IstenSzek said:

dodger said:

IstenSzek said:

cellular memory


oh man i miss prince so much sometimes


i think i would have loved this book. it seems like he was ready to include everything and nothing
and a whole lot of weird stuff in there, going from bio to 'how to' to industry inside info to self help
to black history and empowerment and cellular memory/chemtrails/ancient egypt.

i would have loved that shit

makes me sad about what could have been and makes me realise how much i enjoyed following
prince and his topics of interest, even if i didn't always agree or believe. there was always a bit
of an interesting angle.

Yep. I had to laugh when he asked Dan if he'd been paid yet and when he asked about pulling the book if he wanted to

i mean, you just know that if prince was still around, chances are that book would have never
been completed, or if completed, never published etc etc.

there might be a few news items about a lawsuit

meanwhile he would have printed up bootleg copies of his book, selling them at paisley park
after dark parties

the man did whatever he felt like doing. people complain about that so much or they say he
was a nightmare to work with/for etc. i don't know. i think it's cool that he lived his life just
the way he wanted to. he was in a unique position. a one of a kind person, who deserved to
live his life however he saw fit.

IstenSzek said:

Strive said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Dan's article gave me a sense that Prince was excited and hopeful for the future...HIS future. I feel he was looking forward to completing his book and SEEING for himself where it went and what would happen NEXT.

I'm going to go cry again now, I'll be back later to finish my thoughts and discuss this further.

Honestly, it sounded the opposite to me. He sounded despondent until a new idea thrilled him. Then the thrill would fade from whatever that new idea was and he'd be back to despondent.

Like he could see everything, was paralyzed by possiblity and was just killing time to best of his ability with whatever was in front of him.

Compare 2014 Prince of "I am music. I never see myself stopping." to January 2016 Prince in that article says he's done with music and dreading the idea of picking up a guitar. It's a stark contrast.

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What he said in January 2016 was “I’m sick of playing the guitar, at least for now. I like the piano, but I hate the thought of picking up the guitar.” And as Dan explains, "What he really wanted to do was write."

My thinking is that was or would have only been temporary because as I recall he'd just had a new guitar commissioned and showed it off days before he died.

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PeggyO said:

wow, that's alot edits...

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Can't wait for it to come out, I'll probably stay up all night reading it.

I have been thinking about Prince's choice of "collaborators", ie., Dan P. The exerpt from the NYorker made it pretty clear that Prince was concerned about race and racism. He seemed to trust Dan, but I wonder if P considered a Black collaborator? Dan seems very articulate and sensitive but he won't have experienced being Black in America and Prince did suggest that White folks did not always "get"

him.

That's the title? How lame is that. Why not call it The Dance Electric or something?

Expect lots of JW preaching and weird ideas involving purple. He will talk about the genius of every song even the junk. lol

Bittersweet article

Reading along...it felt like he was still physically here and this was an interview promoting his upcoming memoir. Sadly towards the end it brought back to reality that this was Dan's recollection

I love that Purple Music was mentioned , but didn't he technically first played it live back in 2010?

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PeggyO said:

I have been thinking about Prince's choice of "collaborators", ie., Dan P. The exerpt from the NYorker made it pretty clear that Prince was concerned about race and racism. He seemed to trust Dan, but I wonder if P considered a Black collaborator? Dan seems very articulate and sensitive but he won't have experienced being Black in America and Prince did suggest that White folks did not always "get"

him.

I would imagine Prince did indeed consider a black collaborator.

How is Onlyinthe dealing with Prince dissing the Fountainhead like that though?

Can we retitle this thread please to reflect the latest interview. Out in social media world there is a lot of emotion, a lot of grief around this article & YET AGAIN a really valuable thread is lost. Come on 'MODS' stop self sabotaging & let this incredibly important interview be shared & discussed more openly. Thanks.

jaawwnn said:

PeggyO said:

I have been thinking about Prince's choice of "collaborators", ie., Dan P. The exerpt from the NYorker made it pretty clear that Prince was concerned about race and racism. He seemed to trust Dan, but I wonder if P considered a Black collaborator? Dan seems very articulate and sensitive but he won't have experienced being Black in America and Prince did suggest that White folks did not always "get"

him.

I would imagine Prince did indeed consider a black collaborator.

How is Onlyinthe dealing with Prince dissing the Fountainhead like that though?

But was he really dissing it? I didn´t interpret it that way. Rather, it sounded as if Dan was trying to tell Prince that HE did not like The Fountainhead but that Prince found the book at least interesting.

lwr001 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

what's the odds of this being cancelled?

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None. Absolutely zero. This is random house. There shit is in order

glad I was wrong, that new article hit the purple community very, very hard.

0uterageous said:

Bittersweet article

Reading along...it felt like he was still physically here and this was an interview promoting his upcoming memoir. Sadly towards the end it brought back to reality that this was Dan's recollection

I love that Purple Music was mentioned , but didn't he technically first played it live back in 2010?

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That´s correct but in 2010 it was just part of a medley.

And keep in mind that Prince probably just forgot that he played it before. When he played in Rotterdam and mentioned that they shot parts of the SOTT movie there he got the year mixed up,too.

No wonder after such an incredible number of songs and live shows.

KoolEaze said:

jaawwnn said:

I would imagine Prince did indeed consider a black collaborator.

