SchlomoThaHomo said:

Jill is SERRRRVING in the 1999 clip, and Prince looks sooo happy and excited!

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

U have said NOTHING on here I don't already know. Googling & writing ALL of that was unnecessary.

Also I know the difference between the pronouns who & whom. I choose to write in my own unique way and don't need a grammar lesson from U or anyone else here .

I am NOT Googling anything. Do you think you were the ONLY person around during that time period??!! You are “cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs”!! So, if you already know what I posted then it would seem you are purposely posting BS for the heck of it. * So your “own unique way” of posting is to use grammatically incorrect phrases? Okay, gotcha

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Jill Jones was mesmerizing, wow! She knew how to move;I'd like to see more of her.

Loved her in the Automatic video

Ridiculously cavernous reverb on the audio.

PeggyO said:

Jill Jones was mesmerizing, wow! She knew how to move;I'd like to see more of her.

Loved her in the Automatic video

Prince(r.i.p.) could have definitely made Jill a STARRA!

violetcrush said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Jill is SERRRRVING in the 1999 clip, and Prince looks sooo happy and excited!

He had a new album quickly climbing the charts on both R&B and Top 40 radio, two other groups he created gaining in popularity, 3 women in regular rotation on the tour (Vanity, Susan, and Jill), and he had just met Susannah in LA. Plus any women he was meeting on the road. * I’d say that is a recipe for being in a state of bliss!!

29th of December - the album isn't doing nearly what he wanted it to do (sales being basically the same as those of Controvery in the same time period) , he still hasn't had a hit single, I've definitely read accounts that he was very frustrated at this point in time - he doesn't show it here though.

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jaawwnn said:

violetcrush said:

SchlomoThaHomo said: He had a new album quickly climbing the charts on both R&B and Top 40 radio, two other groups he created gaining in popularity, 3 women in regular rotation on the tour (Vanity, Susan, and Jill), and he had just met Susannah in LA. Plus any women he was meeting on the road. * I’d say that is a recipe for being in a state of bliss!!

29th of December - the album isn't doing nearly what he wanted it to do (sales being basically the same as those of Controvery in the same time period) , he still hasn't had a hit single, I've definitely read accounts that he was very frustrated at this point in time - he doesn't show it here though.

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jaawwnn said:

violetcrush said:

jaawwnn said:

29th of December - the album isn't doing nearly what he wanted it to do (sales being basically the same as those of Controvery in the same time period) , he still hasn't had a hit single, I've definitely read accounts that he was very frustrated at this point in time - he doesn't show it here though.

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Yes, but it wouldn't be long before LRC started quickly climbing the charts. A few months maybe. I remember it being played on my Top 40 radio stations. Everyone was talking about it. I was in high school, and kids were talking about what the song meant Dez stated that as they continued the tour there was a “wave of white” forming in the audiences, and he knew they were crossing over.

The 1999 album & tour was a slow starter. Although R&B radio picked it up quickly. It wasn't a hit out the gate. Until 'Little Red Corvette' hit on the second leg of the tour. Then Warners re-released the single 1999 that then quickly shot up the pop charts along with a another top ten pop single "Delirious". Prince(r.i.p.) then became a HUGE pop star. Although it didn't hurt that MTV added both videos to heavy rotation. Making Prince(r.i.p.) the FIRST major male black artist added to it's rotation roster.

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Why wasn't LRC released as the first single? It has hit written all over it.

Mikado said:

Why wasn't LRC released as the first single? It has hit written all over it.

If someone asks me what does 80's music sound like I'd reach for the song 1999. It still boggles my mind that it wasn't a hit straight out of the gate. I can imagine a world where Little Red Corvette doesn't exist but 1999 is as big a part of culture as Blowin' in the Wind or Dancing in the Street - it's just... there.

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Not that it is important,

but,

Jill Jones sang on a tune by the superb Ryuichi Sakamoto (who did the RAIN video for Madonna as well), called "You Do Me" (1986),

which is a very very very good song ! Check it out (the whole album is great).

Watch the video here,

https://www.youtube.com/w...ygQHlXeipk

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No she didn't do much after Prince.

Just a frew guest appearances here and there.

