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Thread started 03/03/20 9:24pm

AaronReturn200
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Why is Purple Rain presented in the album version rather than the single version on 4Ever?

Also contributes to the issue of Partyman (most likely the album version, not the radio edit starting from Camilie's first line) being excluded despite being "that other hit" from the Batman soundtrack. Purple Rain with the painfully long guitar solo at the end is the perfect album closer, as shown on The Hits 2 and the original Purple Rain OST but not anywhere else. The single version (I think) fades before the guitar solo so I think it could've worked on here better. The sole "official" unremastered release of this sole edit was the Crown Jewels CD promo, which is very hard to come across so it could've been in a similar quality if included.

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Reply #1 posted 03/04/20 12:24am

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I hate when the songs are edited.

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Reply #2 posted 03/04/20 1:16am

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I kind of prefer edits when we're talking compilations. I mean you're already "editing" down their overall oeuvre, "editing" down from their proper albums / original intent... at that point might as well edit as much as possible to fit maximum tracks possible. I figure if one wants the "full" versions, go with the "full" albums.

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Reply #3 posted 03/04/20 2:49am

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Because it's a bad compilation full of inconsistencies.

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Reply #4 posted 03/04/20 10:12am

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AaronReturn2005 said:

Also contributes to the issue of Partyman (most likely the album version, not the radio edit starting from Camilie's first line) being excluded despite being "that other hit" from the Batman soundtrack. Purple Rain with the painfully long guitar solo at the end is the perfect album closer, as shown on The Hits 2 and the original Purple Rain OST but not anywhere else. The single version (I think) fades before the guitar solo so I think it could've worked on here better. The sole "official" unremastered release of this sole edit was the Crown Jewels CD promo, which is very hard to come across so it could've been in a similar quality if included.


SInce when is "Purple Rain" a "painfully long guitar solo?" What the actual fuck?

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Reply #5 posted 03/04/20 10:42am

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TrivialPursuit said:

AaronReturn2005 said:

Also contributes to the issue of Partyman (most likely the album version, not the radio edit starting from Camilie's first line) being excluded despite being "that other hit" from the Batman soundtrack. Purple Rain with the painfully long guitar solo at the end is the perfect album closer, as shown on The Hits 2 and the original Purple Rain OST but not anywhere else. The single version (I think) fades before the guitar solo so I think it could've worked on here better. The sole "official" unremastered release of this sole edit was the Crown Jewels CD promo, which is very hard to come across so it could've been in a similar quality if included.


SInce when is "Purple Rain" a "painfully long guitar solo?" What the actual fuck?


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Reply #6 posted 03/04/20 11:03am

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"Purple Rain" is one of those songs that almost feels pointless without the guitar solo and ending. Not that the first half is bad, because the way the strings and vocal harmonies gradually come in is still beautiful, but it's all just buildup. Without the cathartic payoff of the solo and vocal hook, it's just a repetitive pop ballad.

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Reply #7 posted 03/04/20 11:12am

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OP's point that throwing in Purple Rain in the middle of a compilation makes for a weird listen is a good one though.

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Reply #8 posted 03/04/20 11:59am

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mbdtyler said:

"Purple Rain" is one of those songs that almost feels pointless without the guitar solo and ending. Not that the first half is bad, because the way the strings and vocal harmonies gradually come in is still beautiful, but it's all just buildup. Without the cathartic payoff of the solo and vocal hook, it's just a repetitive pop ballad.

It's a repetitive pop ballad even if he added another six guitar solos.

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Reply #9 posted 03/04/20 3:07pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

I kind of prefer edits when we're talking compilations. I mean you're already "editing" down their overall oeuvre, "editing" down from their proper albums / original intent... at that point might as well edit as much as possible to fit maximum tracks possible. I figure if one wants the "full" versions, go with the "full" albums.

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I agree with this. It also gets a little boring listening to the same version of a song over and over.

