It depends on the content en the frequency in which they offfer something. But if for example once a week something new and also possibility to see live videao's of concerts, I'm willing to max 25 euro per month

Doozer said:

I have never understood the "I don't pay for streaming - I want to own it" argument. My guess is well more than half of folks here have Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, YouTube TV, Apple TV+, Sling, Direct TV Now, even cable or similar TV service to watch shows when you want - but guess what, you don't OWN them. You stop paying monthly, and they disappear.

Yeah, and in most cases, I don't care to own the shows on those services...I watch them once and move on. If I DO like the show or movie enough, then I buy it to own. I don't want to hear all these great songs on a service like Spotify, knowing that if the company ever goes under, or some legal BS causes the material to be pulled, then I can no longer hear it. I still buy music as either digital files off stores like iTunes, or I buy physical copies.

1 song download per month ...15 songs on a cd at end of year

That's impossible to answer without knowing what it would include. But I already have three subscriptions (Criterion Channel, Prime and SXM), so I am not eager to add a fourth.

jfenster said:

1 song download per month ...15 songs on a cd at end of year

that would be like trying to squeeze an avalanche through a straw, I for one would like to hear most of the vault contents sometime before the year 3121. We need a bigger straw......

[Edited 12/9/19 22:07pm]

Hard pass.

TrevorAyer said:

come on - share your numbers - no waffle just a number!

When NPGMC was in effect, $100 a year was no big deal to me. We got a lot of stuff and it was a fun time.

In 2009 when Lotusflow3r.com came out, I had to really think long and hard about signing up for $77. My hours had been cut at my job, and just in general the whole economy was bleak. Against my better judgement, I signed up because of a fear of missing out on something. And regretted it. Basically that $77 was for one non-Target CD song and a shitty T-shirt that I immediately gave away. I felt taken when I could've just bought the CDs at Target for $11.98.

Would I sign up again . . . no. 10 years since Lotusflow3r.com, my money is a bit more important to me.

Se7en said:

When NPGMC was in effect, $100 a year was no big deal to me. We got a lot of stuff and it was a fun time.

In 2009 when Lotusflow3r.com came out, I had to really think long and hard about signing up for $77. My hours had been cut at my job, and just in general the whole economy was bleak. Against my better judgement, I signed up because of a fear of missing out on something. And regretted it. Basically that $77 was for one non-Target CD song and a shitty T-shirt that I immediately gave away. I felt taken when I could've just bought the CDs at Target for $11.98.

Would I sign up again . . . no. 10 years since Lotusflow3r.com, my money is a bit more important to me.

wow, was it a $100.00 per year...I'd forgotten how much it was!..1st of the month was always so exciting!..loved the video content.

Doozer said:

I have never understood the "I don't pay for streaming - I want to own it" argument. My guess is well more than half of folks here have Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, YouTube TV, Apple TV+, Sling, Direct TV Now, even cable or similar TV service to watch shows when you want - but guess what, you don't OWN them. You stop paying monthly, and they disappear.

In your bid to question why people have a certain perspective you've encapsulated why people have said perspective.

madison said:

matter fact since prince YouTube is releasing everything 1999 deluxe.. I probably will not buy nothing else ... just cherish my own vault collection...

The DVD wasn't posted.

[Edited 12/10/19 18:11pm]

$5 a month or $50 for a year... and that is only for as long as we get enough content...

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Se7en said:

When NPGMC was in effect, $100 a year was no big deal to me. We got a lot of stuff and it was a fun time.

In 2009 when Lotusflow3r.com came out, I had to really think long and hard about signing up for $77. My hours had been cut at my job, and just in general the whole economy was bleak. Against my better judgement, I signed up because of a fear of missing out on something. And regretted it. Basically that $77 was for one non-Target CD song and a shitty T-shirt that I immediately gave away. I felt taken when I could've just bought the CDs at Target for $11.98.

Would I sign up again . . . no. 10 years since Lotusflow3r.com, my money is a bit more important to me.

wow, was it a $100.00 per year...I'd forgotten how much it was!..1st of the month was always so exciting!..loved the video content.

It was pretty exciting at the time! Lots of content, and it felt like he was really invested in it.

If I'm not mistaken, it was $100, $100, $25 and then a long break before the LF $77.

EmmaMcG said:

My main issue with a potential streaming service is that, let's say you're spending $100 per year on access to The Vault. Then, after 3 or 4 years, the Estate decide that it's not bringing in enough profit or whatever the reason is, and they shut it down. You're left in a situation where you're after spending $300 - $400 and you have NOTHING to show for it. You can't listen to those songs anymore. Now, before someone says "But what about Netflix", it's a completely different thing. Netflix is an alternative to regular television, which, unlike albums on CDs, you don't have repeated access to traditional programming on TV. Also, you're more likely to listen to an album more times than you'd watch a specific TV show or movie. So it's pointless to compare streaming movies or TV shows on Netflix and streaming music. It's an entirely different thing. If it's unfeasible for the Estate to keep releasing vault recordings on CD or vinyl, then I'll happily pay for downloads. I won't be happy about it but physical media is declining rapidly so I understand the need for change. But I'd never pay for a music streaming service just like I'd never pay to listen to the radio.

I've never paid for Spotify, but I do occasionally get gift cards for it (birthday, Christmas, etc.) and it's a nice thing to have.

