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Thread started 02/26/20 12:52pm

Urine

Rave un2 The Joy Fantastic vinyl reissue?

I was wondering what people here who got the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic reissue on vinyl thought of the pressing.

Some reviews on Amazon criticised it. Mostly complaining it was a noisy pressing.

I'm thinking of getting it but wondering if I should get the cd set instead.

I got Emancipation it that is great.
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Reply #1 posted 02/26/20 1:10pm

Rimshottbob

Urine said:

I was wondering what people here who got the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic reissue on vinyl thought of the pressing. Some reviews on Amazon criticised it. Mostly complaining it was a noisy pressing. I'm thinking of getting it but wondering if I should get the cd set instead. I got Emancipation it that is great.

I said on another thread that there should be a sticky on this...

I have all of the Sony represses from the last year or so. Without exception, they are all fantastic.

I also have the original vinyl pressing of Rave, and, aside from the fact that the original pressing doesn't include Prettyman, while the reissue does, the reissue sounds better than the original.

Also, of course, none of these vinyl pressings have the brickwalling that made all of the CDs damaged and basically unlistenable.

The vinyl pressings from Sony are the BEST way to hear these albums:

Musicology

3121

Planet Earth

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic

Emancipation

Chaos & Disorder

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Reply #2 posted 02/26/20 2:19pm

RJOrion

LMAO..

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Reply #3 posted 02/28/20 11:20am

jfenster

Rimshottbob said:

Urine said:

I was wondering what people here who got the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic reissue on vinyl thought of the pressing. Some reviews on Amazon criticised it. Mostly complaining it was a noisy pressing. I'm thinking of getting it but wondering if I should get the cd set instead. I got Emancipation it that is great.

I said on another thread that there should be a sticky on this...

I have all of the Sony represses from the last year or so. Without exception, they are all fantastic.

I also have the original vinyl pressing of Rave, and, aside from the fact that the original pressing doesn't include Prettyman, while the reissue does, the reissue sounds better than the original.

Also, of course, none of these vinyl pressings have the brickwalling that made all of the CDs damaged and basically unlistenable.

The vinyl pressings from Sony are the BEST way to hear these albums:

Musicology

3121

Planet Earth

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic

Emancipation

Chaos & Disorder

so u say if u were to record those sony lps on CD they would sound better than the released CDs??

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Reply #4 posted 02/29/20 12:18am

Romeoblu

I have the 1999 vinyl release of Rave and it sounds good. I didn't get the reissue because I had the 1999 release but have toyed with the idea just so I have Pretty Man.

I do think the Sony reissues sound great, but I don't think I'll notice a massive difference between the two Raves.

I do notice a small bit of silibance on the 1999 version.
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Reply #5 posted 02/29/20 10:10am

Rimshottbob

jfenster said:

Rimshottbob said:

I said on another thread that there should be a sticky on this...

I have all of the Sony represses from the last year or so. Without exception, they are all fantastic.

I also have the original vinyl pressing of Rave, and, aside from the fact that the original pressing doesn't include Prettyman, while the reissue does, the reissue sounds better than the original.

Also, of course, none of these vinyl pressings have the brickwalling that made all of the CDs damaged and basically unlistenable.

The vinyl pressings from Sony are the BEST way to hear these albums:

Musicology

3121

Planet Earth

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic

Emancipation

Chaos & Disorder

so u say if u were to record those sony lps on CD they would sound better than the released CDs??

Well, that's actually a complicated question..!

Essentially, if you were to rip the vinyl of one of these albums and burn it to a CD - assuming you kept everything lossless at every stage - I would say, yes. They would sound better than the CD.

On the CD mastering of these albums, the sound was actually DAMAGED. They released damaged product by brickwalling it. That's basically what brickwalling is - it pushes the limits of the audio to places it should never go, and actually damages the recording. These vinyl issues of the albums - in particular the ones that have never been issued on vinyl before, and that have now been mastered for vinyl - are the first time that these albums are being released in NON-DAMAGED way.

So in essence, yes, a vinyl copy ripped to CD losslessly would not be brickwalled, so in that sense, it would sound better than the CD issue.

I'm sure there are some more technically-minded people who will tell me I'm wrong, and that you can't do this completely losslessly... but there's my answer to the question.

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