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Has Prince ever spoke about if fame was worth the price? I am sure the money made dreams come true, but staying in his home town makes me think he would had like to be Joe Blow sometimes. I remember a story about a tour bus drive who ask Prince he didn’t he just fly? Prince response was I get sometime when no one wants anything from me. Plus there was many Scarface’s made to reach and stay a star. An awareness that people made have hidden agendas, and critics. What do you think. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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Probably like so many others, you strive for something you don't yet understand all the consequences that will come with it. I think he wanted to make all the music he wanted to, in a studio he owned so that could happen practically around the clock. Also, he wanted the world to hear his music, trying to put out positive messages to try to change attitudes about many things.
I truly don't think he was all that concerned with the actual $ all his productivity brought. If he was that concerned with the money aspect, perhaps he might have had a will, or had a Revocable Trust document drawn up. Just my opinion........... Good morning children...take a look out your window, the world is falling... | |
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Prince once told a Minneapolis reporter (Jim Walsh), "...i've been to the mountaintop, and there's nothing there..." | |
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GOLD. | |
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Not sure if I've ever heard him speak directly but the song Cause & Effect addresses it in some manner.
If had the chance to do it all again I wouldn't change a thing, except my next of kin If I could talk to myself back then right now RIP | |
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I'm sure Prince recognized the negative elements of fame...but I also get the sense that he greatly appreciated fame because it allowed him to create his own world and focus solely on music. IMO it was also a very wise decision to stay in Minnesota, as it helped him stay true to himself (In his own unique Prince way) | |
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I think Prince knows the plus and negative side. he did complain to Dez during 1999 tour they can't do the stuff like they did before such as hanging out and stuff and the isolation but at the same time the music is what help keep him focus and just went with the flow. He was very prepared for fame since day one as he was very fierce protective with his privacy until the end which it I am afraid not always help him when he needed help. | |
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LADIES N GENTLEMEN!!! "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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He also spoke/sung about it at one of the Indigo aftershows in London. I think it might even be on the Indigo Nights disc. [Edited 1/13/20 12:15pm] RIP | |
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I think I read somewhere that Wendy said Prince was immediately comfortable with fame...had been practicing for some time. Though, during his long career, it waxed and waned and that may have caused some anxiety. None of us regular folks can afford 'yes' men, though, and that is to our benefit in the long run.
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I don't think it ever bothered him to the extent it did other celebrities, especially towards the end of his life. I imagine a lot of that is down to the fact that he stayed in his hometown and didn't live full time in Los Angeles. He kept a lot of who he was and didn't feel the need to change or contort himself into something he wasn't which surely helped as well. A certain kind of mellow. | |
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Sung about it in songs like 'Don't Play Me' and 'My Name Is Prince' "I like to watch." | |
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I think some of ATWIAD dealt with fame. | |
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There's a Musicology acoustic number (Prince and the Band) where he says "whatever u can't do alone, it aint worth the fame" | |
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I believe his music answers that question explicity. [Edited 1/15/20 20:33pm] "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 | |
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I was listening to AOA today for the first time in a while. BREAKDOWN was breaking me down, such a glimpse into the man's soul. I can to the org to be in the community while feeling this close to him and found this post. So yeah - he sure did speak about it..
Listen to me closely as the story unfolds
Rest in peace, my friend, you're broken down no longer and free "..free to change your mind" | |
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[Edited 1/17/20 16:24pm] Life Matters | |
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sulls said: Sung about it in songs like 'Don't Play Me' and 'My Name Is Prince' The song My Name Is Prince is more about him declaring his talent as a musician and that he is still the funkiest. * He had several songs about the price he paid for fame, but I think one of the best is The Sacrifice of Victor. | |
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Nah, I think it may seem like he had the life he wanted on the surface, but I think he was lonely, especially toward the end of his life. Going to clubs and sitting in a roped off section alone is quite sad to me. I don't think he often had geniune experiences with people - as in, just being "down to earth" without the pretense or being guarded. I think he did love the fame and the adoration of a crowd, so keeping up the mystical "facade" was necessary. He seemed to lose any semblance of a regular personal life once Purple Rain hit. | |
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funny thing we all thought of a marticular song for this thread... well the song that came to me right away would be "Rich Friends"
In it he says
"Money cant buy happiness, but it'll pay for the search"
So right there is the answer to your question [Edited 1/25/20 4:00am] | |
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That's a good one. He had many songs that seemed to express the high price he paid for the fame. No doubt, based on songs like Reflection and Breakdown, by his later years he really understood some of the important things he lost along the way. | |
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Fame or anything associated with fame is ever worth the price. | |
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twisted sister---the price rush---limelight | |
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Big White Mansion | |
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And on the topic of songs where he told us about his view of fame, "Dream Factory" always comes to mind for me.