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violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: "U obviously don't like Jill(whom can write her own book and it will be a page turner)"

Oh, and it should be "WHO" - not "WHOM" in your above statement. WHOM replaces him or her in a sentence. Does "her can write her own book..." sound right to you?? Nope.

Thank you.
It uses poor grammar just to annoy people.
This place needs a "block user" function.

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: "U obviously don't like Jill(whom can write her own book and it will be a page turner)"

Oh, and it should be "WHO" - not "WHOM" in your above statement. WHOM replaces him or her in a sentence. Does "her can write her own book..." sound right to you?? Nope.

Mikado said:

Why wasn't LRC released as the first single? It has hit written all over it.

Because "1999" as a first single publicized the album (title).

Not a great live version and the video is messy... not sure why the Syracuse PR concert gets so much hate. Better video, and way better version of "1999". Also noticed his voice is a bit rough. That's all.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: I am NOT Googling anything. Do you think you were the ONLY person around during that time period??!! You are “cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs”!! So, if you already know what I posted then it would seem you are purposely posting BS for the heck of it. * So your “own unique way” of posting is to use grammatically incorrect phrases? Okay, gotcha

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You weaponized the word 'black' you terrorris!!

That is not 'inclusive'.

laytonian said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Mikado said:

Why wasn't LRC released as the first single? It has hit written all over it.

I think the title track was the perfect choice for the first single.It's a sensational track and,being the title track, it truly promotes the album as a whole.

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

jaawwnn said:

Mikado said:

Why wasn't LRC released as the first single? It has hit written all over it.

If someone asks me what does 80's music sound like I'd reach for the song 1999. It still boggles my mind that it wasn't a hit straight out of the gate. I can imagine a world where Little Red Corvette doesn't exist but 1999 is as big a part of culture as Blowin' in the Wind or Dancing in the Street - it's just... there.

I only turned eleven in '82, but it's hard not to imagine people RUNNING to the dance floor upon hearing that intro!

eyewishuheaven said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

The 1999 album & tour was a slow starter. Although R&B radio picked it up quickly. It wasn't a hit out the gate. Until 'Little Red Corvette' hit on the second leg of the tour. Then Warners re-released the single 1999 that then quickly shot up the pop charts along with a another top ten pop single "Delirious". Prince(r.i.p.) then became a HUGE pop star. Although it didn't hurt that MTV added both videos to heavy rotation. Making Prince(r.i.p.) the FIRST major male black artist added to it's rotation roster.

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Actually, I believe it was Michael Jackson who made it to MTV first. Then Prince followed with LRC and 1999. I believe it was early Spring when they began playing his videos. The Rolling Stone cover, which was published in March or April, helped as well. The tour ended April 10th, so they would have been seeing the crossover before that point.

Prince's(r.i.p.) 1999 video premiered on MTV in December 1982.

MJ's FIRST music video off Thriller, Billie Jean premiered on MTV march 1983.

Yea Prince was first on MTV, though the MJ machine and fandom like to pretend otherwise.

Looks like the same "Mr. PHD in reverb" (guy who did Originals) is the guy who worked the audio on this concert, because it is literally drowning in reverb. Why this dude feels it necessary to muddy up Prince's vocals with this is beyond me, it is not a small amount, it is a large amount. Let's hope most of the unreleased stuff on 1999 Super Deluxe was not mastered by this guy.

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince's(r.i.p.) 1999 video premiered on MTV in December 1982.

MJ's FIRST music video off Thriller, Billie Jean premiered on MTV march 1983.

GROW UP!!! Regardless, MJ was the first to hit constant rotation with the Billy Jean video, which is why he is thought to have had the first video aired. Then he exploded with Thriller December of ‘83. * Prince did not move into constant rotation on MTV until they started playing both LRC and 1999 regularly in Spring of ‘83.

Doesn't matter! Prince(r.i.p.) was THE FIRST MALE BLACK ARTIST on MTV! Which is really groundbreaking in itself & he should be recognized for it.

Own up to U being wrong about that & the 1999 album.

"He had a new album quickly climbing the charts on both R&B and Top 40 radio,"

To your credit it did eventually quickly climb up the charts early that next year. But not right away. The 1999 album didn't look to good for Prince(r.i.p.) at first. But I was there along the way right up until his pop stardom & beyond.