting
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Reply #78 posted 04/28/20 4:36pm

lavendardrumma
chine

RJOrion said:

Aggression is overt or covert, often harmful, social interaction with the intention of inflicting damage or other unpleasantness upon another individual. It may occur either reactively or without provocation. In humans, aggression can be caused by various triggers, from frustration due to blocked goals to feeling disrespected.[1] Human aggression can be classified into direct and indirect aggression; whilst the former is characterized by physical or verbal behavior intended to cause harm to someone, the latter is characterized by behavior intended to harm the social relations of an individual or group.[2][3] In definitions commonly used in the social sciences and behavioral sciences, aggression is an action or response by an individual that delivers something unpleasant to another person.[4] Some definitions include that the individual must intend to harm another person. so do tell...how is Josh or Hannah being aggressive? ... or are some people just predisposed to believe in Josh's alleged aggressiveness and Hannah's "true sweetheart" status?... nothing about Joshua Weldon comes off as "aggressive"

"..SNIP -OF4$ dude the race baiting


Just stop.

One definition of aggression is:

"forceful and sometimes overly assertive pursuit of one's aims and interests"

How doesn't that apply because a multiracial couple is involved?

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Reply #79 posted 04/28/20 4:41pm

vinaysfunk

I don’t know why there is so much hostility on this thread. I am referring to both sides. I can completely understand those that find them annoying for their particularly religious style and I can also understand those that admire that Prince brought them into his own inner circle of his own free choice. But it is well known that Prince saw Hannah’s skills online and chose her to be the drummer for his band 3EG. He attempted to just focus on Hannah and her drumming skills but Josh was always hanging around and was bound to her hip. He then realized that he couldn’t separate them and thought about it and accepted that he had to incorporate Josh into his life even though it wasn’t his first choice. Compromise and accommodate is simply what Prince did. No more no less. To keep Hannah in the band.

So c’mom purple family lets let up a little and accept people for who they are and what they aren’t. They can be somewhat annoying people who Prince loved and can be slightly unfunky while hanging with the funkiest man to walk the planet.

Love41another
[Edited 4/28/20 16:48pm]
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Reply #80 posted 04/28/20 5:11pm

RJOrion

lavendardrummachine said:



RJOrion said:


Aggression is overt or covert, often harmful, social interaction with the intention of inflicting damage or other unpleasantness upon another individual. It may occur either reactively or without provocation. In humans, aggression can be caused by various triggers, from frustration due to blocked goals to feeling disrespected.[1] Human aggression can be classified into direct and indirect aggression; whilst the former is characterized by physical or verbal behavior intended to cause harm to someone, the latter is characterized by behavior intended to harm the social relations of an individual or group.[2][3] In definitions commonly used in the social sciences and behavioral sciences, aggression is an action or response by an individual that delivers something unpleasant to another person.[4] Some definitions include that the individual must intend to harm another person. so do tell...how is Josh or Hannah being aggressive? ... or are some people just predisposed to believe in Josh's alleged aggressiveness and Hannah's "true sweetheart" status?... nothing about Joshua Weldon comes off as "aggressive"..unless youre just afraid of a young, clean cut, African-American, Christian man, who had the honor to be chosen by Prince, and is now building a career, a ministry, and a family with his European-American wife?


Just stop.

One definition of aggression is:

"forceful and sometimes overly assertive pursuit of one's aims and interests"

How doesn't that apply because a multiracial couple is involved?




no YOU stop...you should know that there are certain terms and code words historically and currently used by the "dominant" culture, when discussing black men... words like "Thug", "aggressive", "militant",.. so your attempt to bend the true meaning of the word, and post some abstract alternative meaning, is a wasted effort...nice try though.
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Reply #81 posted 04/28/20 5:20pm

RJOrion

vinaysfunk said:

I don’t know why there is so much hostility on this thread. I am referring to both sides. I can completely understand those that find them annoying for their particularly religious style and I can also understand those that admire that Prince brought them into his own inner circle of his own free choice. But it is well known that Prince saw Hannah’s skills online and chose her to be the drummer for his band 3EG. He attempted to just focus on Hannah and her drumming skills but Josh was always hanging around and was bound to her hip. He then realized that he couldn’t separate them and thought about it and accepted that he had to incorporate Josh into his life even though it wasn’t his first choice. Compromise and accommodate is simply what Prince did. No more no less. To keep Hannah in the band.