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Reply #10 posted 03/04/20 3:11pm

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Just researched and found out that disc 1 of 4Ever ends with Purple Rain. The Partyman exclusion is another story, but it's best to not have TMBGITW than anything it all cause despite people referring it as a Warner-era song, he released it on NPG Records and all. Also the lawsuit

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Reply #11 posted 03/05/20 2:01am

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AaronReturn2005 said:

Just researched and found out that disc 1 of 4Ever ends with Purple Rain. The Partyman exclusion is another story, but it's best to not have TMBGITW than anything it all cause despite people referring it as a Warner-era song, he released it on NPG Records and all. Also the lawsuit

LOL I fucking have the album and I forgot that, that's how often I play this album. Was getting it mixed up with the tracklist on The Very Best of Prince.



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Reply #12 posted 03/05/20 2:23am

darkroman

Marketing!

Since April 2016 it is the only Prince track that is used to market and sell his legacy!

Constantly we hear purple this and purple that! Even vinyl pressings are in [the wrong] bloomin' purple!

Including the longer version highlights it's gravitas.

However, Prince's music spanned FIVE decade, so it's time for people to get their heads out of 1984!


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Reply #13 posted 03/05/20 5:49pm

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I've always though the guitar solo is too low in the mix on the album version. Thus, if I had to choose between listening to the full album version and the album edit, I'd pick the edit.

If I want to hear the guitar solo, I'd pick a live version of Purple Rain from later in his career, where the guitar is loud in the mix and the solo is more fleshed out.



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Reply #14 posted 03/05/20 6:08pm

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lurker316 said:



I've always though the guitar solo is too low in the mix on the album version. Thus, if I had to choose between listening to the full album version and the album edit, I'd pick the edit.

If I want to hear the guitar solo, I'd pick a live version of Purple Rain from later in his career, where the guitar is loud in the mix and the solo is more fleshed out.



What is going on around here? Have people suddenly forgotten how to listen?

Suddenly Purple Rain is this flawed track that's a repetitive and badly mixed pop single?

Fucking hell. The album version of the song is included because it's at the end of the disc and it is the definitive version of the song. This is not rocket science. Why are people so fucking dumb?

Do people even have brains anymore?

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Reply #15 posted 03/05/20 7:13pm

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Rimshottbob said:

lurker316 said:



I've always though the guitar solo is too low in the mix on the album version. Thus, if I had to choose between listening to the full album version and the album edit, I'd pick the edit.

If I want to hear the guitar solo, I'd pick a live version of Purple Rain from later in his career, where the guitar is loud in the mix and the solo is more fleshed out.



What is going on around here? Have people suddenly forgotten how to listen?

Suddenly Purple Rain is this flawed track that's a repetitive and badly mixed pop single?

Fucking hell. The album version of the song is included because it's at the end of the disc and it is the definitive version of the song. This is not rocket science. Why are people so fucking dumb?

Do people even have brains anymore?

Edited several times because I was so incensed by people's fucking stupidity I forgot how to type.

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We're over "Purple Rain." You can have it. Long version, short version, half version, snippet, sample, fragment... Album version, single version, video version, edited, greatest hits, best-of, the very best-of. All yours.

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Reply #16 posted 03/05/20 7:16pm

Rimshottbob

WhisperingDandelions said:

Rimshottbob said:

What is going on around here? Have people suddenly forgotten how to listen?

Suddenly Purple Rain is this flawed track that's a repetitive and badly mixed pop single?

Fucking hell. The album version of the song is included because it's at the end of the disc and it is the definitive version of the song. This is not rocket science. Why are people so fucking dumb?

Do people even have brains anymore?

Edited several times because I was so incensed by people's fucking stupidity I forgot how to type.

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We're over "Purple Rain." You can have it. Long version, short version, half version, snippet, sample, fragment... Album version, single version, greatest hits, best-of, the very best of. All yours.

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Cool. Then give it to me and quit bitching.

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Reply #17 posted 03/05/20 7:18pm

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Rimshottbob said:

quit bitching.

What would you classify these last two post of yours as, exactly?

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Reply #18 posted 03/05/20 7:27pm

jjam

AaronReturn2005 said:

Purple Rain with the painfully long guitar solo at the end is the perfect album closer...

Put the crack pipe down.

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Reply #19 posted 03/05/20 8:23pm

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mbdtyler said:

"Purple Rain" is one of those songs that almost feels pointless without the guitar solo and ending. Not that the first half is bad, because the way the strings and vocal harmonies gradually come in is still beautiful, but it's all just buildup. Without the cathartic payoff of the solo and vocal hook, it's just a repetitive pop ballad.

