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Thread started 03/11/20 9:17am

CAL3

Ranking his '70s albums

My personal preference:

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1) Prince

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2) For You

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What say you?

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Reply #1 posted 03/11/20 9:32am

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1) The Rebels
2) For You
3) Prince

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Reply #2 posted 03/11/20 9:39am

CAL3

VaultCurator said:

1) The Rebels
2) For You
3) Prince

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Officially release, I forgot to specify as a rule.

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Reply #3 posted 03/11/20 10:05am

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There really isn't much to choose from now, is there? What's next? Lenny Kravitz' best 80s albums?
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Reply #4 posted 03/11/20 10:24am

CAL3

SantanaMaitreya said:

There really isn't much to choose from now, is there? What's next? Lenny Kravitz' best 80s albums?

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It's a quick post to rank them. Just do it.

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And my ranking of Lenny's '80s:

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1) Let Love Rule

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Reply #5 posted 03/11/20 10:26am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

There really isn't much to choose from now, is there? What's next? Lenny Kravitz' best 80s albums?

lol lol lol

Back on topic: "Prince" is 1.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #6 posted 03/11/20 10:37am

CAL3

funkaholic1972 said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

There really isn't much to choose from now, is there? What's next? Lenny Kravitz' best 80s albums?

lol lol lol

Back on topic: "Prince" is 1.

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You are correct!

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Reply #7 posted 03/11/20 12:36pm

RJOrion

1. For You
2. Prince
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Reply #8 posted 03/11/20 5:29pm

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Prince is the best.

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Reply #9 posted 03/11/20 5:34pm

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For You miles ahead of Prince. The production and nuance in the sound is exquisite, the density of it all is resplendent. The songs themselves are earnest, if maybe slightly underdeveloped.

Prince
is as by-the-numbers as it gets, his safest record of all time, the most cookie-cutter of basic disco grooves the kid could ever concoct. The Soccer Mom Experience.

[Edited 3/11/20 17:36pm]

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Reply #10 posted 03/12/20 4:10am

SquirrelMeat76

Strangely I prefer For You. Prince has the brilliant I Wanna Be Your Lover, but I don't love alot else on that album.

For You has the funk jam Just As Long As We're Together, and Crazy You which is such an underrated ballad. Another cool jam during I'm Yours. I Enjoy the funky Soft & Wet too.

So....For You!

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Reply #11 posted 03/12/20 7:52am

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1. Prince

2. For You

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Reply #12 posted 03/12/20 9:48am

CAL3

WhisperingDandelions said:

For You miles ahead of Prince. The production and nuance in the sound is exquisite, the density of it all is resplendent. The songs themselves are earnest, if maybe slightly underdeveloped.

Prince
is as by-the-numbers as it gets, his safest record of all time, the most cookie-cutter of basic disco grooves the kid could ever concoct. The Soccer Mom Experience.

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Nah, gotta call bullshit on that analysis.

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'Prince' represented a step forward in his artistic and songwriting development.

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Neither of the '70s albums are worth all that much on their own, but 'Prince' is a bridge between the tentative fumblings of 'For You's earnestness (as you did correctly put it), and the crystalizing of his sound on 'Dirty Mind.'

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Reply #13 posted 03/12/20 5:38pm

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CAL3 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

For You miles ahead of Prince. The production and nuance in the sound is exquisite, the density of it all is resplendent. The songs themselves are earnest, if maybe slightly underdeveloped.

Prince
is as by-the-numbers as it gets, his safest record of all time, the most cookie-cutter of basic disco grooves the kid could ever concoct. The Soccer Mom Experience.

[Edited 3/11/20 17:36pm]

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Nah, gotta call bullshit on that analysis.

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'Prince' represented a step forward in his artistic and songwriting development.

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Neither of the '70s albums are worth all that much on their own, but 'Prince' is a bridge between the tentative fumblings of 'For You's earnestness (as you did correctly put it), and the crystalizing of his sound on 'Dirty Mind.'

You're right.

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Reply #14 posted 03/13/20 2:49am

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CAL3 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

For You miles ahead of Prince. The production and nuance in the sound is exquisite, the density of it all is resplendent. The songs themselves are earnest, if maybe slightly underdeveloped.

Prince
is as by-the-numbers as it gets, his safest record of all time, the most cookie-cutter of basic disco grooves the kid could ever concoct. The Soccer Mom Experience.

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Nah, gotta call bullshit on that analysis.

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'Prince' represented a step forward in his artistic and songwriting development.

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Neither of the '70s albums are worth all that much on their own, but 'Prince' is a bridge between the tentative fumblings of 'For You's earnestness (as you did correctly put it), and the crystalizing of his sound on 'Dirty Mind.'

Songwriting, probably, sure, to compare red apples to reddish apples.

