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Does anyone here happen to think Camille was Prince's worst alias? Yes, I know it's a charatcher, not a "voice" but however, I find much of the Camille stuff really awful due to the sort-of "chipmunk" voice he used (it's not a girl, it's actually a boy). Happy he didn't release that album, and I've always thought U Got The Look was overrated due to being a duet.
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Reply #1 posted 12/19/19 12:29am
ForceofNature |
I always liked it, just becuase it was odd and quirky and unique. I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way, to the point of coming up with a album based around that alter ego, even if that album got absorbed into a larger album. Shockadelica is one of my all time favs |
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Reply #2 posted 12/19/19 12:38am
TheEnglishGent |
ForceofNature said:
I always liked it, just becuase it was odd and quirky and unique. I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way, to the point of coming up with a album based around that alter ego, even if that album got absorbed into a larger album. Shockadelica is one of my all time favs
Bowie? RIP |
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Reply #3 posted 12/19/19 1:19am
ForceofNature |
TheEnglishGent said:
ForceofNature said:
I always liked it, just becuase it was odd and quirky and unique. I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way, to the point of coming up with a album based around that alter ego, even if that album got absorbed into a larger album. Shockadelica is one of my all time favs
Bowie?
Did Bowie ever have a female alter ego? That is a good point though, he definitely used characters to great effect |
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Reply #4 posted 12/19/19 2:20am
darkroman |
It is Prince heresy to even suggest such a thing.
The Camille character/voice is the quintessential element that defines Prince to literary everyone!
For years and for many years to come it is this caricature of Prince that will preceed any other representation of Prince - everything else will merely follow!
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Reply #5 posted 12/19/19 2:28am
BartVanHemelen |
ForceofNature said:
I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way
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Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
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Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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Reply #6 posted 12/19/19 3:30am
jaawwnn |
BartVanHemelen said:
ForceofNature said:
I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way
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Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
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Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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Indeed.
Srsly, AaronReturns has to win the award for consistently worst takes from a new org member 2019. |
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Reply #7 posted 12/19/19 3:51am
WhisperingDand elions
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I was obsessed with the Chipmunks growing up, so my future love of Camille was destiny.
Nowadays I jam the Chipmunks at correct speed, but I'll take it either way. "Alter ego" blah blah, whatever, but the pitch-shifting itself is fantastic. [Edited 12/19/19 3:53am] |
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Reply #8 posted 12/19/19 3:57am
DaveT |
BartVanHemelen said:
ForceofNature said:
I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way
.
Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
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Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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[Edited 12/19/19 2:29am]
I'd add Madonna/Dita to that list
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Reply #9 posted 12/19/19 4:54am
BartVanHemelen |
DaveT said:
BartVanHemelen said:
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Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
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Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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[Edited 12/19/19 2:29am]
I'd add Madonna/Dita to that list
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Wasn't she also "Esther" when she was reallly into kabbalah etc.? © Bart Van Hemelen
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Reply #10 posted 12/19/19 5:27am
WhisperingDand elions
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It's hard to tell because all these "alter egos" have almost identical personalities to the primary ego. |
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Reply #11 posted 12/19/19 5:29am
DaveT |
BartVanHemelen said:
DaveT said:
I'd add Madonna/Dita to that list
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Wasn't she also "Esther" when she was reallly into kabbalah etc.?
Indeed, but I don't recall her ever using that as a voice or role on any of her albums ... I might be wrong though ...
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Reply #12 posted 12/19/19 5:47am
djThunderfunk
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BartVanHemelen said:
ForceofNature said:
I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way
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Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
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Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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[Edited 12/19/19 2:29am]
George Clinton is enough. That's where Prince got it.
Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'... |
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Reply #14 posted 12/19/19 5:59am
OldFriends4Sal e |
WhisperingDandelions said:
It's hard to tell because all these "alter egos" have almost identical personalities to the primary ego.
Now that I think about it Camille could be some evolution of VagIna |
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Reply #15 posted 12/19/19 6:02am
OldFriends4Sal e |
DaveT said:
BartVanHemelen said:
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Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
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Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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[Edited 12/19/19 2:29am]
I'd add Madonna/Dita to that list
and she did it so well
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Reply #16 posted 12/19/19 7:16am
Genesia |
As you note, Camille is not an alias. Camille is an alter-ego.
I'm not sure what you mean by a character versus a voice. In this context, they're the same thing - and neither of them are aliases. Alexander Nevermind and Joey Coco (for example) are aliases - because they are simply names he used. Jamie Starr and Camille are alter-egos because you actually hear them. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. |
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Reply #17 posted 12/19/19 7:45am
jaawwnn |
AaronReturn2005 said:
I've always thought U Got The Look was overrated due to being a duet.
whut
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Reply #18 posted 12/19/19 10:17am
TrivialPursuit
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AaronReturn2005 said:
Yes, I know it's a charatcher, not a "voice" but however, I find much of the Camille stuff really awful due to the sort-of "chipmunk" voice he used (it's not a girl, it's actually a boy). Happy he didn't release that album, and I've always thought U Got The Look was overrated due to being a duet.
