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Thread started 11/07/19 6:51am

IstenSzek

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"The Truth" - album appreciation. (any new info come out recently?)



listening to this again today, this time on spotify. it's been a while since i let it play
from start to finish. once again i'm delighted with the whole thing. it's such a good,
solid album and it's so 'unique' in his catalogue. at least, it was until he decided to
release a 'sister album' in "one nite alone...piano and voice". (which i also like a lot
by the way).

i can only imagine what kind of joy i'd feel if there were more albums like this in the
vault, tucked away, only waiting to be discovered and released in the future.

as much as i love the whole 80s catalogue (hopefully) being remastered, reissued
and rereleased with lots of bonus material, i'm also absolutely parched for more of
the post warners vault music.

on that note, with all the recent interviews, either on youtube, in podcasts or even
in printed media, i thought perhaps some new information about "The Truth" had
come to light and i might have missed it.

did anyone talk about it in the past few years and did they shed any new light on
the recording of it, or on possible other tracks recorded during these sessions?

anywho, if nothing else, just give this one another spin, even if you didn't like it
the first time round. it deserves another bit of your attention nod

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #1 posted 11/07/19 7:08am

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I've always loved it and listen to it quite regularly.

I'm sure HM Buff made some comments on it in his recent interviews but I can't recall what..

If this got 'a proper release' the critics would have loved it.

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Reply #2 posted 11/07/19 7:21am

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I've always loved it and listen to it quite regularly.

I'm sure HM Buff made some comments on it in his recent interviews but I can't recall what..

If this got 'a proper release' the critics would have loved it.

LOVE IT. One issue - that clock on the title cut needs to be turned down:) Oh man...it's way too loud. Yes, I get that was his decision but damn...

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Reply #3 posted 11/07/19 7:22am

JoeyCococo

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dodger said:

I've always loved it and listen to it quite regularly.

I'm sure HM Buff made some comments on it in his recent interviews but I can't recall what..

If this got 'a proper release' the critics would have loved it.

LOVE IT. One issue - that clock on the title cut needs to be turned down:) Oh man...it's way too loud. Yes, I get that was his decision but damn...

...and, would love to hear if A Case Of U went on longer...it seemed to totally change gears.

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Reply #4 posted 11/07/19 7:32am

IstenSzek

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JoeyCococo said:

dodger said:

I've always loved it and listen to it quite regularly.

I'm sure HM Buff made some comments on it in his recent interviews but I can't recall what..

If this got 'a proper release' the critics would have loved it.

LOVE IT. One issue - that clock on the title cut needs to be turned down:) Oh man...it's way too loud. Yes, I get that was his decision but damn...


yeah, that clock is pretty loud isn't it lol

but i do like the effects he uses on the album. i know a lot of people disagree
and think they should have all been left off, but i don't know, i kind of like his
use of effects, or better yet, is overuse of effects biggrin


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #5 posted 11/07/19 7:33am

IstenSzek

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JoeyCococo said:

JoeyCococo said:

LOVE IT. One issue - that clock on the title cut needs to be turned down:) Oh man...it's way too loud. Yes, I get that was his decision but damn...

...and, would love to hear if A Case Of U went on longer...it seemed to totally change gears.



i would have also loved it if he'd actually done a true cover of "a case of u" and not just
half of it. it would have been great. especially the 83/84 version eek

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Reply #6 posted 11/07/19 7:42am

dodger

IstenSzek said:

JoeyCococo said:

LOVE IT. One issue - that clock on the title cut needs to be turned down:) Oh man...it's way too loud. Yes, I get that was his decision but damn...


yeah, that clock is pretty loud isn't it lol

but i do like the effects he uses on the album. i know a lot of people disagree
and think they should have all been left off, but i don't know, i kind of like his
use of effects, or better yet, is overuse of effects biggrin


I'm all in on the sound effects around this time. My favourite has to be the zip on Ripopgodazippa. He could not resist!

