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Reply #60 posted 09/26/19 1:49pm

CAL3

DarkKnight1 said:

The Symbol album is F'n brilliant, end to end. D&P has its challenges.

yeahthat

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Reply #61 posted 09/26/19 2:54pm

LoveGalore

Hot Summer is as cringey as it gets. Wedding Feast, of course. He considered releasing that New Power Generation EP containing the dreadful Robin Power track A Positive Place and that is pretty fucking cringey. "Get freaky, let da head bob." His Jamaican rap on Sun Moon & Stars. Nearly every song on Art Official Age. Laydown is extra cringe yet somehow the yoda thing went viral.

An artist as campy as Prince is bound to corner the market on cringe.
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Reply #62 posted 09/26/19 10:20pm

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jdcxc said:

kewlschool said:

A horrible song, yet it was fitting for most collegic football theme songs. (Yes, they are all that bad.)

I always view this song as an inside joke...ppl were expecting a big loud sporty anthem and he gave them an old school “fight” chant song from the leather helmet days. Lol

He liked the Vikings. It wasn't a joke.

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Reply #63 posted 09/27/19 11:20am

nonesuch

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

He went from arty, indie, hip, to crass cheesy and an unsuccessfull commercial sound. It went low and dumb.

it was sad to see.

the entire 90s was a sad state for Prince music.

I like what you say. By “indie“ you mean that he didn't care about conventions, right?

Low and dumb... CALL THE LAW - both the „remix“ and the video are just... crap, ridiculous... the swimming-pool scene... how could he be that pathetic?

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Reply #64 posted 09/27/19 1:37pm

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I was at my local independent record store and Because of this thread I went and bought D and P Studio Beginnings boot. No Rosie or Tony On songs. The title song is really missing that oomph and Rosie’s oomph is what I think made it a hit but it’s still nice hearing the song without her shrill singing in it. Same with Willing and Able sans Rosie and Tony.
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Reply #65 posted 09/27/19 8:58pm

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Cringey Prince = Most of his stage outfits the last 3 years of his life.

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Reply #66 posted 09/28/19 9:27am

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You sexy motherfuckers.

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Reply #67 posted 09/28/19 1:57pm

PliablyPurple

How is Wedding Feast anything but humorous?

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Reply #68 posted 09/28/19 2:18pm

jdcxc

PliablyPurple said:

How is Wedding Feast anything but humorous?



Exactly.
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Reply #69 posted 09/28/19 2:30pm

Empress

luv4u said:

I like both cool



So do I. Very much, in fact. I still listen to both often. Who cares if they haven't aged well? It's Prince and he's funky 😍
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Reply #70 posted 09/28/19 3:36pm

42Kristen

Finally someone has said what I have been thinking for a while now.

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Reply #71 posted 09/28/19 3:40pm

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Empress said:

luv4u said:

I like both cool



So do I. Very much, in fact. I still listen to both often. Who cares if they haven't aged well? It's Prince and he's funky 😍


I've never understood the concept of a song "aging" or sounding "dated". Maybe it's because 99% of the music I listen to is from before I was born but the way I see it, if it's good it's good.
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Reply #72 posted 09/30/19 4:09pm

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I hadn't listened to "Diamonds & Pearls" or "Love Symbol" for awhile so this weekend I popped them in. These albums have not aged well at all to me. Some of the corniest and silliest lyrics of his career and Prince + rap is a terrible marriage. He's done fine at times but some of this attempts are just embrassing.



Most of the hits still standout though- Get Off, Cream, D&P, Insatiable, 7, Sexy MF, Morning Papers but I found myself skipping half the tracks on these albums and I used to never do that. Anyone else find themselves loving these albums less than they used to?

[Edited 9/21/19 14:36pm]


Yes. A lot of Prince’s 90’s music hasn’t aged well at all. I think the Come and Chaos & Disorder albums have aged the best.
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Reply #73 posted 09/30/19 4:12pm

Factor1

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By the way, the cringiest Prince is The Rainbow Children.