So c’mom purple family lets let up a little and accept people for who they are and what they aren’t. They can be somewhat annoying people who Prince loved and can be slightly unfunky while hanging with the funkiest man to walk the planet.

Love41another
[Edited 4/28/20 16:48pm]



in your comment, you say your information is "well known"...well known by whom?...you read it in someone's comment box?...show me where Prince said ANY of that...Josh was doing music before he got chosen by Prince....Prince entrusted Josh to remix and work on some of his unfinished music and even play keyboards, which IS well known if you'd bother to research it, instead of assuming stuff or just flat out lying..so humor me, and tell me some more of your "well known" info about what Joshua Weldon actually did (or didnt do) at Paisley Park, and show receipts... unless youre just blowin' in the wind, as i suspect
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Reply #82 posted 04/28/20 5:27pm

RJOrion

another commonly used coded word or trigger word used to describe black men..."hostile"

LOL...some of you just cant help yourselves... y'all making this too easy...im sure one of yall will cry to a mod to lock the thread...but its OK... your true feelings are now "WELL KNOWN"
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Reply #83 posted 04/28/20 5:29pm

lavendardrumma
chine

RJOrion said:


no YOU stop...you should know that there are certain terms and code words historically and currently used by the "dominant" culture, when discussing black men... words like "Thug", "aggressive", "militant",.. so your attempt to bend the true meaning of the word, and post some abstract alternative meaning, is a wasted effort...nice try though.


Sure, there are code words and racism, but that's not on display here...and you're interjecting that struggle in here is no different than people interjecting their anti-religion feelings.

I'm not bending "the true meaning" of the word, I cut through the projection of racialist minutia with the challenge that you can't say there isn't a meaning of the word that doesn't fit what they described with the Bentley story.

He said to his wealthy celebrity boss "that's going to be mine". Who does that? How can you imply that's a racial trait to act like that, and criticism is based on his race? It's not. Neither was their internalized thoughts that he's the type who could have just handed them the keys permanently.



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Reply #84 posted 04/28/20 5:41pm

RJOrion

lavendardrummachine said:



RJOrion said:



no YOU stop...you should know that there are certain terms and code words historically and currently used by the "dominant" culture, when discussing black men... words like "Thug", "aggressive", "militant",.. so your attempt to bend the true meaning of the word, and post some abstract alternative meaning, is a wasted effort...nice try though.


Sure, there are code words and racism, but that's not on display here...and you're interjecting that struggle in here is no different than people interjecting their anti-religion feelings.

I'm not bending "the true meaning" of the word, I cut through the projection of racialist minutia with the challenge that you can't say there isn't a meaning of the word that doesn't fit what they described with the Bentley story.

He said to his wealthy celebrity boss "that's going to be mine". Who does that? How can you imply that's a racial trait to act like that, and criticism is based on his race? It's not. Neither was their internalized thoughts that he's the type who could have just handed them the keys permanently.





look here...dont even address me further...i really think youre trying to get the thread locked..i didnt "interject" any so-called struggle..i presented hardcore facts and real behaviors that are on display in this very thread...but you felt the need to address me when i didnt seek your response...then when i reply with facts and reality, you belittle it as "racialist minutia" and compare it erroneously to "anti-religion feelings"...for your sake (and the sake of the thread) give it up, because a few of you are showing your horns.
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Reply #85 posted 04/28/20 5:42pm

vinaysfunk

Hey settle down RJOrion. I don’t know why your so worked up? Prince was looking for a drummer and he found it in Hannah. He wasn’t looking to hire Josh. But when he found out how close they were and how they couldn’t be separated he accepted them both as a combination package. I don’t have the exact quote from Prince but my source is from well known interviews with Prince about his band 3EG. I don’t keep the articles because I never think that someone would question the veracity of my statement. I am sure others here know the story well and will give you the actual article and or interview I am referencing. It’s not a secret how he felt. Prince did’t seek out Josh he sought out Hannah.

