RODSERLING said:

You can speak freely, we won't judge you

I haven’t posted in a while, i have just been stopping by and sort of lurking, so here goes. Remember you said No judgment… I was not blown away by the album.

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I probably would have / might have purchased a few songs, but prior to opening itunes, I was poking around on YouTube looking at different older nostalgia artists (for lack of a better term) I got completely distracted by Karen Carpenter and ended up buying several of her songs. Then when I went back to itunes and Prince ‘originals’ I just ended up closing iTunes.

..... no judgement.

I did a Tidal trial to listen to the album a bunch.

I don't care about the barebones CD but, if I was going to buy the album, I'd have to buy it from Amazon since they include a digital copy with the CD. So, long story short, I'd either have to have something else I'd want to buy with Originals to get to the $25 mark for free shipping or the price of the MP3 would have to be $5 or under for me to forgo getting the CD. That's what happened with Mayte's book when I bought the Kindle edition for $3.

The actual quality of the album has nothing to do with it. Since Prince is no longer with us, I don't feel the urgency to buy day 1 like I did with 3rdEyeTunes or AoA/PE. I can wait, unless the value is out of this world like Purple Rain Deluxe.

Yeah, I've just been streaming it on Spotify - no need to double dip for a barebones CD.

The album itself showed why Prince gave those songs away - you can't tell me Jungle Love isn't better suited to Morris or that the Manic Monday didn't work better with The Bangles. Some of the more "anonymous" protege songs weren't included - stuff like Get It Up or 777-9311 which I was probably more interested in hearing.

Of course I'm always glad to hear new Prince stuff in high quality, but I doubt I'll be returning to any of the demos on Originals. More of a curious oddity thing personally.

Streaming on Deezer only.

Why? Because there was no real reason to get the CD, it didn't have proper liner notes and in order to buy it I have to want to listen to it more than a few times and feel that enough care and effort went in to do that. They mucked around with the sound by adding echoes to vocals, altered the mixes making them sound very non Prince like to me and used substandard (not the 'best') versions of the songs (still reeling from them using a version of Baby You're A Trip, one of his best ever songs IMO, with Jill's and not Prince's far superior backing vocals).

It was also the same for P&M 1983, I don't want to encourage quick cash ins and rush releases.

I did buy PR Deluxe and still enjoy it. If they do a good job on 1999 Deluxe then I'll buy that physically. But please put the proper liner notes and interviews in the actual CD version and not just the special editions/vinyls if you want people to still buy physical.

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Honestly, I've just not been able to justify stumping up £50 for the deluxe version.

I'm thinking of asking the wife to get it me for christmas.

The prices on the vinyl releases are just stupid

RicoN said:

Me, cause i'll be buying only something ORIGINAL, not something what i already know for 30 years.

Been listening on Tidal. I will buy the vinyl eventually b/c I do love the album, but there's nothing on there that I feel like I have to have right now.

I know a lot of people on here are anti-streaming, but it's your loss really. I listen to all new music now on Tidal and when I feel like I need to hear it on vinyl I double down and order it.

I didn't buy it - they lost me with Piano & a microphone, which I didn't buy either...

All I want is one CD-Box with every finished but unreleased recording. One DVD for every tour, that's it.

Moonbeam Levels, Baby You're A Trip and Wonderful Ass were all recorded between July and November 1982, but I have to buy three different posthumous releases to hear them. That's stupid.

ForbiddenFruit said:

RODSERLING said:

ForbiddenFruit said:

I didn't buy it - they lost me with Piano & a microphone, which I didn't buy either...

All I want is one CD-Box with every finished but unreleased recording. One DVD for every tour, that's it.

Moonbeam Levels, Baby You're A Trip and Wonderful Ass were all recorded between July and November 1982, but I have to buy three different posthumous releases to hear them. That's stupid.

Baby You re a trip, IIRC, was recorded circa 1987. It sounds more recent than 1982. In fact, it even sounds like escaped from the Emancipation sessions.

Both the production and especially the singing style always screamed (literally) 1999 to me.