But artistic development... Artistic development? Step forward, you say? Artistically? Nothing on that record even hints at the envelope-pushing and sonic edge that would become his hallmark of trademarks on Dirty Mind... Hell "Soft & Wet" hints at this more than anything on Prince. Prince sounds nothing like a "bridge" artistically... It's as far from Dirty Mind as it gets... There's a reason people often confuse which of those 70s records came first, and it has nothing to do with one being self-titled.

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Reply #15 posted 03/13/20 4:21am

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Whispering Dandelions has a point, For You has a proper 70s LA-studio album lushness that he never revisited again. It's a grower of an album, Prince, Dirty Mind and beyond had to happen or he would have been lost but it's great to have it in the discography.

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Reply #16 posted 03/13/20 6:40am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

CAL3 said:

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Nah, gotta call bullshit on that analysis.

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'Prince' represented a step forward in his artistic and songwriting development.

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Neither of the '70s albums are worth all that much on their own, but 'Prince' is a bridge between the tentative fumblings of 'For You's earnestness (as you did correctly put it), and the crystalizing of his sound on 'Dirty Mind.'

Songwriting, probably, sure, to compare red apples to reddish apples.

But artistic development... Artistic development? Step forward, you say? Artistically? Nothing on that record even hints at the envelope-pushing and sonic edge that would become his hallmark of trademarks on Dirty Mind... Hell "Soft & Wet" hints at this more than anything on Prince. Prince sounds nothing like a "bridge" artistically... It's as far from Dirty Mind as it gets... There's a reason people often confuse which of those 70s records came first, and it has nothing to do with one being self-titled.

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Totally agree.

More than that: I'm by nature very upposed 'remakes/covers' in any sense, but if there's one, I'd like to have Prince done Soft and Wet again in his Parade-period. It would have stand as tall as Kiss; I consider them twins-songs.

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Reply #17 posted 03/13/20 3:35pm

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CAL3 said:



SantanaMaitreya said:


There really isn't much to choose from now, is there? What's next? Lenny Kravitz' best 80s albums?

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It's a quick post to rank them. Just do it.


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And my ranking of Lenny's '80s:


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1) Let Love Rule



lol lol lol
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Reply #18 posted 03/13/20 3:37pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:

There really isn't much to choose from now, is there? What's next? Lenny Kravitz' best 80s albums?

lol lol lol
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Reply #19 posted 03/13/20 4:57pm

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Lenny Kravitz music is bland and devoid of funk and soul of any kind... ive never even been around anyone who plays or played his music, or even requested it, or talked about it... its like if his ex wasnt Lisa Bonet, and his daughter wasnt zoey kravitz and if Prince wasnt allegedly his friend, he wouldnt even exist... not saying he's wack or anything, but his songs just dont grab the soul and stick to the consciousness
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Reply #20 posted 03/13/20 5:11pm

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RJOrion said:

Lenny Kravitz music is bland and devoid of funk and soul of any kind... ive never even been around anyone who plays or played his music, or even requested it, or talked about it... its like if his ex wasnt Lisa Bonet, and his daughter wasnt zoey kravitz and if Prince wasnt allegedly his friend, he wouldnt even exist... not saying he's wack or anything, but his songs just dont grab the soul and stick to the consciousness

Nah, he's whack, his music is even whacker. He's not fit to change Prince's guitar strings, much less be mentioned in the same artistic breath.

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Reply #21 posted 03/13/20 5:45pm

RJOrion

WhisperingDandelions said:



RJOrion said:


Lenny Kravitz music is bland and devoid of funk and soul of any kind... ive never even been around anyone who plays or played his music, or even requested it, or talked about it... its like if his ex wasnt Lisa Bonet, and his daughter wasnt zoey kravitz and if Prince wasnt allegedly his friend, he wouldnt even exist... not saying he's wack or anything, but his songs just dont grab the soul and stick to the consciousness

Nah, he's whack, his music is even whacker. He's not fit to change Prince's guitar strings, much less be mentioned in the same artistic breath.



LOL..i was trying to be nice, thats why i said "not saying hes wack", but i was damn sure thinking it..and i didnt want start no back & forth with the 2 or 3 fans he might actually have... but yeah you accurately summed it up...
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Reply #22 posted 03/13/20 6:52pm

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RJOrion said:

Lenny Kravitz music is bland and devoid of funk and soul of any kind... ive never even been around anyone who plays or played his music, or even requested it, or talked about it... its like if his ex wasnt Lisa Bonet, and his daughter wasnt zoey kravitz and if Prince wasnt allegedly his friend, he wouldnt even exist... not saying he's wack or anything, but his songs just dont grab the soul and stick to the consciousness



You've been listening to Lenny, but you're not hearing him. wink

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Reply #23 posted 03/14/20 3:01am

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Lenny Kravitz broke through at exactly the right moment: there was a bit of a Woodstock revival because it was 20 years ago and bands that were mixing rock and funk like the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Living Colour were on the rise. And Prince was slowly becoming less interesting. A lot of people, especially the ones who liked Prince's rockier side, turned to Lenny Kravitz. I bought his albums and saw him live a few times and his shows were good. His first concert in Paradiso in Amsterdam became legendary because people kept singing Let love rule on and on for about ten minutes after he had left the stage. This made those who had missed it, like me, all the more eager to see him. You can say whatever you want about Lenny's music, but he is a goood performer.
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Reply #24 posted 03/14/20 5:41am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

You can say whatever you want about Lenny's music, but he is a goood performer.

