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Thread started 12/03/19 4:12pm

pdiddy2011

Where are the aftershows? (I hope the Estate knows we would LOVE to add them to our collection!)

I know there is a lot of full concert footage around, but where are some of these famous aftershows?

I find it hard to believe that quite a few of them didn't get taped. One that springs to mind is the "One Nite Alone - It Ain't Ova" aftershow.

There is no doubt in my mind that Prince and the team video'd that one - among others.

Does the estate think there isn't a market for the aftershows?

(As an aside, I really find it difficult to digest that Prince was so tech forward sometimes, but seemingly so nonchalant about preservation. It would seem to me he would have been one of the first to start digitizing for preservation sake, considering the way he jumped on the internet.)

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Reply #1 posted 12/04/19 3:53am

IstenSzek

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we're still in the early 80s with the releases from the estate.

regular aftershows wasn't a thing until the late mid 80s, so that's the reason.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 12/04/19 6:59am

TheEnglishGent

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pdiddy2011 said:

I know there is a lot of full concert footage around, but where are some of these famous aftershows?

I find it hard to believe that quite a few of them didn't get taped. One that springs to mind is the "One Nite Alone - It Ain't Ova" aftershow.

There is no doubt in my mind that Prince and the team video'd that one - among others.

Does the estate think there isn't a market for the aftershows?

(As an aside, I really find it difficult to digest that Prince was so tech forward sometimes, but seemingly so nonchalant about preservation. It would seem to me he would have been one of the first to start digitizing for preservation sake, considering the way he jumped on the internet.)


Princevault says that the It ain't ova cd was compiled from 3 different aftershows, so all 3 would have to have been taped to release that 'show'.

https://princevault.com/i...n%27t_Over

RIP sad
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Reply #3 posted 12/04/19 10:31am

coldasice

Of all the periods for an Aftershow...93 would be my pick.
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Reply #4 posted 12/04/19 1:01pm

jstar69

Give me an 88 aftershow please
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Reply #5 posted 12/04/19 1:45pm

MIInsane

jstar69 said:

Give me an 88 aftershow please

Since we already have "Small Club" in amazing quality, I'd much prefer an aftershow from '87.

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Reply #6 posted 12/04/19 1:47pm

TheEnglishGent

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I want a box set of the London 2007 after shows please.
RIP sad
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Reply #7 posted 12/04/19 2:01pm

TrcikyChristop
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MIInsane said:

jstar69 said:

Give me an 88 aftershow please

Since we already have "Small Club" in amazing quality, I'd much prefer an aftershow from '87.

Definitely "Small Cbub" on video, especially since there's photographic evidence of it being professionally filmed in good quality.

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Reply #8 posted 12/04/19 3:38pm

Farfunknugin

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TheEnglishGent said:



pdiddy2011 said:


I know there is a lot of full concert footage around, but where are some of these famous aftershows?

I find it hard to believe that quite a few of them didn't get taped. One that springs to mind is the "One Nite Alone - It Ain't Ova" aftershow.

There is no doubt in my mind that Prince and the team video'd that one - among others.

Does the estate think there isn't a market for the aftershows

(As an aside, I really find it difficult to digest that Prince was so tech forward sometimes, but seemingly so nonchalant about preservation. It would seem to me he would have been one of the first to start digitizing for preservation sake, considering the way he jumped on the internet.)




Princevault says that the It ain't ova cd was compiled from 3 different aftershows, so all 3 would have to have been taped to release that 'show'.

https://princevault.com/i...n%27t_Over



I was at the taping of the BODP at HOB from 4)02 & believe me if theres video of that show it needs to see the light of day. Just put em up online & call it a day..
[Edited 12/4/19 15:43pm]
[Edited 12/4/19 16:02pm]
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Reply #9 posted 12/04/19 4:13pm

kewlschool

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I'll settle for The official shows being released first! Parade/Lovesexy/Nude/Diamonds and Pearls/ Symbol tours

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #10 posted 12/05/19 2:20am

JorisE73

TrcikyChristopher said:

MIInsane said:

Since we already have "Small Club" in amazing quality, I'd much prefer an aftershow from '87.

Definitely "Small Cbub" on video, especially since there's photographic evidence of it being professionally filmed in good quality.


It wasn't, Prince's film crew that was documenting the tour was in Amsterdam during the aftershow at 't Paard van Troje and the only camera rolling that night was a venue camera pointing at the stage and the tape was eventually taped over but it it said only two copies exist.
Teh Dutch filmcrew that was there earlier in the evening for some nightlife documentary had to leave or if they wanted to stay they had to stash the cameras.

[Edited 12/5/19 2:22am]

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Reply #11 posted 12/05/19 3:20am

love2thenines2
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The 1st AV. 7 June 84 has been filmed pro...the master is in the Vault but i heard that a copied version is circulating among Collectors (Big ones)

razz razz razz

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Reply #12 posted 12/05/19 8:31am

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JorisE73 said:



TrcikyChristopher said:




MIInsane said:




Since we already have "Small Club" in amazing quality, I'd much prefer an aftershow from '87.



Definitely "Small Cbub" on video, especially since there's photographic evidence of it being professionally filmed in good quality.