And I don’t mean this as a slight towards Josh. I am just stating how it happened. And that’s according to Prince. Again I don’t remember the exact words but it was Prince himself who remarked that “I guess I can’t separate these two” and he was impressed by their love for one another.

Again I am sure others here will collaborate what I am saying with specific references.
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Reply #86 posted 04/28/20 5:56pm

RJOrion

vinaysfunk said:

Hey settle down RJOrion. I don’t know why your so worked up? Prince was looking for a drummer and he found it in Hannah. He wasn’t looking to hire Josh. But when he found out how close they were and how they couldn’t be separated he accepted them both as a combination package. I don’t have the exact quote from Prince but my source is from well known interviews with Prince about his band 3EG. I don’t keep the articles because I never think that someone would question the veracity of my statement. I am sure others here know the story well and will give you the actual article and or interview I am referencing. It’s not a secret how he felt. Prince did’t seek out Josh he sought out Hannah.

And I don’t mean this as a slight towards Josh. I am just stating how it happened. And that’s according to Prince. Again I don’t remember the exact words but it was Prince himself who remarked that “I guess I can’t separate these two” and he was impressed by their love for one another.

Again I am sure others here will collaborate what I am saying with specific references.


oh im quite settled...im not the one
calling people "batshit crazy" and telling them "fuck Josh and the horse he rode in on" (you probably should have told THAT person to "settle down")...the whole thread im wondering what the true reason is for all the hate and pettiness directed towards Joshua Welton...and instead of people being honest, some are responding with lies, rumors and their own unsubstantiated beliefs...BUT i guess i must be somehow pre-disposed to displaying "hostility" and "aggression" which makes my typed words threatening, to the point i need to "settle down"...bless your heart...the truth is only unsettling to a liar.
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Reply #87 posted 04/28/20 6:03pm

vinaysfunk

Well I don’t share that sentiment towards Josh. Not at all. My original point was that people here on this thread need to settle down and accept what Prince decided was best for him and the 3EG band at that time.

I think there can be room to appreciate Hannah’s drumming and what Prince saw in her and we can agree to separate their personal beliefs and be respectful of them.
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Reply #88 posted 04/28/20 6:27pm

IstenSzek

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lots of folks up in here throwing stones. damn people. why so angry?

just listen to their stories about prince and filter out what you do not
want to hear.



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #89 posted 04/28/20 6:37pm

lavendardrumma
chine

RJOrion said:

lavendardrummachine said:


Sure, there are code words and racism, but that's not on display here...and you're interjecting that struggle in here is no different than people interjecting their anti-religion feelings.

I'm not bending "the true meaning" of the word, I cut through the projection of racialist minutia with the challenge that you can't say there isn't a meaning of the word that doesn't fit what they described with the Bentley story.

He said to his wealthy celebrity boss "that's going to be mine". Who does that? How can you imply that's a racial trait to act like that, and criticism is based on his race? It's not. Neither was their internalized thoughts that he's the type who could have just handed them the keys permanently.



look here...dont even address me further...i really think youre trying to get the thread locked..i didnt "interject" any so-called struggle..i presented hardcore facts and real behaviors that are on display in this very thread...but you felt the need to address me when i didnt seek your response...then when i reply with facts and reality, you belittle it as "racialist minutia" and compare it erroneously to "anti-religion feelings"...for your sake (and the sake of the thread) give it up, because a few of you are showing your horns.


This tangent is off topic and should be deleted along with all the other baiting.



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