I'm all for edits on compilations. But I'm in agreement with you on Purple Rain. It always needs to be heard in its full glory.

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Reply #20 posted 03/06/20 4:47pm

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Rimshottbob said:



lurker316 said:




I've always though the guitar solo is too low in the mix on the album version. Thus, if I had to choose between listening to the full album version and the album edit, I'd pick the edit.

If I want to hear the guitar solo, I'd pick a live version of Purple Rain from later in his career, where the guitar is loud in the mix and the solo is more fleshed out.







What is going on around here? Have people suddenly forgotten how to listen?



Suddenly Purple Rain is this flawed track that's a repetitive and badly mixed pop single?



Fucking hell. The album version of the song is included because it's at the end of the disc and it is the definitive version of the song. This is not rocket science. Why are people so fucking dumb?



Do people even have brains anymore?



Edited several times because I was so incensed by people's fucking stupidity I forgot how to type.



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Yikes. Aaron really got you feeling some type of way.
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Reply #21 posted 03/06/20 5:47pm

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the long ass solo and cringles after 4 and half mins... I take a dump and well think of chocolate logs going somewhere down the you know, that's cool after that oh Damn U... Ask Mr. toilet roll and he'll let know how he feels, I can't hold back, It's like having a hundred million little heart attacks, Damn U, Paper you're so fine, Damn this kooky wipe affair. Mr. toilet roll is depressed hand in glove... Slow Love take it easy, umm the man in the moon is smiling licking your dove

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Reply #22 posted 03/07/20 5:04am

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jaawwnn said:

Because it's a bad compilation full of inconsistencies.

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How dare you tell the truth so soon after starting this thread...

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Reply #23 posted 03/07/20 8:39pm

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Kobe said:

the long ass solo and cringles after 4 and half mins... I take a dump and well think of chocolate logs going somewhere down the you know, that's cool after that oh Damn U... Ask Mr. toilet roll and he'll let know how he feels, I can't hold back, It's like having a hundred million little heart attacks, Damn U, Paper you're so fine, Damn this kooky wipe affair. Mr. toilet roll is depressed hand in glove... Slow Love take it easy, umm the man in the moon is smiling licking your dove

NOOB

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Reply #24 posted 03/07/20 9:14pm

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AaronReturn2005 said:

The sole "official" unremastered release of this sole edit was the Crown Jewels CD promo, which is very hard to come across so it could've been in a similar quality if included.

The version on The Crown Jewels is the 7" single version. Definitely not exclusive to that compilation.

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #25 posted 03/07/20 10:32pm

Rimshottbob

WhisperingDandelions said:

Rimshottbob said:

quit bitching.

What would you classify these last two post of yours as, exactly?

lol lol lol

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Reply #26 posted 03/08/20 7:19am

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Don't know, but don't complain.

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Reply #27 posted 03/08/20 11:03am

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Rimshottbob said:

lurker316 said:



I've always though the guitar solo is too low in the mix on the album version. Thus, if I had to choose between listening to the full album version and the album edit, I'd pick the edit.

If I want to hear the guitar solo, I'd pick a live version of Purple Rain from later in his career, where the guitar is loud in the mix and the solo is more fleshed out.



What is going on around here? Have people suddenly forgotten how to listen?

Suddenly Purple Rain is this flawed track that's a repetitive and badly mixed pop single?

Fucking hell. The album version of the song is included because it's at the end of the disc and it is the definitive version of the song. This is not rocket science. Why are people so fucking dumb?

Do people even have brains anymore?

Edited several times because I was so incensed by people's fucking stupidity I forgot how to type.

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Rather than spending all that time editing and re-editing your post, you should have devoted a couple minutes to more closley reading mine. My post had nothing to do with whether the album version should have gone on the compilation. My post had nothing to do with whether or not the song is repetivite. My only comment is that the guitar is too low in the mix, thus I prefer live versions. With that in mind, directing your response at me made zero sense.


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Reply #28 posted 03/09/20 2:29pm

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This chat has gotten real stupid.

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Reply #29 posted 03/10/20 7:41am

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AaronReturn2005 said:

This chat has gotten real stupid.

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What would <insert_your_dictator_here> have thought about that remark?

What would they have done after that remark?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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