How is Onlyinthe dealing with Prince dissing the Fountainhead like that though?

But was he really dissing it? I didn´t interpret it that way. Rather, it sounded as if Dan was trying to tell Prince that HE did not like The Fountainhead but that Prince found the book at least interesting.

Ah I do wonder what he would have said if the Dan said he liked it - "We have to dismantle ‘The Fountainhead’ brick by brick" is the quote though.

But yeah, sure Rand is interesting.

jaawwnn said:

jdcxc said:

jaawwnn said:

KoolEaze said:

But was he really dissing it? I didn´t interpret it that way. Rather, it sounded as if Dan was trying to tell Prince that HE did not like The Fountainhead but that Prince found the book at least interesting.

Ah I do wonder what he would have said if the Dan said he liked it - "We have to dismantle ‘The Fountainhead’ brick by brick" is the quote though.

But yeah, sure Rand is interesting.

I didn't get the sense Prince had strong feelings either way about Fountainhead, though he was a self-made man who may have aligned with some of Rand's ideology.

Dan's portrayal of Prince felt to me that he was kind of a 'stream of consciousness' thinker, alighting

on many ideas, kind of riffing.

jdcxc said:

jdcxc said:

*did Prince dis choose an esteemed and influential Black editor for the book...Chris Jackson (Ta-Nehisi Coates). https://www.nytimes.com/2...ement.html

Thanks for the link...compelling article.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Can we retitle this thread please to reflect the latest interview. Out in social media world there is a lot of emotion, a lot of grief around this article & YET AGAIN a really valuable thread is lost. Come on 'MODS' stop self sabotaging & let this incredibly important interview be shared & discussed more openly. Thanks.

.

This is a STICKY thread about the book, linked from the homepage. The New Yorker has published the intro of the book. Why should there be a separate thread about the intro?

.

But I have now updated its title to mention The New Yorker.

PeggyO said:

jaawwnn said:

Ah I do wonder what he would have said if the Dan said he liked it - "We have to dismantle ‘The Fountainhead’ brick by brick" is the quote though.

But yeah, sure Rand is interesting.

I didn't get the sense Prince had strong feelings either way about Fountainhead, though he was a self-made man who may have aligned with some of Rand's ideology.

Dan's portrayal of Prince felt to me that he was kind of a 'stream of consciousness' thinker, alighting

on many ideas, kind of riffing.

Prince was Howard Roark personified.

The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

To sell your soul is the easiest thing in the world. That's what everybody does every hour of his life. If I asked you to keep your sould – would you understand why that's much harder?

PeggyO said:

jaawwnn said:

Ah I do wonder what he would have said if the Dan said he liked it - "We have to dismantle ‘The Fountainhead’ brick by brick" is the quote though.

But yeah, sure Rand is interesting.

I didn't get the sense Prince had strong feelings either way about Fountainhead, though he was a self-made man who may have aligned with some of Rand's ideology.

Dan's portrayal of Prince felt to me that he was kind of a 'stream of consciousness' thinker, alighting

on many ideas, kind of riffing.

True that, i'd say that would be part of the reason he didn't like being recorded- he probably came out with all sorts of stuff as he was working it out in his head.

jaawwnn said:

PeggyO said:

I didn't get the sense Prince had strong feelings either way about Fountainhead, though he was a self-made man who may have aligned with some of Rand's ideology.

Dan's portrayal of Prince felt to me that he was kind of a 'stream of consciousness' thinker, alighting

on many ideas, kind of riffing.

True that, i'd say that would be part of the reason he didn't like being recorded- he probably came out with all sorts of stuff as he was working it out in his head.

Good insight.

Genesia said:

PeggyO said:

I didn't get the sense Prince had strong feelings either way about Fountainhead, though he was a self-made man who may have aligned with some of Rand's ideology.

Dan's portrayal of Prince felt to me that he was kind of a 'stream of consciousness' thinker, alighting

on many ideas, kind of riffing.

Prince was Howard Roark personified.

The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

To sell your soul is the easiest thing in the world. That's what everybody does every hour of his life. If I asked you to keep your sould – would you understand why that's much harder?

Good one.

BartVanHemelen said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Can we retitle this thread please to reflect the latest interview. Out in social media world there is a lot of emotion, a lot of grief around this article & YET AGAIN a really valuable thread is lost. Come on 'MODS' stop self sabotaging & let this incredibly important interview be shared & discussed more openly. Thanks.

.

This is a STICKY thread about the book, linked from the homepage. The New Yorker has published the intro of the book. Why should there be a separate thread about the intro?

.

But I have now updated its title to mention The New Yorker.

genuinley apreciated, the emotion out there is huge ...it took me aback at how upsettng I & many others found it. Thanks again.

"There was nothing false in the way he spoke to me, and nothing false in the way he spoke during his darkest moments. I can’t think less of him for hiding his pain. He was living on his own terms. To expect anything more of him would have been to expect magic. "

2freaky4church1 said:

"There was nothing false in the way he spoke to me, and nothing false in the way he spoke during his darkest moments. I can’t think less of him for hiding his pain. He was living on his own terms. To expect anything more of him would have been to expect magic. "

I don't think he was "hiding" anything. Do you talk about your pain with strangers? (If you do, please stop.)

highcalonic said:

BartVanHemelen said:

https://www.newyorker.com...-of-prince

Excellent read, thanks.