It wasn't, Prince's film crew that was documenting the tour was in Amsterdam during the aftershow at 't Paard van Troje and the only camera rolling that night was a venue camera pointing at the stage and the tape was eventually taped over but it it said only two copies exist.
Teh Dutch filmcrew that was there earlier in the evening for some nightlife documentary had to leave or if they wanted to stay they had to stash the cameras.

[Edited 12/5/19 2:22am]



First time I hear this story. So the tape was used again (which seems hard to believe) but before that happened 2 copies were made? So if this is true where are these? Who is sitting on this treasure?
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Reply #13 posted 12/06/19 12:24am

JorisE73

SuperHero said:

JorisE73 said:


It wasn't, Prince's film crew that was documenting the tour was in Amsterdam during the aftershow at 't Paard van Troje and the only camera rolling that night was a venue camera pointing at the stage and the tape was eventually taped over but it it said only two copies exist.
Teh Dutch filmcrew that was there earlier in the evening for some nightlife documentary had to leave or if they wanted to stay they had to stash the cameras.

[Edited 12/5/19 2:22am]

First time I hear this story. So the tape was used again (which seems hard to believe) but before that happened 2 copies were made? So if this is true where are these? Who is sitting on this treasure?


Noty hard to believe at all becuase this is pretty standard practice for small venues as 't Paard used to be. When I worked at a small poppodium in Tilburg 25 years ago we did the same, we taped shows of mostly local and dutch small bands and then the next day we copied the shows and gave them to the band that played and reused the tape becuase those tapes were of much higher quality so could be reused for years.

One copy was last reported to be collecting dust in some attic and was later used to compile the best version with the other copy and those RAW files were later transferred over the years to VCD/DVD/MKV? and the person posted this info on a.m.p back in the day and showed samples to a couple of hardcore traders years ago who were on HouseQuake/MoQuake who also reported on it which annoyed the person who has it lol Some say the tapes were destroyed after the transfer so those RAW files would be great to have.

It would be great if The Estate would contact all these venues and people who have tapes like these to collect them and release them.

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Reply #14 posted 12/07/19 4:39am

herb4

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Dying for a definitive aftershow collection - or a live collection in general.

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Reply #15 posted 12/07/19 6:51am

LoveGalore

JorisE73 said:



SuperHero said:


JorisE73 said:



It wasn't, Prince's film crew that was documenting the tour was in Amsterdam during the aftershow at 't Paard van Troje and the only camera rolling that night was a venue camera pointing at the stage and the tape was eventually taped over but it it said only two copies exist.
Teh Dutch filmcrew that was there earlier in the evening for some nightlife documentary had to leave or if they wanted to stay they had to stash the cameras.


[Edited 12/5/19 2:22am]



First time I hear this story. So the tape was used again (which seems hard to believe) but before that happened 2 copies were made? So if this is true where are these? Who is sitting on this treasure?


Noty hard to believe at all becuase this is pretty standard practice for small venues as 't Paard used to be. When I worked at a small poppodium in Tilburg 25 years ago we did the same, we taped shows of mostly local and dutch small bands and then the next day we copied the shows and gave them to the band that played and reused the tape becuase those tapes were of much higher quality so could be reused for years.


One copy was last reported to be collecting dust in some attic and was later used to compile the best version with the other copy and those RAW files were later transferred over the years to VCD/DVD/MKV? and the person posted this info on a.m.p back in the day and showed samples to a couple of hardcore traders years ago who were on HouseQuake/MoQuake who also reported on it which annoyed the person who has it lol Some say the tapes were destroyed after the transfer so those RAW files would be great to have.


It would be great if The Estate would contact all these venues and people who have tapes like these to collect them and release them.



How would the estate know who owns a random after show video?
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Reply #16 posted 12/07/19 11:13am

jfenster

love2thenines2003 said:

The 1st AV. 7 June 84 has been filmed pro...the master is in the Vault but i heard that a copied version is circulating among Collectors (Big ones)

razz razz razz

been in their hands for decades

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Reply #17 posted 12/09/19 12:00am

JorisE73

LoveGalore said:

JorisE73 said:


Noty hard to believe at all becuase this is pretty standard practice for small venues as 't Paard used to be. When I worked at a small poppodium in Tilburg 25 years ago we did the same, we taped shows of mostly local and dutch small bands and then the next day we copied the shows and gave them to the band that played and reused the tape becuase those tapes were of much higher quality so could be reused for years.

One copy was last reported to be collecting dust in some attic and was later used to compile the best version with the other copy and those RAW files were later transferred over the years to VCD/DVD/MKV? and the person posted this info on a.m.p back in the day and showed samples to a couple of hardcore traders years ago who were on HouseQuake/MoQuake who also reported on it which annoyed the person who has it lol Some say the tapes were destroyed after the transfer so those RAW files would be great to have.

It would be great if The Estate would contact all these venues and people who have tapes like these to collect them and release them.

How would the estate know who owns a random after show video?


They could try to contact the venues and ask if they recorded some show he did whenever when they don't have it in the vault or maybe know who might have a copy if the venue don't have it themselves.

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