Hmm! I wonder if that cassette still exists What a strange trivia though, I'm not familiar with Sly's 80s output aside from "Ain't but the One Way" (underrated album btw) and the Jesse Johnson duet. I do hear the influence though, because I thought about Cynthia Robinson & Jerry Martini playing the horn lines in my head and it kinda makes sense. But I also hear the Minneapolis funk moreso than the former, all I know is this song kicks ass.

Militant said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

He never even met the dude, though.

If the premise behind his philanthrophy was as the article suggests -- he wanted to help him simply because he was one of his musical idols -- makes sense he'd help Sly regardless of the specific reason Sly needed help.

This isn't correct.

Prince and Sly met during the 1977 recording sessions for "For You" at the Record Plant in Sausalito.

The post of mine you're quoting was in reference to the article on Clyde Stubblefield if you follow the quote train (or my call-back reference, "as the article suggests"), whom the article clearly states directly from Clyde himself that he never met Prince.

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I never meant to imply that Prince never met Sly. The entire quote of mine is referencing someone else to place Sly in the context of other Prince philanthrophy ("makes sense he'd help Sly", based on article, based on Clyde: whom he never met).

jdcxc said:

Mikado said:

Interesting. I never knew Prince paid off Sly's child support. Doesn't really seem like something he would do. [Edited 8/30/19 10:12am]

https://www.billboard.com...ical-bills

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Back in 1985 or so,I recall hearing that Sly was working on alot of new music and that Prince had some tunes for him.Later,I heard that Jesse Johnson was gonna produce some new tracks for Sly.So it seems that he was definitely planning a comeback.Too bad it never happened.

jdcxc said:

This story doesn’t ring true for me. Plus, I don’t think Sly has been in songwriting mode for decades. And he was barely able to sing a few background lines with Jesse Johnson around this time.

That's not true. Sly was recording full songs with Jesse too

An interview with Michael Dean on his Podcast Juice (Jan 2017), Eric Leeds clearly mentioned that Prince recorded "6" in 90 mins.
Eric's memory was very clear that early morning when they recorded "6" because he was really pissed off!! You better listen to this episode! Eric explained all the details for Madhouse recordings.

Is it possible that Prince did the majority of the work for Six, gave it to Sly so Sly could put some touches on it, then gave that to Eric so he could put Sax on top? Or vice versa with Sly and Eric?

EekAhBoo said:

jdcxc said:

EekAhBoo said:

That's not true. Sly was recording full songs with Jesse too

Full songs? Where are they? I do recall Jesse talking about Sly material tho. Maybe.

Yes, full songs, but they're in the vault, along with many other Sly songs. There are a lot of unreleased songs. Also, Sly recorded Crazay in full. It was a complete vocal track that was cut and edited into a duet

It's a great track regardless of who to thank. Yes it's simple, but some of the best things are simple.

Regardless of whether or not this story is true, for me, Sly Stone is Prince's true musical 'father' -

Multi-instrumentalist

Leader of mixed race/ gender funk rock band

Versatile songwriter, with a quirky, often humourous view of the world

Sly's musical infuence is all over P's sound right through his career.

Prince arguably finished what Sly had begun and was the ultimate expression of the best ideals of Sly Stone

EekAhBoo said:

jdcxc said:

EekAhBoo said: Full songs? Where are they? I do recall Jesse talking about Sly material tho. Maybe.

Yes, full songs, but they're in the vault, along with many other Sly songs. There are a lot of unreleased songs. Also, Sly recorded Crazay in full. It was a complete vocal track that was cut and edited into a duet

I often dream that one day Sly's vault of unreleased material from the 80's onwards will see the light of day. Think it would correct a lot of misconceptions that Sly was an artistic 'burnout' after the 70s. Not so, judging from the latterday songs I've heard that were released here and there.

MarshallStacks said:

Regardless of whether or not this story is true, for me, Sly Stone is Prince's true musical 'father' -

Multi-instrumentalist

Leader of mixed race/ gender funk rock band

Versatile songwriter, with a quirky, often humourous view of the world

Sly's musical infuence is all over P's sound right through his career.

Prince arguably finished what Sly had begun and was the ultimate expression of the best ideals of Sly Stone

Great analysis!

MarshallStacks said:

EekAhBoo said:

Yes, full songs, but they're in the vault, along with many other Sly songs. There are a lot of unreleased songs. Also, Sly recorded Crazay in full. It was a complete vocal track that was cut and edited into a duet

I often dream that one day Sly's vault of unreleased material from the 80's onwards will see the light of day. Think it would correct a lot of misconceptions that Sly was an artistic 'burnout' after the 70s. Not so, judging from the latterday songs I've heard that were released here and there.

I agree, and from the material I've heard, I would say it's true, but maybe I'm just a bias Sly fanatic

I don't believe that Sly had anything to do with "Six". You can hear Prince all over that song.

OldFriends4Sale said:

BartVanHemelen said:

According to this post on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/...265569546/

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Back then huh? before I read this I assumed it might have been years later.

Prince knew Sly didn't like him and didn't want anything to do with him, according to Jesse Johnson.
I wonder why if this is true, that Prince would do it. Take the song or pay the bills

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Se7en said:

I don't believe that Sly had anything to do with "Six". You can hear Prince all over that song.

Yeah, I agree, and it doesn't really sound like anything Sly was recording back then.