Reply #60 posted 09/03/19 1:31pm
PeggyO |
Genesia said:
I don't think he was "hiding" anything. Do you talk about your pain with strangers? (If you do,
please stop)
Had a little laugh at that, since I am an RN. It is my deepest, daily wish that people would stop dumping their unnecessary pain on me. I appreciate the Stoics,(like Prince), though he went a bit far.
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Reply #61 posted 09/03/19 2:58pm
jfenster |
this book will make eveyone realize how much we will have lost ...by him not being able to finish it |
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Reply #62 posted 09/03/19 3:00pm
PeggyO |
I wish he would have started sooner, but another poster mentioned that had he lived, he may have cancelled the book anyway. Oh, Prince, you kept us on our toes... |
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Reply #63 posted 09/03/19 3:15pm
rogifan |
OK just one small quibble. Prince said he never left Minneapolis. Well technically he did as Chanhassen isn't Minneapolis. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #64 posted 09/03/19 3:18pm
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PeggyO said:
I wish he would have started sooner, but another poster mentioned that had he lived, he may have cancelled the book anyway. Oh, Prince, you kept us on our toes...
Once U sign, commit, & collect from a book deal. U can't just cancel it! Prince(r.i.p.) was just too excited & committed to this project to cancel. Especially after the rushed into press conference annoucement that was first reported here by a dedicated,loyal fan.
This article was just beautifully written,insightful,informative & heartbreaking all at the same time..
"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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Reply #65 posted 09/03/19 3:47pm
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Mclihah2 was starting a Thread on this article below but it was closed by moderator and said to talk about it on this Thread so....
The Book of Prince - New Yorker Article- September 2019
Prince had grand plans for his autobiography, but only a few months to live.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/09/the-book-of-prince
On January 29, 2016, Prince summoned me to his home, Paisley Park, to tell me about a book he wanted to write. He was looking for a collaborator. Paisley Park is in Chanhassen, Minnesota, about forty minutes southwest of Minneapolis. Prince treasured the privacy it afforded him. He once said, in an interview with Oprah Winfrey, that Minnesota is “so cold it keeps the bad people out.” Sure enough, when I landed, there was an entrenched layer of snow on the ground, and hardly anyone in sight.
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Reply #67 posted 09/03/19 4:10pm
PeggyO |
It was mentioned that he wanted to know what it would cost to pull it if it was no longer true of him.
ChocolateBox3121 said:
PeggyO said:
I wish he would have started sooner, but another poster mentioned that had he lived, he may have cancelled the book anyway. Oh, Prince, you kept us on our toes...
Once U sign, commit, & collect from a book deal. U can't just cancel it! Prince(r.i.p.) was just too excited & committed to this project to cancel. Especially after the rushed into press conference annoucement that was first reported here by a dedicated,loyal fan.
This article was just beautifully written,insightful,informative & heartbreaking all at the same time..
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Reply #68 posted 09/03/19 4:28pm
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PeggyO said:
It was mentioned that he wanted to know what it would cost to pull it if it was no longer true of him.
ChocolateBox3121 said:
Once U sign, commit, & collect from a book deal. U can't just cancel it! Prince(r.i.p.) was just too excited & committed to this project to cancel. Especially after the rushed into press conference annoucement that was first reported here by a dedicated,loyal fan.
This article was just beautifully written,insightful,informative & heartbreaking all at the same time..
The cost of pulling it off the shelves in the future permanently, if he felt it no longer reflected of who he was anymore later after it became released. [Edited 9/3/19 16:30pm] "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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Reply #69 posted 09/03/19 4:45pm
PeggyO |
ChocolateBox3121 said:
PeggyO said:
It was mentioned that he wanted to know what it would cost to pull it if it was no longer true of him.
The cost of pulling it off the shelves in the future permanently, if he felt it no longer reflected of who he was anymore later after it became released.
