i know that except Private Joy and 777 9311 guitar solo Prince didnt use whammy bar.

he didnt use it until 2000

but listen to Joint 2 Joint guitar solo

he is clearly using one

also some tracks on 1999 and Lovesexy u can hear whammy,though Lovesexy can be Miko

thebanishedone said:

i know that except Private Joy and 777 9311 guitar solo Prince didnt use whammy bar.

he didnt use it until 2000

but listen to Joint 2 Joint guitar solo

he is clearly using one

also some tracks on 1999 and Lovesexy u can hear whammy,though Lovesexy can be Miko

I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002 as he had them fitted to a few of his guitars while in Japan for ONA.. he then used them for years until eventually dropping them again

FunkyStrange said:

thebanishedone said:

i know that except Private Joy and 777 9311 guitar solo Prince didnt use whammy bar.

he didnt use it until 2000

but listen to Joint 2 Joint guitar solo

he is clearly using one

also some tracks on 1999 and Lovesexy u can hear whammy,though Lovesexy can be Miko

I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002 as he had them fitted to a few of his guitars while in Japan for ONA.. he then used them for years until eventually dropping them again

actuall he had whammy bar on his guitar starting with year 2000.

he incorporated it on his symbol habibi guitar first

thebanishedone said:

FunkyStrange said:

I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002 as he had them fitted to a few of his guitars while in Japan for ONA.. he then used them for years until eventually dropping them again

actuall he had whammy bar on his guitar starting with year 2000.

he incorporated it on his symbol habibi guitar first

anything to back that up ? I dont recall hearing any evidence of it until Japan ONA but i'd have to go back and listen to be sure..

Also I can't recall a single picture of a whammy bar pre-Nov 2002 - got any to show me?

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FunkyStrange said:

thebanishedone said:

actuall he had whammy bar on his guitar starting with year 2000.

he incorporated it on his symbol habibi guitar first

anything to back that up ? I dont recall hearing any evidence of it until Japan ONA but i'd have to go back and listen to be sure..

Also I can't recall a single picture of a whammy bar pre-Nov 2002 - got any to show me?

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so u didnt hear whammy bar on guitar solos on Fmily Name? cuz there is whammy on every single solo even studio version.

Bambi 2001 celebration he used whammy bar also.

thebanishedone said:

FunkyStrange said:

anything to back that up ? I dont recall hearing any evidence of it until Japan ONA but i'd have to go back and listen to be sure..

Also I can't recall a single picture of a whammy bar pre-Nov 2002 - got any to show me?

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so u didnt hear whammy bar on guitar solos on Fmily Name? cuz there is whammy on every single solo even studio version.

Bambi 2001 celebration he used whammy bar also.

I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.

lurker316 said:

thebanishedone said:

so u didnt hear whammy bar on guitar solos on Fmily Name? cuz there is whammy on every single solo even studio version.

Bambi 2001 celebration he used whammy bar also.

I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.

Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars

thebanishedone said:

lurker316 said:

I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.

Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars

Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.

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lurker316 said:

thebanishedone said:

Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars

Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.

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[Edited 11/16/19 13i dont know how to post picture here but open this link you will see photo of Prince with habibi guitar with whammy bar.thats from 2001 also u can find prince playing Bambi seging at the end of Family Name on 2001 celebration so here is the link with picture from 2001 https://radiomilwaukee.or...rs-prince/

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https://uploadstars.com/v...1B9MX1D3KB

heres a link Prince playing Bambi 2001 you can c and hear whammy bar work

lurker316 said:

coldasice said:

lurker316 said:

Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.