Hollyrock ain't all it seems (Lordy) Don't get too serious, it's just a dream Don't forget your fiends, they're all you've got (Lordy) Listen to the story of a man I am not Party all night, hanging out In the streets more than I be at home I take a pill to wipe away my doubts But a pill can't cure my being alone Vodka and 7 straight to my braibn Put me under false impressions, hide all my pain Somebody help me, I'm losing control
This is what it's like in the Dream Facory, oh! Good morning children...take a look out your window, the world is falling... | |
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Seahorsie said: And on the topic of songs where he told us about his view of fame, "Dream Factory" always comes to mind for me.
Hollyrock ain't all it seems (Lordy) Don't get too serious, it's just a dream Don't forget your fiends, they're all you've got (Lordy) Listen to the story of a man I am not Party all night, hanging out In the streets more than I be at home I take a pill to wipe away my doubts But a pill can't cure my being alone Vodka and 7 straight to my braibn Put me under false impressions, hide all my pain Somebody help me, I'm losing control
This is what it's like in the Dream Facory, oh! Dream Factory wasn’t Prince singing about himself though. It was written about Paul Peterson in retaliation for his abruptly leaving the camp to pursue his solo deal. The lyrics are written as if Paul is singing them - * “A man came up to me, smile in his eyes (Prince) He told me I was a saint (Saint Paul) So I'm quittin' my friends much to their surprise (Paul left) I can't live up to the picture that they paint Ah somebody help me, I'm losing control..” * I believe Paul had issues with drugs and or alcohol when he was out in LA. He’s mentioned he no longer drinks. * I think Prince’s songs about his own price paid for fame started with The Sacrifice of Victor, as that is around the time that the conflict with WB took off, and he had lost all of his associates from the 80’s. | |
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violetcrush said: Seahorsie said: And on the topic of songs where he told us about his view of fame, "Dream Factory" always comes to mind for me.
Hollyrock ain't all it seems (Lordy) Don't get too serious, it's just a dream Don't forget your fiends, they're all you've got (Lordy) Listen to the story of a man I am not Party all night, hanging out In the streets more than I be at home I take a pill to wipe away my doubts But a pill can't cure my being alone Vodka and 7 straight to my braibn Put me under false impressions, hide all my pain Somebody help me, I'm losing control
This is what it's like in the Dream Facory, oh! Dream Factory wasn’t Prince singing about himself though. It was written about Paul Peterson in retaliation for his abruptly leaving the camp to pursue his solo deal. The lyrics are written as if Paul is singing them - * “A man came up to me, smile in his eyes (Prince) He told me I was a saint (Saint Paul) So I'm quittin' my friends much to their surprise (Paul left) I can't live up to the picture that they paint Ah somebody help me, I'm losing control..” * I believe Paul had issues with drugs and or alcohol when he was out in LA. He’s mentioned he no longer drinks. * I think Prince’s songs about his own price paid for fame started with The Sacrifice of Victor, as that is around the time that the conflict with WB took off, and he had lost all of his associates from the 80’s. Did not know that, thanks!!! But still a sad commentary in song. Good morning children...take a look out your window, the world is falling... | |
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Seahorsie said: violetcrush said: Dream Factory wasn’t Prince singing about himself though. It was written about Paul Peterson in retaliation for his abruptly leaving the camp to pursue his solo deal. The lyrics are written as if Paul is singing them - * “A man came up to me, smile in his eyes (Prince) He told me I was a saint (Saint Paul) So I'm quittin' my friends much to their surprise (Paul left) I can't live up to the picture that they paint Ah somebody help me, I'm losing control..” * I believe Paul had issues with drugs and or alcohol when he was out in LA. He’s mentioned he no longer drinks. * I think Prince’s songs about his own price paid for fame started with The Sacrifice of Victor, as that is around the time that the conflict with WB took off, and he had lost all of his associates from the 80’s. Did not know that, thanks!!! But still a sad commentary in song. Yes, it is a sad story. Prince could be quite spiteful, as we know | |
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must i get on my knees and crawl.... must i have no image at all | |
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The lyrics are actually..."Must I become naked? No image at all? * I think The Question of U was a love song to a particular woman and not about his fame being worth the price - unless the "you" in the song is meant to be fame itself, and not referring to a person. * He usually played the song before/after Venus De Milo, Honest Man, or UTCM, and during the Nude tour he sang it with Electric Man while humping the stage as if he's having sex So, I think that song is tied to a relationship. | |
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