This is a unpopular opinion some people have here, including me.
Anyone who thinks "If I Was Your Girlfriend," "Housequake," or "Strange Relationship" is "really awful" has zero credibility when talking about Prince music. If you're happy Camille never came out, then you must hate Sign O The Times. That puts your credibility in the negative range. Were ya bitchin' when he covered his face with a scarf and called himself Tora Tora?
Mariah = Mimi
Beyonce = Sasha Fierce
Eminem = Slim Shady
George Clinton = Sir Nose DiVoid of Funk, Dr. Funkenstein, etc etc etc
Madonna = Dita
David Bowie = Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane
... seems like we're done here.
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Reply #19 posted 12/19/19 10:19am
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Reply #20 posted 12/19/19 10:20am
jaawwnn |
rdhull said:
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I stand by my earlier post. |
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Reply #22 posted 12/19/19 11:30am
Darshy |
Yep, that creating another persona, as with so many things, was definitely done best by Prince; those Camille song are just so cool. As for bringing in Eminem/ Slim Shady into this conversation, please don't; the worst rapper/excuse of a human being, ever. Even Vanilla Ice better! |
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Reply #23 posted 12/19/19 12:44pm
dannyd5050 |
I bet Camille will be released someday. I'm thinking like a SOTT box set extra. |
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Reply #24 posted 12/19/19 12:53pm
Genesia |
dannyd5050 said:
I bet Camille will be released someday. I'm thinking like a SOTT box set extra.
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Reply #25 posted 12/19/19 12:58pm
ForceofNature |
BartVanHemelen said:
ForceofNature said:
I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way
.
Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie.
.
Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please.
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I mean, could have been said in a way that isn't filled with passive aggressive silliness - but cool man. Quick question, I have seen you around, are you always so cranky? [Edited 12/19/19 12:59pm] |
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Reply #26 posted 12/19/19 1:36pm
AaronReturn200 5 |
TrivialPursuit said:
AaronReturn2005 said:
Yes, I know it's a charatcher, not a "voice" but however, I find much of the Camille stuff really awful due to the sort-of "chipmunk" voice he used (it's not a girl, it's actually a boy). Happy he didn't release that album, and I've always thought U Got The Look was overrated due to being a duet.
This is a unpopular opinion some people have here, including me.
Anyone who thinks "If I Was Your Girlfriend," "Housequake," or "Strange Relationship" is "really awful" has zero credibility when talking about Prince music. If you're happy Camille never came out, then you must hate Sign O The Times. That puts your credibility in the negative range. Were ya bitchin' when he covered his face with a scarf and called himself Tora Tora?
Mariah = Mimi
Beyonce = Sasha Fierce
Eminem = Slim Shady
George Clinton = Sir Nose DiVoid of Funk, Dr. Funkenstein, etc etc etc
Madonna = Dita
David Bowie = Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane
... seems like we're done here.
Haven't listened to SOTT in full yet, but def. skip the Camille tracks only. I'm a "hits" guy |
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Reply #27 posted 12/19/19 3:31pm
djThunderfunk
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AaronReturn2005 said:
TrivialPursuit said:
Anyone who thinks "If I Was Your Girlfriend," "Housequake," or "Strange Relationship" is "really awful" has zero credibility when talking about Prince music. If you're happy Camille never came out, then you must hate Sign O The Times. That puts your credibility in the negative range. Were ya bitchin' when he covered his face with a scarf and called himself Tora Tora?
Mariah = Mimi
Beyonce = Sasha Fierce
Eminem = Slim Shady
George Clinton = Sir Nose DiVoid of Funk, Dr. Funkenstein, etc etc etc
Madonna = Dita
David Bowie = Ziggy Stardust, Aladdin Sane
... seems like we're done here.
Haven't listened to SOTT in full yet, but def. skip the Camille tracks only. I'm a "hits" guy
What do you think about Erotic City? Bob George? Or $? Partyman? Scarlet Pussy?
[Edited 12/19/19 15:32pm] Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'... |
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Reply #28 posted 12/19/19 3:56pm
endiadj |
BartVanHemelen said:
ForceofNature said:
I can't think of anyone else who did the alter ego thing in such a way
. Gorillaz. Chris Gaines. Starchild/Dr Funkenstein/Mr Wiggles. Dukes Of Stratosphear. Luke The Drifter. Buster Pointdexter. Buckshot La Funke. Percy Thrillington. The Fireman. Slim Shady. Hank Wilson. Makaveli. Bonnie "Prince" Billy. Mimi. Sasha Fierce. Maddie. . Seriously, broaden your mind beyond Prince, please. . [Edited 12/19/19 2:29am] No thanks. |
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Reply #29 posted 12/19/19 5:09pm
OldFriends4Sal e |
djThunderfunk said:
AaronReturn2005 said:
Haven't listened to SOTT in full yet, but def. skip the Camille tracks only. I'm a "hits" guy
What do you think about Erotic City? Bob George? Or $? Partyman? Scarlet Pussy?
[Edited 12/19/19 15:32pm]
Housequake, If I Was Your Girlfriend, Strange Relationships |
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