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Nope just play and own the pedal. Google digitech Whammy pedal. It’s very easy to tell the difference. Orgasm though is definitely a bar. I don’t know if your familiar with Tom Morello, but he practically made his career off using that pedal. Prince did have one attached, but it’s not used in that song. Joint to joint is definitely the pedal and maybe some studio volume trickery

Joint 2 Joint is pedal ok but u have seen Bambi video from 2001? u can see him using whammy bar a lot during that solo.

he def started using whammy from 2001 to the end of 2012

i really dont understand you guys. in this video

https://uploadstars.com/v...1B9MX1D3KB

you can see Prince doing dive bombs with whammy bar in 2001 and you still dont believe that Prince used whammy bar in 2001

Remember the track Habibi Machine Gun? well on the day that single came out showed up

a picture of Habibi guitar and it had for the first time whAmmy bar attached on his guitar.

Lurker said that Prince didnt use whammy until nov 2002

what Lurker got wrong is that Prince started using floyd rose equiped fender strat guitars when he bought strat in Japan 2002

but of course Prince had strats since day 1 of his career but didnt use them live until 2003

thebanishedone said:

thebanishedone said:

coldasice said:

thebanishedone said:

Joint 2 Joint is pedal ok but u have seen Bambi video from 2001? u can see him using whammy bar a lot during that solo.

he def started using whammy from 2001 to the end of 2012

I agree, but the version of Joy is a whammy pedal.

What are you talking about? you do know that Joy in Rep 2002 from One Night Alone aftershow is circulating on video and you can see Prince reaching for whammy bar numerous times.

it def aint whammy pedal

thebanishedone said:

i really dont understand you guys. in this video

https://uploadstars.com/v...1B9MX1D3KB

you can see Prince doing dive bombs with whammy bar in 2001 and you still dont believe that Prince used whammy bar in 2001

Remember the track Habibi Machine Gun? well on the day that single came out showed up

a picture of Habibi guitar and it had for the first time whAmmy bar attached on his guitar.

Lurker said that Prince didnt use whammy until nov 2002

what Lurker got wrong is that Prince started using floyd rose equiped fender strat guitars when he bought strat in Japan 2002

but of course Prince had strats since day 1 of his career but didnt use them live until 2003

1.) I've never expressed an opinion on when Prince started using a whammy bar. I think you confused me with @FunkyStrange. No big deal. Just pointing it out.

2.) @FunkyStrange didn't claim that Prince *never* used a whammy bar prior to 2002. He agreed that Prince may used one occassionally at an earlier date. He said that Prince didn't use a whammy *regularly* until 2002. His exact words (as quoted from above): "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

Again, I have no opinion on this. I'm just pointing out that you're mischaractering @FunkyStrange's argument.

lurker316 said:

thebanishedone said:

i really dont understand you guys. in this video

https://uploadstars.com/v...1B9MX1D3KB

you can see Prince doing dive bombs with whammy bar in 2001 and you still dont believe that Prince used whammy bar in 2001

Remember the track Habibi Machine Gun? well on the day that single came out showed up

a picture of Habibi guitar and it had for the first time whAmmy bar attached on his guitar.

Lurker said that Prince didnt use whammy until nov 2002

what Lurker got wrong is that Prince started using floyd rose equiped fender strat guitars when he bought strat in Japan 2002

but of course Prince had strats since day 1 of his career but didnt use them live until 2003

1.) I've never expressed an opinion on when Prince started using a whammy bar. I think you confused me with @FunkyStrange. No big deal. Just pointing it out.

2.) @FunkyStrange didn't claim that Prince *never* used a whammy bar prior to 2002. He agreed that Prince may used one occassionally at an earlier date. He said that Prince didn't use a whammy *regularly* until 2002. His exact words (as quoted from above): "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

Again, I have no opinion on this. I'm just pointing out that you're mischaractering @FunkyStrange's argument.

sorry 4 confusing u with Funky Strange but why u take nov2002 as a starting point? celebration 2002 is full of whammy bar work and that was in june 2002.on 2001 concerts if he didnt play hohner he play habibi guitar with whammy bar

Jesus Christ, this is why I barely post here anymore

Can people not comprehend basic English anymore?

What a waste of time.

thebanishedone said:

he used whammy bar on Cinnamon Girl also