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Reply #7 posted 11/07/19 8:05am

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Great record! Even Animal Kingdom. haha

I'd love to hear if he recorded any "full-band" versions of these songs, aside from Welcome 2 The Dawn, which I know some people around here have already.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #8 posted 11/07/19 8:05am

IstenSzek

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:


yeah, that clock is pretty loud isn't it lol

but i do like the effects he uses on the album. i know a lot of people disagree
and think they should have all been left off, but i don't know, i kind of like his
use of effects, or better yet, is overuse of effects biggrin


I'm all in on the sound effects around this time. My favourite has to be the zip on Ripopgodazippa. He could not resist!

lol isn't there also that 'baby oil comes from the bottle' sound effect on that track? falloff
i'm not sure if it's there or if i'm just imagining it now lol


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #9 posted 11/07/19 8:06am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Great record! Even Animal Kingdom. haha

I'd love to hear if he recorded any "full-band" versions of these songs, aside from Welcome 2 The Dawn, which I know some people around here have already.



the 'non acoustic' version of that is in circulation (among a few)?

eek

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Reply #10 posted 11/07/19 8:09am

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IstenSzek said:

dodger said:

I'm all in on the sound effects around this time. My favourite has to be the zip on Ripopgodazippa. He could not resist!

lol isn't there also that 'baby oil comes from the bottle' sound effect on that track? falloff
i'm not sure if it's there or if i'm just imagining it now lol



The "deep-throating" noises still kind of gross me out. lol

Was it Mayte doing that? It sounds like her voice during other moments.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #11 posted 11/07/19 8:12am

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IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Great record! Even Animal Kingdom. haha

I'd love to hear if he recorded any "full-band" versions of these songs, aside from Welcome 2 The Dawn, which I know some people around here have already.



the 'non acoustic' version of that is in circulation (among a few)?

eek


Yea, I know at least 2 orgers have it. But you know how that goes. stickpoke whistling fit

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #12 posted 11/07/19 8:12am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

IstenSzek said:

lol isn't there also that 'baby oil comes from the bottle' sound effect on that track? falloff
i'm not sure if it's there or if i'm just imagining it now lol



The "deep-throating" noises still kind of gross me out. lol

Was it Mayte doing that? It sounds like her voice during other moments.


i bet it's prince doing those falloff

bet you he spent an afternoon in the studio with an assortment of fruits
to records some oral sex noises, like the ones on "come", which are like,
i don't know, at least 2 nectarines and a mango's worth of slurping lol



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #13 posted 11/07/19 8:14am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:


Yea, I know at least 2 orgers have it. But you know how that goes. stickpoke whistling fit



if i wasn't 41 by now i'd offer up a piece of my booty for that eek

but being 41 and all, i don't think there will be any takers lol neutral

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Reply #14 posted 11/07/19 8:18am

SchlomoThaHomo

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IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:


The "deep-throating" noises still kind of gross me out. lol

Was it Mayte doing that? It sounds like her voice during other moments.


i bet it's prince doing those falloff

bet you he spent an afternoon in the studio with an assortment of fruits
to records some oral sex noises, like the ones on "come", which are like,
i don't know, at least 2 nectarines and a mango's worth of slurping lol




lol Those are pretty gross, too. But imagining it's just him eating fruit makes it slightly more palatable, so maybe I'll just think about that the next time I play it, instead of skipping to the next track.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #15 posted 11/07/19 8:26am

dodger

IstenSzek said:



dodger said:




IstenSzek said:




yeah, that clock is pretty loud isn't it lol

but i do like the effects he uses on the album. i know a lot of people disagree
and think they should have all been left off, but i don't know, i kind of like his
use of effects, or better yet, is overuse of effects biggrin




I'm all in on the sound effects around this time. My favourite has to be the zip on Ripopgodazippa. He could not resist!




lol isn't there also that 'baby oil comes from the bottle' sound effect on that track? falloff
i'm not sure if it's there or if i'm just imagining it now lol