I thought the Music: Non-Prince forum revealed he lipsyncs like Britney.

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Reply #25 posted 03/15/20 9:03pm

CAL3

RJOrion said:

Lenny Kravitz music is bland and devoid of funk and soul of any kind... ive never even been around anyone who plays or played his music, or even requested it, or talked about it... its like if his ex wasnt Lisa Bonet, and his daughter wasnt zoey kravitz and if Prince wasnt allegedly his friend, he wouldnt even exist... not saying he's wack or anything, but his songs just dont grab the soul and stick to the consciousness

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Let Love Rule is a KILLER friggin’ album from tip to tail. There is passion dripping from the pores of that record. Not originality but just raw EMOTION wrenched from the very BASEMENT of Kravitz’s soul. While stylistically owing an obvious debt to many towering figures who went before - Kravitz’s debut seeps from every crevice with bona fide chutzpah and deeply felt raw POWER.
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Lenny puts it all out there on a truly memorable debut.
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Reply #26 posted 03/15/20 9:13pm

CAL3

WhisperingDandelions said:



CAL3 said:




WhisperingDandelions said:


For You miles ahead of Prince. The production and nuance in the sound is exquisite, the density of it all is resplendent. The songs themselves are earnest, if maybe slightly underdeveloped.

Prince
is as by-the-numbers as it gets, his safest record of all time, the most cookie-cutter of basic disco grooves the kid could ever concoct. The Soccer Mom Experience.


[Edited 3/11/20 17:36pm]



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Nah, gotta call bullshit on that analysis.


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'Prince' represented a step forward in his artistic and songwriting development.


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Neither of the '70s albums are worth all that much on their own, but 'Prince' is a bridge between the tentative fumblings of 'For You's earnestness (as you did correctly put it), and the crystalizing of his sound on 'Dirty Mind.'




Songwriting, probably, sure, to compare red apples to reddish apples.

But artistic development... Artistic development? Step forward, you say? Artistically? Nothing on that record even hints at the envelope-pushing and sonic edge that would become his hallmark of trademarks on Dirty Mind... Hell "Soft & Wet" hints at this more than anything on Prince. Prince sounds nothing like a "bridge" artistically... It's as far from Dirty Mind as it gets... There's a reason people often confuse which of those 70s records came first, and it has nothing to do with one being self-titled.

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You backed yourself up well - props. I may not entirely AGREE personally but you make a reasonable and thoughtful case and I truly appreciated reading it.
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Makes me think. Thank you.
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And for what it’s worth, let it be said that neither “For You” or “Prince” is a great album. I’ve never once confused which came first I must be clear. The songs on “For You” are Poopy Sales - every one of them. There are some strong songs on the second album. If he hadn’t gone further than these two, he’d have been a footnote for a strong single and a couple dance hits. “Bambi” tho... Holy Fucknut, Batman! With that one track, he reduces the entirety of “For You” was to ashes.
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Reply #27 posted 03/15/20 10:02pm

RJOrion

"poopy sales"?

LMAO! wtf is that?
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CAL3 said:

You backed yourself up well - props. I may not entirely AGREE personally but you make a reasonable and thoughtful case and I truly appreciated reading it. . Makes me think. Thank you. . And for what it’s worth, let it be said that neither “For You” or “Prince” is a great album. I’ve never once confused which came first I must be clear. The songs on “For You” are Poopy Sales - every one of them. There are some strong songs on the second album. If he hadn’t gone further than these two, he’d have been a footnote for a strong single and a couple dance hits. “Bambi” tho... Holy Fucknut, Batman! With that one track, he reduces the entirety of “For You” was to ashes.

"I'm Yours" is worth six "Bambi"s and slays the entire Prince record before the main verse even begins.

(thx on the props tho brohan, 'preche the back'n'forth as the world ends.)

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Reply #29 posted 03/20/20 5:17pm

Mikado

The self titled is one of the few moments in the first ten years of his career where he felt disposable. The first three songs on Prince could have been done by anyone, really - there's a very basic disco sensibility to it (case in point; when I first heard I Wanna Be Your Lover back in the day I thought it was Michael Jackson lol). For You isn't perfect but it does feel like Prince all the way through.

Sooo...


1. For You

2. Prince

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A certain kind of mellow.
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