The Rainbow Children is a great album. A top 10 for me. It has also aged very well.
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Reply #74 posted 09/30/19 4:56pm

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Factor1 said:

homesquid said:

I hadn't listened to "Diamonds & Pearls" or "Love Symbol" for awhile so this weekend I popped them in. These albums have not aged well at all to me. Some of the corniest and silliest lyrics of his career and Prince + rap is a terrible marriage. He's done fine at times but some of this attempts are just embrassing.

Most of the hits still standout though- Get Off, Cream, D&P, Insatiable, 7, Sexy MF, Morning Papers but I found myself skipping half the tracks on these albums and I used to never do that. Anyone else find themselves loving these albums less than they used to?

[Edited 9/21/19 14:36pm]

Yes. A lot of Prince’s 90’s music hasn’t aged well at all. I think the Come and Chaos & Disorder albums have aged the best.

Agree

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Reply #75 posted 10/10/19 8:27am

Miitch

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I became a fan as a 15 year old in 91 after seeing the Gett Off video, so I'll always love the D&P and Symbol era from a nostalgic point at least.


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I understand many long term fans may not have liked the new direction and Tony M but I still think on the whole that live band sound, on Goldnigga also, is pure ear candy.


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As Trivial says there is still a few classic tracks aside from the rapping across the albums; And God Created Woman being the best of the bunch for me.


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Tony gets a lot of shit on here but I think he worked well in moderation on the likes of Gett Off, The Max, The Sacrifice Of Victor and Willing And Able. Prince didn't need to use him on Love 2 The 9's though, that's for sure.


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If we are talking cringey Prince; look no further than his shivering and 'I'm so cold, hold me' shit on Do Me, Baby. I almost pissed my pants when I first heard that





Fight me over that last line. I love every bit of Do Me, Baby, and nobody's gonna change my mind. biggrin
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Reply #76 posted 10/10/19 9:47am

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The 'Goldnigga' track banter between TM and that southern belle is fully cringy.

"I like to watch."
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Reply #77 posted 10/10/19 12:19pm

ladygirl99

Am I the only one who thinks Tony M's rap isn't that bad? boxed Geez he is no Big Daddy Kane or Tupac or Nas but still I heard worse rappers.

But I like D&P. I used to be those 80s only Prince fan but I appreciated his 90s and beyond.

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Reply #78 posted 10/12/19 9:07am

Miitch

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Cringey Prince = Most of his stage outfits the last 3 years of his life.



Hell no! I strongly disagree. He had an amazing fashion sense right up to the end.
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Reply #79 posted 10/12/19 9:38am

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ladygirl99 said:

Am I the only one who thinks Tony M's rap isn't that bad? boxed Geez he is no Big Daddy Kane or Tupac or Nas but still I heard worse rappers.



But I like D&P. I used to be those 80s only Prince fan but I appreciated his 90s and beyond.



He is hugely inspired by BDK I think. I love the Goldnigga title track part 1,2,3. Especially the parts "Well, it's on" and "talk to me baby, tell me who's in the muthafuckin' house" accompanied by that tight band. Makes me Shriver of horniness just listening to the arrangement. And even more proud that Prince is the genius behind it all. And what about that album name Goldnigga. No one else had the balls to drop an album title like that in 1993 (!). Not Too $hort, not Ice Cube, not DJ Quiks crew. No one. Love my 90's Prince. And all his women is just my type, physically. Nona, Mayte, Carmen. Whoa! 10/10. He sure had that "it" factor about him.
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Reply #80 posted 10/12/19 9:56am

looby

I did cringe when he went into the rap thing, because that was so not good. lol......Now I know that the man was good at a lot of things, but rapping wasn't one of them, and a couple of other things that made me cringe was the early music videos of him in the trench coat and speedo underwear with the boots, and the ass out yellow outfit......yikes!