You are correct
lol
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Reply #16 posted 11/07/19 8:27am

IstenSzek

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dodger said:

IstenSzek said:

lol isn't there also that 'baby oil comes from the bottle' sound effect on that track? falloff
i'm not sure if it's there or if i'm just imagining it now lol


You are correct lol


i knew it!! lol i'm gonna listen to that when i get home tonight. great song by the way nod cool

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Reply #17 posted 11/07/19 8:29am

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IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:


Yea, I know at least 2 orgers have it. But you know how that goes. stickpoke whistling fit



if i wasn't 41 by now i'd offer up a piece of my booty for that eek

but being 41 and all, i don't think there will be any takers lol neutral


lol Couldn't hurt to try.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #18 posted 11/07/19 8:34am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

lol Couldn't hurt to try.


here goes nothing: booty! batting eyes

lol


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Reply #19 posted 11/07/19 9:05am

SchlomoThaHomo

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IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

lol Couldn't hurt to try.


here goes nothing: booty! batting eyes

lol



lol A true fan does what it takes! worship

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #20 posted 11/07/19 9:28am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

IstenSzek said:


here goes nothing: booty! batting eyes

lol



lol A true fan does what it takes! worship


so far i've only received an orgnote with a cease and desist smile


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Reply #21 posted 11/07/19 9:31am

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IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:


lol A true fan does what it takes! worship


so far i've only received an orgnote with a cease and desist smile



Wow! He really is still with us! touched

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #22 posted 11/07/19 9:42am

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All those with bootlegs are slowly losing their superiority as the estate will release most of it over the next few years 😀
[Edited 11/7/19 9:42am]
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Reply #23 posted 11/07/19 9:54am

IstenSzek

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

IstenSzek said:


so far i've only received an orgnote with a cease and desist smile



Wow! He really is still with us! touched


lol


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Reply #24 posted 11/07/19 10:25am

dodger

https://dionnefarris.com/index.html
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I just remembered this regarding Dionne
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Reply #25 posted 11/07/19 11:00am

IstenSzek

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dodger said:

https://dionnefarris.com/index.html . I just remembered this regarding Dionne


yes! this is the kind of stuff i'm looking for. i'd read it somewhere but forgotten about it again
and earlier today was thinking 'i wonder who this dionne is'. old age eh? lol

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Reply #26 posted 11/07/19 11:00am

Germanegro

Ooh! "3rd eye ," "Circle of Amour," "Dionne," "Cool as the Other Side of the Pillow," "Man In a Uniform," and all the rest!

nuts for 'em!

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Reply #27 posted 11/08/19 2:40am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Great record! Even Animal Kingdom. haha

I'd love to hear if he recorded any "full-band" versions of these songs, aside from Welcome 2 The Dawn, which I know some people around here have already.


I've always been curious about the non acoustic version Welcome 2 The Dawn, I really want to hear it someday smile
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Reply #28 posted 11/08/19 3:07am

Strive

dodger said:

I've always loved it and listen to it quite regularly.

I'm sure HM Buff made some comments on it in his recent interviews but I can't recall what..

If this got 'a proper release' the critics would have loved it.


Two that I remember.

Comeback had some sort of short vocalization intro (or outro?) where multiple harmonies became one.

The Truth and Don't Play Me (I think it was those two) were done in a single take back-to-back.

[Edited 11/8/19 3:09am]

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Reply #29 posted 11/08/19 3:57am

IstenSzek

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Strive said:

dodger said:

I've always loved it and listen to it quite regularly.

I'm sure HM Buff made some comments on it in his recent interviews but I can't recall what..

If this got 'a proper release' the critics would have loved it.


Two that I remember.

Comeback had some sort of short vocalization intro (or outro?) where multiple harmonies became one.

The Truth and Don't Play Me (I think it was those two) were done in a single take back-to-back.

[Edited 11/8/19 3:09am]


eek eek wow! to think he could have knocked those two songs out in a single take is just wow eek eek

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