Honestly, never liked Black Sweat that much, but after re-discovering my appreciation for some of this latest material, i must say it definately sounds like he was trying to do something else and different with some of his jams. There is a lot of interesting tracks.

I would like a full album with dope beats and more minimalistic r&b sound.

TKO said:

Honestly, never liked Black Sweat that much, but after re-discovering my appreciation for some of this latest material, i must say it definately sounds like he was trying to do something else and different with some of his jams. There is a lot of interesting tracks.

I would like a full album with dope beats and more minimalistic r&b sound.

I wasn't able to get into Black Sweat either... even live Black Sweat didn't do it for me...

But Sticky Like Glue... wow... that's a jam!

TKO said:

Honestly, never liked Black Sweat that much, but after re-discovering my appreciation for some of this latest material, i must say it definately sounds like he was trying to do something else

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He was trying to copy The Neptunes cuz they had so many hits.

Both are good, but Sticky is something else.

BartVanHemelen said:

TKO said:

Honestly, never liked Black Sweat that much, but after re-discovering my appreciation for some of this latest material, i must say it definately sounds like he was trying to do something else

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He was trying to copy The Neptunes cuz they had so many hits.

Sonically? Yes. But it still had his signature sound if you know what i mean

TKO said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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He was trying to copy The Neptunes cuz they had so many hits.

Sonically? Yes. But it still had his signature sound if you know what i mean

Yes. He was "copying" their sound, but their sound was already a direct xerox of his own minimalist 80s electro-funk sound. I feel like this is why MPLSound is such a blatant throw-back as well; in 2009 radio sounded identical to that 80s synth/linn combo anyway.

He was trying to copy the Neptunes for sure but the Neptunes entire shtick is copying other people, and often Prince, so i'm hardly gonna hold it against him. I've always thought Black Sweat was a fantastic song, i'm always surprised how much people drag it on here, calling it a Kiss rip off and the like.

WhisperingDandelions said:

MIRvmn said:

I really like Sticky Like Glue but still can't get into Black Sweat

I much prefer the more organic feel of the Versace version.

jaawwnn said:

He was trying to copy the Neptunes for sure but the Neptunes entire shtick is copying other people, and often Prince, so i'm hardly gonna hold it against him.

OperatingThetan said:

Exactly. More of a reclaimation than anything else.

Bingo. I'm sure even Pharrell Williams and Chad Hugo would admit how indebted they are to Prince for their sound...

In fact, I believe Pharrell said exactly that:

https://www.youtube.com/w...s6N3XR5bMQ

"He was a huge inspiration. Many songs of mine.., um, are like the children, of like, his songs."

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WhisperingDandelions said:

jaawwnn said:

He was trying to copy the Neptunes for sure but the Neptunes entire shtick is copying other people, and often Prince, so i'm hardly gonna hold it against him.

OperatingThetan said:

Exactly. More of a reclaimation than anything else.

Bingo. I'm sure even Pharrell Williams and Chad Hugo would admit how indebted they are to Prince for their sound...

In fact, I believe Pharrell said exactly that:

https://www.youtube.com/w...s6N3XR5bMQ

"He was a huge inspiration. Many songs of mine.., um, are like the children, of like, his songs."

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Frontin' was supposedly "for Prince".

They've actually also said they wrote songs to be Prince songs, both in a "what would Prince do" way and a hoping to produce Prince, dream collab way. And in a bit of likely revisionism, Pharrel claimed songs they wrote for a potential Michael Jackson collab that totally sounds like they should have been MJ hits, were also originally supposed to be for Prince.

Put on Love from Night 3 of Montreux 2013 and try not to dance.