Having said that, the 1999 Super Deluxe 5CD+DVD is on my Christmas list. Why do I need the physical copy when I can get it all (sans the DVD) on Spotify or even YouTube? Because, like you said, it could all go away overnight. And with Prince's history of doing just that, I at least need to have digital copies on my harddrive, if not the actual physical release.

Also - and call me old school - I like to be unplugged from streaming as much as possible. My car has a USB thumb drive that has my entire Prince collection on it.

Another vote for downloading. I want to have the songs forever.

On the other hand, I would pay 5 euro a month for a vault streaming option (if I could not buy/download the songs).

Guardians of Paisley Park - Annual membership/sponsorship of $31.21, one Double CD a year with option to buy exclusive vault content.

That will do me.

thedoorkeeper said:

4 a GUARANTEED MINDBLOWING CD delivered every month I'd pay $15 to $20. 4 GUARANTEED MINDBLOWING downloads every month I'd pay $10.

Sounds about right. I am oldschool, and just like the physical product. Sat in my room for hours in the 70's and poured over all details on album covers...I admit this.

Seahorsie said:

thedoorkeeper said:

4 a GUARANTEED MINDBLOWING CD delivered every month I'd pay $15 to $20. 4 GUARANTEED MINDBLOWING downloads every month I'd pay $10.

Sounds about right. I am oldschool, and just like the physical product. Sat in my room for hours in the 70's and poured over all details on album covers...I admit this.

and how r they supposed to know whats "mindblowing"????

williamb610 said:

I don't STREAM anything! If it's download to own, I'll pay $1 a track or $10 per album TO OWN!

Streaming is not the wave of the future, Prince Estate. People still want to own things!

No they don't. I serously dont know anyone who still buys music. Yes, maybe my 63 year old coworker. There are growning up whole generations of people that never bought music.

TrevorAyer said:

I’d pay for a new 10 song cd of vault every month happily ... or a live disk

I have 100s of CDs and almost 1000 vinyls collecting dust. It would hurt too much to bin them (maybe I should read this book of the Japanese cleaning lady ), but in all honestly - I have high-res streaming connected to my stereo - I hardly ever listen to physical copies anymore...

So yes, I would love to have a streaming service - but ideally it would be in Tidal, Apple or one of the other services, so that it can be streamed straight to the stereo via my streaming player, I have no desire to connect a computer to my stereo.

Ah, yes, I would pay 10 Euro per month, but then would expect a vast amount of stuff...outtakes, live recordings, all released stuff, ideally also video streaming...

I think $7.77/monthly is the way to go.

homesquid said:

EmmaMcG said:

Zero. I don't pay for Spotify or Tidal so I certainly wouldn't be paying for a music streaming service with just one artist on it. If they do something like that, I'll just illegally download the music I want. However, if they were to make his vault recordings available for sale, then I'd be willing to buy them providing they are reasonably priced.

And you don't feel even a tinge of guilt for your illegal downloading? Are you entitled to that music? You seem to brag about it. It's a shitty thing to do. This behavior has put countless record stores, labels, artists, etc..out of business. I'm not trying to sound righteous here. I've done my share of illegal downloading...but I'm not actually proud of it.

Glass houses

kingricefan said:

^^^ Illegal downloading of music/video content is stealing if the said merchandise is available legally for purchase. If the artist isn't receiving monetary compensation for it then it's thievery. The artist WORKED on those creations as it was their job/calling to do so. What's the difference between an illegal download and walking into a museum, taking a painting off of the wall and walking out with it tucked under your jacket?

The difference is that downloading the music would still allow every single person on this earth to aquire, listen to and, if they so chose to, buy the music. The painting on the other hand, would be gone, and nobody would be able to see it, admire it, or buy it if they wanted to. Very big difference

[Edited 12/13/19 17:05pm]

$0

EmmaMcG said:

My main issue with a potential streaming service is that, let's say you're spending $100 per year on access to The Vault. Then, after 3 or 4 years, the Estate decide that it's not bringing in enough profit or whatever the reason is, and they shut it down. You're left in a situation where you're after spending $300 - $400 and you have NOTHING to show for it. You can't listen to those songs anymore. Now, before someone says "But what about Netflix", it's a completely different thing. Netflix is an alternative to regular television, which, unlike albums on CDs, you don't have repeated access to traditional programming on TV. Also, you're more likely to listen to an album more times than you'd watch a specific TV show or movie. So it's pointless to compare streaming movies or TV shows on Netflix and streaming music. It's an entirely different thing. If it's unfeasible for the Estate to keep releasing vault recordings on CD or vinyl, then I'll happily pay for downloads. I won't be happy about it but physical media is declining rapidly so I understand the need for change. But I'd never pay for a music streaming service just like I'd never pay to listen to the radio.

Damn you made some good points.

That is why I prefer the physicals I pay once and play over and over....

Personally the estate should continue to release songs on CD or whatever due to the fact they are still making decent sales off of the recent releases and over 95 percent of sales came from physical media with the 1999 deluxe per Rolling Stones mag. But you are right eventually the estate might consider to offer downloads or streaming if the CD sales decline. And also I agree that I would rather pay for downloads if must than streaming because at least I can still play it over and over just as well.

[Edited 12/15/19 22:33pm]