[Edited 9/3/19 16:30pm]
That is what I said. |
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Reply #70 posted 09/03/19 5:25pm
Hamad |
Mystery is a word for a reason indeed. The fact that this autobiography was unfinished, will add the intrigue to his already enigmatic persona, which will encourage people to pay closer attention to the music. After all, didn't he once said everything people need to know about him is in "his music"? He definitely embodied mystery all his life and anyway perhaps its better that somet hings were left unsaid. less is more thats what I think. |
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Reply #71 posted 09/03/19 8:46pm
leadline |
As I mentioned before for those folks that say Prince knew he was going to die, or had nothing left to accomplish, this article shows he had grand future plans way beyond this book. Definitely not the actions of someone who knows they are checking out in a few months. "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 |
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Reply #72 posted 09/03/19 9:45pm
Goddess4Real |
jfenster said:
this book will make eveyone realize how much we will have lost ...by him not being able to finish it
Keep Calm & Listen To Prince |
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Reply #73 posted 09/03/19 9:46pm
ISaidLifeIsJus tAGame |
leadline said:
As I mentioned before for those folks that say Prince knew he was going to die, or had nothing left to accomplish, this article shows he had grand future plans way beyond this book. Definitely not the actions of someone who knows they are checking out in a few months.
If you think this, then you have missed the point of the article.
I have a difficult time reconciling this also.
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Reply #74 posted 09/03/19 11:16pm
PeggyO |
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
leadline said:
As I mentioned before for those folks that say Prince knew he was going to die, or had nothing left to accomplish, this article shows he had grand future plans way beyond this book. Definitely not the actions of someone who knows they are checking out in a few months.
If you think this, then you have missed the point of the article.
I have a difficult time reconciling this also.
I am curious...what do you think was the point of the article? |
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Reply #75 posted 09/04/19 1:37am
Vannormal
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BartVanHemelen said:
BartVanHemelen said:
https://www.newyorker.com...-of-prince
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BTW this looks to be (a version of) the introduction to the book. From https://www.apnews.com/0c...8b284f044b :
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From https://www.penguinrandom...399589652/ :
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The book is framed by editor Dan Piepenbring’s riveting and moving introduction about his profound collaboration with Prince in his final months—a time when Prince was thinking deeply about how to reveal more of himself and his ideas to the world, while retaining the mystery and mystique he’d so carefully cultivated—and annotations that provide context to the book’s images.
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Thank you for the (great) info (as always).
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I read the (a version of) the introduction to the book, twice !
Dan Piepenbring (so far) did a great job I believe.
Really looking forward to this, even if it's only less than 300 pages to read.
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Prince had 50 pages written himself, right ?
Does that means extra essays and Prince's quotes & interviews puzeled together from over the years as one book... I wonder.
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Reply #76 posted 09/04/19 2:29am
BartVanHemelen |
Vannormal said:
Does that means extra essays and Prince's quotes & interviews puzeled together from over the years as one book... I wonder.
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The contents of the book have been known for months -- https://www.apnews.com/0c...8b284f044b -- and are detailed on the book's official page -- https://www.penguinrandom...399589652/ . Why do you lot find it so hard to do any research, or even click links? © Bart Van Hemelen
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Reply #77 posted 09/04/19 7:04am
poppys |
Astasheiks said:
I find it a Great read
Me too. I loved it. As usual, Prince had great taste, this time in a writer.
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Reply #78 posted 09/04/19 7:09am
poppys |
Vannormal said:
BartVanHemelen said:
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Thank you for the (great) info (as always).
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I read the (a version of) the introduction to the book, twice !
Dan Piepenbring (so far) did a great job I believe.
Really looking forward to this, even if it's only less than 300 pages to read.
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Prince had 50 pages written himself, right ?
Does that means extra essays and Prince's quotes & interviews puzeled together from over the years as one book... I wonder.
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This article mentions about 30 pages. I guess we'll find out how many he actually wrote, idk.
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Reply #79 posted 09/04/19 7:11am
poppys |
PeggyO said:
ChocolateBox3121 said:
The cost of pulling it off the shelves in the future permanently, if he felt it no longer reflected of who he was anymore later after it became released.
That is what I said.
No eyeroll here. I love that part. So very Prince. And he got it accomplished in the con-tract.
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Reply #80 posted 09/04/19 7:13am
poppys |
PeggyO said:
ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
If you think this, then you have missed the point of the article.
I have a difficult time reconciling this also.
I am curious...what do you think was the point of the article?
For me there are several points in the article. Completely fitting for Prince who could easily cook on an 8 burner stove - with stuff in the oven too.