PrinceVault says recorded the day after "Lady Cab Driver." That makes most sense, the production hits that same 1/2 electro-funk 1/2 organic instrumentation sweet spot, right in the middle.

RODSERLING said:

ForbiddenFruit said:

I didn't buy it - they lost me with Piano & a microphone, which I didn't buy either...

All I want is one CD-Box with every finished but unreleased recording. One DVD for every tour, that's it.

Moonbeam Levels, Baby You're A Trip and Wonderful Ass were all recorded between July and November 1982, but I have to buy three different posthumous releases to hear them. That's stupid.

Baby You re a trip, IIRC, was recorded circa 1987. It sounds more recent than 1982. In fact, it even sounds like escaped from the Emancipation sessions.

You're getting that mixed up with Jill Jones' version which appears on her album, with horns etc, that was recorded '86/87.. The original was from 1982. However, I have also always felt it would have fit nicely on Emancipation, it somehow has a similar vibe. I'm just annoyed that they used the version with Jill's backing vocals rather than Prince's far more passionate backing vocals on Originals.

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I have found most 'fans' don't actually buy everything released by Prince and his associates!

Unlike myself, I have never come across anyone else that buys everything on each format.

Maybe people are more selective, which is fair enough, but I find if odd when people can be overtly critical of Prince when they haven't invested in his career.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Mikado said:

Yeah, I've just been streaming it on Spotify - no need to double dip for a barebones CD.

The album itself showed why Prince gave those songs away - you can't tell me Jungle Love isn't better suited to Morris or that the Manic Monday didn't work better with The Bangles. Some of the more "anonymous" protege songs weren't included - stuff like Get It Up or 777-9311 which I was probably more interested in hearing.

Of course I'm always glad to hear new Prince stuff in high quality, but I doubt I'll be returning to any of the demos on Originals. More of a curious oddity thing personally.

i don't know, prince had his own touches that are well worth hearing, the laugh at the beginning of jungle love and the funky break in manic monday that the bangles left out. and, i probably heard gigolos get lonely 2 but I never was struck by it until i heard this version, prince, like all the great singers had a way of conveying sincerity that the mediocrities don't, and that's because you can't fake passion.

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darkroman said:

I have found most 'fans' don't actually buy everything released by Prince and his associates!

Unlike myself, I have never come across anyone else that buys everything on each format.

Maybe people are more selective, which is fair enough, but I find if odd when people can be overtly critical of Prince when they haven't invested in his career.

i hear you, that's why i spent real money and bought hard copy's, i want more and although you can hear all of this for free, i want to support his legacy with cold hard cash.

I have been listening on YouTube.

I feel uncomfortable supporting a release-schedule that doesn't cater my needs so far. That's why I haven't purchased anything at all since 2016. I want proper deluxe-sets of the golden era, live-albums, the lot.

ChickenMcNuggets said:

The vinyl prices utterly turned me off the idea of buying it on release. £20-25 for the standard black version and anything up to £40 for the purple deluxe one, I could’ve lived with. As it is, I listen to it on Spotify and will probably pick up a cheap used vinyl copy at some point down the line, especially as I’ve got other Prince collecting priorities at the minute.

the purple rain deluxe had a dvd of syracuse with better sound, someone is at least trying to give you some bang for the buck.

It is a novelty, nothing more.

At some point, the Estate will figure this out.

Either release some new(unknown) music or u don' get any money from people like me.

I'm waiting on The Chocolate Invasion, The Slaughter House, Black is the New Black, etc.........

jdcxc said:

I don’t understand why a Prince fan wud purposefully not buy a new Prince album. Is that $10 really gonna break you? It’s a couple Starbucks Frappuccinos.

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Not every Prince fan cares to have a copy of everything. I can think of lots of artists I consider myself a massive fan of but don't care to buy a copy of everything put out by them or their estates. I'm sure you can too.

I bought it and will continue to buy every new vinyl physical release. However, if you are not a fan of vinyl, I understand if you didnt buy physical copies. That said, streaming is buying. Welcome to now.