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Reply #81 posted 10/12/19 1:58pm

Miitch

looby said:

I did cringe when he went into the rap thing, because that was so not good. lol.....Now I know that the man was good at a lot of things, but rapping wasn't one of them, and a couple of other things that made me cringe was the early music videos of him in the trench coat and speedo underwear with the boots, and the ass out yellow outfit.....yikes!

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I love Dirty Mind look. It sure wasn't as refined as the style he had later on, but it was cute. And the Butt Suit was an Awardwinner, imho. lol
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Reply #82 posted 10/12/19 2:56pm

ladygirl99

looby said:

I did cringe when he went into the rap thing, because that was so not good. lol......Now I know that the man was good at a lot of things, but rapping wasn't one of them, and a couple of other things that made me cringe was the early music videos of him in the trench coat and speedo underwear with the boots, and the ass out yellow outfit......yikes!

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I think Prince was trying to keep up with the young ones because Prince felt grandfathered when rap exploded in the late '80s lol as people slowly considered him to be a has been around the early 90s and still referred him to his 80s fame even though Prince made some good things in the 90s too very overlook. When I was in high school even though people thought it was weird for me as a teen in the mid 90s to listen to Prince they respect his art.

He went from being unique to mainstream by the late '80s. I know Jill Jones said this too that Prince went from being an innovator to comformist especially in the late '80s when he was trying to be like the New Jack artists and chasing after Teddy Riley sound instead of continue to expertiment. But Jill had to understand business is business and that is why she left the music industry per she said.

He had a lot of jazzy rap and New Jack Swing in Come and I love New Jack Swing.

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Reply #83 posted 10/13/19 9:57pm

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Each time someone compares Prince's creative talents to Mozart's, I remind them of "Jughead."

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Reply #84 posted 10/13/19 10:30pm

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RobotFix said:

Each time someone compares Prince's creative talents to Mozart's, I remind them of "Jughead."


Mozart wrote a piece called "Lick My Arse".

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Reply #85 posted 10/13/19 10:59pm

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"Leck mich Im Arsch" is immortal. "Jughead" is an embarrassing miscalculation.

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Reply #86 posted 10/14/19 12:27am

Wolfie87

RobotFix said:

Each time someone compares Prince's creative talents to Mozart's, I remind them of "Jughead."



...And still have a top 200, which is a daunting task to fill out without leaving out potentially great material (and yes, that includes associated artists). So what's your problem? To understate your argument you choose Jughead as a main example? Wow, great ratio sorting out good songs vs bad songs.
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Reply #87 posted 10/14/19 6:22am

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You're welcome.

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Reply #88 posted 10/14/19 10:21pm

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homesquid said:

I hadn't listened to "Diamonds & Pearls" or "Love Symbol" for awhile so this weekend I popped them in. These albums have not aged well at all to me. Some of the corniest and silliest lyrics of his career and Prince + rap is a terrible marriage. He's done fine at times but some of this attempts are just embrassing.

Most of the hits still standout though- Get Off, Cream, D&P, Insatiable, 7, Sexy MF, Morning Papers but I found myself skipping half the tracks on these albums and I used to never do that. Anyone else find themselves loving these albums less than they used to?

[Edited 9/21/19 14:36pm]

Tha fact that you quote "Cream" as being a "standout", makes your post invalid. wink


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Reply #89 posted 10/15/19 4:05am

Miitch

callimnate said:



homesquid said:


I hadn't listened to "Diamonds & Pearls" or "Love Symbol" for awhile so this weekend I popped them in. These albums have not aged well at all to me. Some of the corniest and silliest lyrics of his career and Prince + rap is a terrible marriage. He's done fine at times but some of this attempts are just embrassing.



Most of the hits still standout though- Get Off, Cream, D&P, Insatiable, 7, Sexy MF, Morning Papers but I found myself skipping half the tracks on these albums and I used to never do that. Anyone else find themselves loving these albums less than they used to?


[Edited 9/21/19 14:36pm]





Tha fact that you quote "Cream" as being a "standout", makes your post invalid. wink





Whats wrong with Cream? lol
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