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Reply #81 posted 09/04/19 7:17am
poppys |
Hamad said:
Mystery is a word for a reason indeed. The fact that this autobiography was unfinished, will add the intrigue to his already enigmatic persona, which will encourage people to pay closer attention to the music. After all, didn't he once said everything people need to know about him is in "his music"? He definitely embodied mystery all his life and anyway perhaps its better that somet hings were left unsaid. less is more thats what I think.
That's an interesting take Hamad. We do know one thing for sure now - do not call him Magical!!!
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Reply #82 posted 09/04/19 7:42am
andrewm7 |
thank you so much for posting this article, I am really looking forward to the book |
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Reply #83 posted 09/04/19 8:16am
poppys |
The book would allow him to seize the narrative of his own life. Once, he said, he’d seen one of his former employees on TV saying she thought it was her God-given duty to preserve and protect the unreleased material in his vault. “Now, that sounds like someone I should call the police on,” he told me. “How is that not racist?” People were always casting him—and all black artists—in a helpless role, he said, as if he were incapable of managing himself. “I still have to brush my own teeth,” he said.
Who said this? Please don't hurt me Bart. "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" |
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Reply #84 posted 09/04/19 8:17am
PeggyO |
I remember Prince referring to the author as "My brother, Dan...he is not a 'yes' man."
I had the feeling he had known Dan for a long time though it turns out they had just recently met.
Prince felt simpatico with him. From the brief excerpt, I got the feeling that though Dan is only 29 (which also surprised me), perhaps he was just the right type of temperament to allow Prince to unfold...to the extent that Prince would ever unfold.
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Reply #85 posted 09/04/19 8:18am
PeggyO |
poppys said:
The book would allow him to seize the narrative of his own life. Once, he said, he’d seen one of his former employees on TV saying she thought it was her God-given duty to preserve and protect the unreleased material in his vault. “Now, that sounds like someone I should call the police on,” he told me. “How is that not racist?” People were always casting him—and all black artists—in a helpless role, he said, as if he were incapable of managing himself. “I still have to brush my own teeth,” he said.
Who said this? Please don't hurt me Bart.
I believe it was Susan Rogers. |
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Reply #86 posted 09/04/19 8:27am
PURPLEIZED3121 |
PeggyO said:
poppys said:
The book would allow him to seize the narrative of his own life. Once, he said, he’d seen one of his former employees on TV saying she thought it was her God-given duty to preserve and protect the unreleased material in his vault. “Now, that sounds like someone I should call the police on,” he told me. “How is that not racist?” People were always casting him—and all black artists—in a helpless role, he said, as if he were incapable of managing himself. “I still have to brush my own teeth,” he said.
Who said this? Please don't hurt me Bart.
I believe it was Susan Rogers.
if anyone here is a parent...& a non parent tries to give you advice on your child...& you just want to fucking punch their inexperienced ass! THAT is how it was for P...sacred & ALL his to treat how the hell he wanted...if we had a problem with tapes spoiling that was OUR problem not his.
Mad, stubbourn, selfish, egotistical & that's why we loved him! |
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Reply #87 posted 09/04/19 8:28am
poppys |
PeggyO said:
poppys said:
The book would allow him to seize the narrative of his own life. Once, he said, he’d seen one of his former employees on TV saying she thought it was her God-given duty to preserve and protect the unreleased material in his vault. “Now, that sounds like someone I should call the police on,” he told me. “How is that not racist?” People were always casting him—and all black artists—in a helpless role, he said, as if he were incapable of managing himself. “I still have to brush my own teeth,” he said.
Who said this? Please don't hurt me Bart.
I believe it was Susan Rogers.
That was my guess but wasn't sure.
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Reply #88 posted 09/04/19 10:44am
BartVanHemelen |
PURPLEIZED3121 said:
PeggyO said:
I believe it was Susan Rogers.
if anyone here is a parent...& a non parent tries to give you advice on your child...& you just want to fucking punch their inexperienced ass!
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Rogers is the one who started the vault, Prince was the irresponsible one who left master tapes in studios and elsewhere. But yeah, don't let the FACTS get in the way of your opinion. © Bart Van Hemelen
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